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I was more thinking along the lines of "short guy with oversized melee weapon" there; while Koshas are sometimes fairly large, their bodies are still really squat and short-limbed, giving off the impression of being short, and as such it seems more likely to be an intentional non-piratical successor to Kutlass than a coincidence. As for the Kopters, the unused sprites still illustrate their design history, which is what determines how they are inspired by pre-existing entities; in their case, their pose and animation is a dead-ringer for the original Kutlass with helicopter blades replacing the cutlasses, so it seems safe to say (in my opinion) that they are creation-wise as close as, for instance, Krusha, Kruncha, and Krumple or Kannon and Bazuka. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:25, October 14, 2023 (EDT)
I was more thinking along the lines of "short guy with oversized melee weapon" there; while Koshas are sometimes fairly large, their bodies are still really squat and short-limbed, giving off the impression of being short, and as such it seems more likely to be an intentional non-piratical successor to Kutlass than a coincidence. As for the Kopters, the unused sprites still illustrate their design history, which is what determines how they are inspired by pre-existing entities; in their case, their pose and animation is a dead-ringer for the original Kutlass with helicopter blades replacing the cutlasses, so it seems safe to say (in my opinion) that they are creation-wise as close as, for instance, Krusha, Kruncha, and Krumple or Kannon and Bazuka. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:25, October 14, 2023 (EDT)
:Unused sprites illustrate design history, but are not necessarily representative of the final product. Unused ''TTYD'' sprites heavily imply that [[Smorg]]s were supposed to look like [[Screamy]]. That doesn't mean we should claim in his infobox that he is connected to them, since he clearly has no relation to them at all in the final game. Also, while the Kopter's unused idle stance is similar to Kutlass, there's no indication that he would have behaved like Kutlass in any way. Kutlass may have been used as a base for that sprite purely for convenience and not necessarily because Rare intended the two enemies to be related to one another. As for Kosha, "short guy with oversized melee weapon" is not a very strong connection in and of itself. The two enemies simply do not physically resemble each other outside of that very superficial similarity. The way they both get their weapons stuck in the ground is definitely notable, and I'm not saying that's a coincidence, but that's the only similarity they have.
:Unused sprites illustrate design history, but are not necessarily representative of the final product. Unused ''TTYD'' sprites heavily imply that [[Smorg]]s were supposed to look like [[Screamy]]. That doesn't mean we should claim in his infobox that he is connected them, since he clearly has no relation to them at all in the final game. Also, while the Kopter's unused idle stance is similar to Kutlass, there's no indication that he would have behaved like Kutlass in any way. Kutlass may have been used as a base for that sprite purely for convenience and not necessarily because Rare intended the two enemies to be related to one another. As for Kosha, "short guy with oversized melee weapon" is not a very strong connection in and of itself. The two enemies simply do not physically resemble each other outside of that very superficial similarity. The way they both get their weapons stuck in the ground is definitely notable, and I'm not saying that's a coincidence, but that's the only similarity they have.


:However, more than anything, I just ''really'' don't like the "subject_origin" parameter being used this way. [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Species_infobox&diff=prev&oldid=3968459 The intention was to use it for ''real-world species''], not as a wishy-washy middle ground between "variant_of" and "comparable." Let's just not do that so we can prevent tiresome debates regarding "creator's intent." {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 14:55, October 15, 2023 (EDT)
:However, more than anything, I just ''really'' don't like the "subject_origin" parameter being used this way. [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Species_infobox&diff=prev&oldid=3968459 The intention was to use it for ''real-world species''], not as a wishy-washy middle ground between "variant_of" and "comparable." Let's just not do that so we can prevent tiresome debates regarding "creator's intent." {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 14:55, October 15, 2023 (EDT)

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