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| Wanna talk? Here some rules: | | Wanna talk? Here some rules: |
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| |1. Don't be mean | | |1. Don't be mean |
| |Being mean is forbidden. This is known as HIB. It means '''h'''arassment, '''i'''ntimidation, and '''b'''ullying.
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| |2. Tell me if I did something wrong | | |2. Tell me if I did something wrong |
| |You know I make many mistakes. If you know what I did was bad, tell me about it.
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| |3. No spam | | |3. No spam |
| |Absoultely forbidden. It makes it crude, unfunny, and harmful.
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| |Absoultely forbidden. It makes it crude, unfunny, and harmful.
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| |See [[MarioWiki:Vandalism]] for more info.
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| |I advise you to do that. Use <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki>, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, or <nowiki>~~~</nowiki>
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| |Unless it is spam or vandalism, do not remove comments. If it's spam or vandal, I will remove them (Anyone who is an admin and above is permitted to remove comments of spam or vandal)
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| |7. April Fools Prank Day | | |4. No vandalism, see [[https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Vandalism]] for more info. |
| |When it comes to April Fools (On April 1), we usually do. Yes? Be creative with your pranks on April Fools. However, it might not think about it all of the time. Pranking is only allowed on April 1.
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| |8. No personal info | | |5. Sign your name (I advise you to do that) |
| |Don't tell me your <b>extremely</b> <i>personal</i> <b><i>info</b></i>. It is not important to me to your personal stuff.
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| |9. Friend requests | | |6. No bullying |
| |I don't really allow friend requests unless you give me your permission first.
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| |It is a common rule that many people make as a rule on their talk page
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| |10. Have your best English | | |7. Threats are not allowed and I will keep threats out |
| |Do your best English (I accept all English). However, I use American English. This won't mean I'll correct your English, the English differences won't matter in this talk page.
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| |<b><i><big>The last but not last</b></i></big>. Have fun
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| @Alex95 Thanks for the point. | | @Alex95 Thanks for the point. |
| @Toadette the Achiever Your welcome! | | @Toadette the Achiver Your welcome! |
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| Oh, I used Grammarly, sorry if Grammarly is not the experience. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 07:13, October 19, 2020 (EDT) | | Oh, I used Grammarly, sorry if Grammarly is not the experience. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 07:13, October 19, 2020 (EDT) |
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| == Unlucky Space ==
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| When you get a chance, could you take another look at the Unlucky Space proposal? Your current vote doesn't have anything to do with the scope of the proposal. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 18:13, October 25, 2020 (EDT)
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| :Oh sorry, I'll be right back to it. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 18:17, October 27, 2020 (EDT)
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| == RE:Reverse Space ==
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| But do they actually function differently from the ''Mario Party 9''/''10'' Back Spaces? If not, then they should remain in the future {{fake link|Back Space (random)}} article, as subject names can and do change over time. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 21:04, October 28, 2020 (EDT)
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| : Thanks so much for your explaining. This is just my idea. You can have a different reason. =) [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 07:18, October 29, 2020 (EDT)
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| == Ashley & Red Proposal ==
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| Hey man, so I'm no administrator or anything, but I just wanted to mention you shouldn't call someone else's proposal stupid. I saw your vote and it came across as a bit harsh to say the proposal was "stupid, dumb and should not happen". I'm just suggesting you remove those comments; I've seen others get in trouble before for that kinda behavior and I just wanna help out in this case. Thanks for your time. {{User:Tails777/sig}}22:04, October 31, 2020 (EDT)
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| :Oh sorry, I didn't like that proposal at all, thanks for correcting me. Did someone edit my comment? [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 06:38, November 1, 2020 (EST)
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| ::Looks much better. Thanks. {{User:Tails777/sig}}09:02, November 1, 2020 (EST)
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| :::Thanks, Tails777 =) [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 10:16, November 1, 2020 (EST)
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| == No quorum ==
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| The proposal ended in a no quorum due to rule 8, so your edits will have to be reverted. {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 14:50, November 7, 2020 (EST)
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| :DarkNight that makes no sense. Can you make it more clear? [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 14:51, November 7, 2020 (EST)
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| ::Rule 8 states: ''Any proposal that has three votes or less at deadline will automatically be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.'' The proposal had 3 votes. {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 14:54, November 7, 2020 (EST)
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| :::Oh thanks, DarkNight. I'll remember next time. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 14:55, November 7, 2020 (EST)
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| ==Settled proposal handling==
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| Somewhat building on DarkNight's message above, I wanted to bring up a few things about how you handled those proposals today. As you already know, the Back Space proposal should have been marked as no quorum, but also, you shouldn't always just plough ahead and enact the proposal by yourself- it's polite to at least check with the proposer first, as often they will have their own plan for getting it done. Also the second proposal that passed the deadline did not need to be ended, but rather extended- no one option had a strong majority, and hence the proposal required a third and final extension of a week. Also, any completed proposals need to be archived, rather than just adjusting the proposal. I'd recommend that you take some time to familiarise yourself with the rules on the proposals page before you make any changes like this in the future- both of these are relatively uncommon cases, but the rules do give clear guidance on what to do, and it's a good idea to get into the process of archiving any proposals that you end. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 17:58, November 7, 2020 (EST)
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| :Thanks for info. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 18:46, November 7, 2020 (EST)
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| == Back Space ==
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| I restarted the [[Talk:Back Space#Split out the two variants of Back Space and split Advance Space from Dash Space, take two|Back Space proposal]] since it ended in a no quorum. Feel free to recast your vote.
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| Also, regarding your earlier question about the Wings proposal, that's largely due to the wiki's rules about dealing with proposals ending with inadequate consensus. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 23:41, November 7, 2020 (EST)
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| :Thanks [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 14:13, November 9, 2020 (EST)
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| == Moving pages ==
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| When moving pages and files, make sure to change any links leading to the old name to the new name. You can find them by clicking the "What links here" on the toolbar on the left when viewing the original name's article. Changing the namespace search to Templates will allow you to get rid of most links, and then when the cache clears, you can do the rest. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 14:35, November 19, 2020 (EST)
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| :Thanks, Alex95. I like that. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 19:40, November 22, 2020 (EST)
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| == Reverse Space ==
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| You're thinking of a different discussion entirely, one that had nothing to do with [[Reverse Space]]. As for the discussion that actually talked about the Reverse Space, all I said was that I'm not sure if they're different from the ''Mario Party 9'' variant of Back Space; I never actually agreed to the split.
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| That said, upon observing how Reverse Spaces work in ''Mario Party 3'' (EDIT: specifically in Backtrack), yes, now I do agree that they deserve their own article. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 13:52, November 24, 2020 (EST)
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| :Oh, thanks for explaining. That makes much more sense. I asking a reasonable person for help to swap page titles. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 13:59, November 24, 2020 (EST)
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| ::Okay. Though as a more effective approach, you can also email the admins at mwikisysops@gmail.com (even though I did so already). {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 14:06, November 24, 2020 (EST)
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| ::: Oh yeah, that's true. I asked [[User: Mario jc|Mario jc]]. When did you email the admins? I emailed Mario jc at 2:03 pm. Otherwise, thanks for emailing the admins. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 14:14, November 24, 2020 (EST)
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| This split was not proposed. Make sure you're also ''italicising'' game titles ([[Mario Party 3]] should be formatted as ''[[Mario Party 3]]''). {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 19:49, November 24, 2020 (EST)
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| : Mario jc thanks for helping with that info for italicizing. However (I'm going to be <b>bold and brave</b>), Mario jc, I don't know why you said that there was no proposal. Per [[Talk: Back Space#Split out the two variants of Back Space and split Advance Space from Dash Space, take two|number two]] (proposed by Archivist Toadette), it was decided to have a split. Please look at proposal 2 before merging back info again. Anyway, there were two proposals, the first was not enough voters (3 votes), and the second was a split (6 votes). As I said, please look on the talk page for proposal splits before you merging info back. <s>I feel like this proposal isn't powerful after a split is true when people say now we can't split.</s> [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 08:44, November 25, 2020 (EST)
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| ::You'll have to do another proposal to split them out; as Mario jc said, I never explicitly covered the Backtrack Reverse Spaces in my previous proposal. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 09:18, November 25, 2020 (EST)
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| ::: Oh, precisely. I'll reverse what I said to Mario jc. Thanks. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 09:26, November 25, 2020 (EST)
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| [[Special:Diff/3076286|You still forgot to format titles]]. Read [[MarioWiki:Manual of Style#Italicizing titles]]. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:11, November 28, 2020 (EST)
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| :Thanks. Mario jc, I think you are one of the most secure people on this wiki. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 07:15, November 29, 2020 (EST)
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| Thanks! I just got promoted yesterday, actually. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 18:53, November 25, 2020 (EST)
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| : I see per profile. You're a great person. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 18:54, November 25, 2020 (EST)
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| ==YouTube sources==
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| YouTube videos can be pretty reliable sources, actually, you just have to check them. The source I've reverted links to a speedrun, which backs up the claim of the shortest route in New Super Mario Bros. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 19:05, November 25, 2020 (EST)
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| :Wikipedia names them as unreliable. Please give me the link to see if YouTube is a relieable source. Thanks. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 08:07, November 26, 2020 (EST)
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| ::Wikipedia has different criteria for citation for MarioWiki: they forbid original research and want academic sources or news articles. On the other hand, this wiki is written entirely with the foundation of original research, and thus, YouTube videos are acceptable sources here. [[MarioWiki:Citations|Our citation]] policy allows YouTube videos to be cited. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 14:22, November 26, 2020 (EST)
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| :::Also, by the way, [[Wikipedia:Video links|Wikipedia does allow YouTube links]] but they are held to scrutiny, just like I did here. If you want to see if a video is properly sourced, you have to watch it yourself. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 14:26, November 26, 2020 (EST)
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| ::::Of course Ray Trace, I hope you helped me here with that guide [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 14:51, November 26, 2020 (EST)
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| :::::You're welcome. I think the only source we unilaterally disallow is [[MarioWiki:Reception and sales|VGChartz for sales data]], but everything should be explained to you in MarioWiki:Citation. If you have any further questions on whether a source is good or not, you should ask around. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 14:57, November 26, 2020 (EST)
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| ::::::With all your hope, please contact me on my talk page for any further talking about this. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 07:00, November 28, 2020 (EST)
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| For one, the edit itself wasn't vandalism. Just a little weird. The odd aspect of it was removed and implemented properly, so there's nothing wrong with the Appearance section. Now, it could probably be incorporated into the opening paragraph, as I think there isn't much to the appearance, but the information itself isn't vandalism. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 15:50, November 30, 2020 (EST)
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| : Thanks Alex95. The user who started the appearance section was vandalism, and I thought the whole section was vandalism. However, you caught me there by saying a person reduces the vandal in that section. You caught me on this one. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 15:57, November 30, 2020 (EST)
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| ::I would just like to add that I think an appearance section could still be worthwhile. There's more that can be said about it, such as how its head colours are different from Dino Piranha's, its feet, its curly red tail bob thingy when you break open its shell, potentially even the egg's design itself. However, it's fine for now, and it won't be necessary to add the appearance section until I or someone add this extra information. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 18:08, November 30, 2020 (EST)
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| :::MarioComix thanks for informing that. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 18:14, November 30, 2020 (EST)
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| The IP was probably a vandal. {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 22:28, December 1, 2020 (EST)
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| :They were not. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:49, December 1, 2020 (EST)
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| ::From "Boos" to "The Big Boo" it was not vandal, but saying "uhhhhhh" might be foolish to me. I agree with Alex95. Thank you both DarkNight and Alex95 for your coming to talk. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 08:48, December 2, 2020 (EST)
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| :::As I said on Darknight's talk page, "The Big Boo" is what Boos were referred to in Super Mario RPG, because of weird translations. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
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| ::::Then we should respect the annoymouse user's "The Big Boo" words. It's just fine. Can every agree here? [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 08:55, December 2, 2020 (EST)
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| :::::We should probably discuss this on Li'l Boo's talk page before advancing with it. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}}
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| ::::::Of course. That works as well. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 08:58, December 2, 2020 (EST)
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| == A few things about your edits ==
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| I've noticed a lot of problems with your edits, and I want to go over some and expand on why they are a problem. I also would like you to reread the messages you have here on your talk page.
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| *First of all, you seem to be very misunderstanding how proposals work. I explained some things [[Talk:PictoChat#Comments|here]], but even with that, you still did not expand on the proposal properly. Similar case [[Talk:Lucky_Space#Split_Mario_Party_8_into_its_own_article|here]] and your comment at the bottom [[Talk:Wing_Cap#Comments|here]] tell me you really need to give [[MarioWiki:Proposals]] a proper reading before you do anything further with proposals.
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| *You cannot tell people to not remove your edits, as you did [[Special:Diff/3050306|here]] and [[Special:Diff/3055502|here]]. Doing so defeats the very purpose of the wiki. You do not have the authority to keep edits as they are.
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| *Related to that, if [[Special:Diff/3077924|an admin says something should stay]], you talk to them instead of undoing it yourself. This is undermining admin authority.
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| *In regards to vandalism efforts, while I'm glad you're trying to help, you are having some missteps in how to handle it. A comment like [[Special:Diff/3076217|this]] does nothing, vandals will not care. The hidden comments are usually meant to provide notes to actual editors. [[Special:Diff/3080526|This is not vandalism]] (and the edit is another instance of ignoring admin authority), and [[User talk:104.194.220.20|trying to convey with vandals]] doesn't really work, either. Just revert and let an admin know, either by their talk page or through [[MarioWiki:Staff noticeboard]]. You should also give [[MarioWiki:Vandalism]] a read, it will explain more on what to look for.
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| *[[User_talk:5.173.24.213|Grammarly does not help]] because it can't make the distinction between fiction and reality and will sometimes even conflict with [[MarioWiki:Manual of Style|our Manual of Style]].
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| I notice you have a hard time explaining yourself, but I can't tell if you're even making an effort to improve on it. Please ask for help if you aren't sure what to do, and don't start things if you're not sure how to do them. I'm not saying you should stop editing altogether, and I understand there are a lot of things to keep in mind, but there's a lot of improvement that needs to happen on your part.
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| Thanks for reading, and keep editing. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:25, December 6, 2020 (EST)
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| : Thanks. Please try to help in all of my future so that I can strive. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 17:03, December 6, 2020 (EST)
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| ::I know that Alex already low-key mentioned this when dealing with a user I blocked, but you need to stop [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:47.187.196.82&diff=3082732&oldid=3082722 inserting yourself in situations where another user is getting reprimanded.] It violates our [[MarioWiki:Courtesy|courtesy]] policy. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 15:00, December 8, 2020 (EST)
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| :::Oh sorry. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 15:02, December 8, 2020 (EST)
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| Can I ask how you got the gameplay information? {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:29, December 10, 2020 (EST)
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| : Hi. Did I get something wrong? I do not know if any websites list them. Thanks so much for asking. If anyone has the actual gameplay, then that is helpful. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 14:08, December 11, 2020 (EST)
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| ::He is asking where you got the gameplay information, not if it was wrong. {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 14:12, December 11, 2020 (EST)
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| ::: Thanks DarkNight. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 14:13, December 11, 2020 (EST)
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| ::::That didn't answer anything... {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:05, December 11, 2020 (EST)
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| ::::: Alex95 I was asking for help on the gameplay. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 16:23, December 11, 2020 (EST)
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| ::::::Please answer the question. Where did you get gameplay information from? {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 18:47, December 11, 2020 (EST)
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| Admins have decided to delete the article because judging by your first response, it's led us to believe that you simply wrote the gameplay information based on the picture. If that's the case, please don't do this again; you should base your information on actual gameplay footage. It's also been nearly a week and we haven't received a response to my last question even after you responded to Alex's post below which was posted later. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:48, December 16, 2020 (EST)
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| == Proposals ==
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| Letting you know [[Talk:PictoChat#Proposal_about_removing_mentions_about_PictoChat_service|the PictoChat proposal]] has been canceled per admin input. Since this is your second proposal to be canceled, after [[Talk:Castle_(WarioWare,_Inc.:_Mega_Microgame$!)#Take_Two:_Merge_Castle_(WarioWare,_Inc.:_Mega_Microgame$!)_with_Diamond_Dojo_and_Diamond_City_Castle|the one on Castle (''WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!'')]], I feel like I should give you some advice on how to manage them.
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| *Don't rush into things. Regarding the Castle page, you made a proposal when the proposed action from the previous proposal could already be enacted. For PictoChat, the conversation before it didn't finish and there didn't seem to be any real need for a proposal.
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| {{User:Alex95/sig}} 21:34, December 11, 2020 (EST)
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| :Oh, sorry. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 09:29, December 12, 2020 (EST)
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