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| [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Mario_Kart:_Double_Dash!!&curid=1708&diff=2781121&oldid=2779980 This] is not how it works, otherwise Trivia sections would span three times the length of the rest of the page with random nonsense that only looks even vaguely similar if you cross your eyes and squint. Keep this up and you'll be blocked, if you won't already. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:07, October 14, 2019 (EDT) | | [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Mario_Kart:_Double_Dash!!&curid=1708&diff=2781121&oldid=2779980 This] is not how it works, otherwise Trivia sections would span three times the length of the rest of the page with random nonsense that only looks even vaguely similar if you cross your eyes and squint. Keep this up and you'll be blocked, if you won't already. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:07, October 14, 2019 (EDT) |
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| Look, Doc von Schmeltwick. If trivia sections were spanning three times the length of the rest of the page, then it wouldn't be a bad thing, because they could just be a separate page that is linked by the main page. But unfortunately, I don't believe trivia sections would ever be that long under current circumstances. But since you like to mock the intelligence of people such as me by claiming that they squint, why don't you allow trivia to exist in order to encourage thoughtfulness? Or maybe you don't have a problem with people such as me being dumb but you not being smart enough instead.
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| :There's a difference between "thoughtfulness" and "[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BatDeduction Bat Deduction]," of which what you are doing is firmly in the latter. What you're saying is taking all sorts of unrelated things and acting like there are links where there isn't. Additionally, I cannot stress this enough, trivia is a '''''bad''''' thing to have a large section for. And stop spamming it on every tenuously related page you can, it's not helping your case. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:47, October 14, 2019 (EDT)
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| And what exactly is helping my case? Comparing me to Batman? Why don't you keep doing your job and stop messing with mine? Maybe Bat Deduction is you not feeling smart enough when edits such as mine are better than yours and that's what gives you the impression that my intelligence is unnatural as a genius comic book character's only because of your desire to silence other people with different viewpoints. And by the way, Wonder Woman and John Cena references were my idea but the Batmobile is linked on the Wario Car page, even if it did not just inspire Mario Kart vehicles but a majority of sci-fi cars since it was one of the first to exist.
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| :Get off your high horse. You act like I'm the only one who thinks your edits are ridiculous, when that is not the case at all. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:01, October 14, 2019 (EDT)
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| Of course you aren't the only one. There are many wiki pages requesting a major cleanup and expansion but you're still having a problem with me while there are more important things to worry about. Blaming people like me for vandalism over a minor edit is the only way for mods to pretend that they are doing their job while they are much beneath where they're supposed to be.
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| :Lol give me an example of a wiki you ''think'' is well-run in that case. Be glad you can edit as an anon ''at all''. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]])
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| Just to clarify that Doc's not the only one taking issue with your edits:
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| #John Cena became popular way after Wario was created.
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| #[[MarioWiki:Trivia|There's an official policy against adding copious Trivia]].
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| #The tidbits you're adding are ridiculously long stretches. Since when was Wonder Woman inspired by Wario?
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| {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 16:20, October 14, 2019 (EDT)
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| Well, John Cena indeed became popular way after Wario was created, just like Wario was created decades after both Wonder Woman and the Batmobile. Ask John Cena himself about his attire being inspired by Wario. And DC could sue Wario for stealing Wonder Woman's logo. Her publishers didn't do that but why don't you give me a single example of any other major publication using Wario's "W" logo before him apart from Wonder Woman? But I admit that WWE's logo was different and only it's recent version had a "W" similar to Wario's and Wonder Woman's. And wikis cannot be well-run since they are not organised properly but at least we can try our best.
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| :You realize that w is a generic letter of the alphabet, no one owns it. The logos are stylized differently. Book's don't get sued due to using letters. Again, color doesn't mean insparation. Otherwise every single usage of the color blue would be a reference to Sonic. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 16:59, October 14, 2019 (EDT)
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| I'm going to have to disagree with Doc and the others on one thing - this isn't a "Bat Deduction" so much as it is "[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WildMassGuessing Wild Mass Guessing] extrapolated from 'facts' on the level of [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/PeopleSitOnChairs 'people sit on chairs'] at best".
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| Otherwise, they're pretty much spot on. Not only is the base assertion ridiculous in itself, but the notion that we can't contest it because we somehow can't peek into the developers' minds to be 100% sure it's 100% wrong is complete and utter nonsense, not least because it ignores the fact that ''the person who makes such an assertion must bear its burden of proof''. Not only is it not our job to prove your "argument" for you, but in no way is it required that we jump through such hoops when we can arrive at the same conclusion by actually scrutinizing the claim for more than five seconds. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 17:16, October 14, 2019 (EDT)
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| People sitting on chairs is something that regularly happened way before memes ever existed. But Wonder Woman's and Wario's "W" logo would seem a big lame and generic if not for the superheroine being as much of a woman as she is a wonder and Wario being Mario's opposite. And WWE used that logo because of a lawsuit with WWF.
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| :OK, I was going to not respond anymore, but now you're just saying random stuff that has ''nothing to do'' with the topic at hand. How the ''hell'' does Wonder Woman living up to her name in ''any way'' relate to Wario? Short answer: it doesn't. Please just drop it, it's a waste of everybody's time. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:29, October 14, 2019 (EDT)
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| ::Yes, all of those are things that happened, and none of them have any significance in relation to each other beyond the use of one letter. Which goes back to my point - sometimes people just sit on chairs, and sometimes logos just use the same alphabetical letter. The lawsuit between two wrestling companies is meaningless in this context since neither of them have any realistic influence on Wario-Man or his design, and the same is true for Wonder Woman (no, "they're both superheroes" does not hold water). Just because some arbitrary meaning ''can'' be extrapolated from a picked-at-random set of facts does not mean that any theory formed from it is inherently merited or notable. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 17:33, October 14, 2019 (EDT)
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| Minor correction: WWE was known as WWF when it had competition against WCW. WWF is an environmental organization.
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| :Cool beans, point still stands. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 17:38, October 14, 2019 (EDT)
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| You are overthinking things and grasping at references that aren't there. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:52, October 14, 2019 (EDT)
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