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== Organize lists by first name ==
== Organize lists by first name ==


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Considering that our categories sort them by their first name, and the fact that users would likely look for people by their first name since that's the first thing they see in the title (it's certainly what I always do) and every other template is organized by first name, wouldn't it make more sense to organize them by their first name? {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 14:45, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
Considering that our categories sort them by their first name, and the fact that users would likely look for people by their first name since that's the first thing they see in the title (it's certainly what I always do) and every other template is organized by first name, wouldn't it make more sense to organize them by their first name? {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 14:45, 3 July 2017 (EDT)


==Fictional/real characters==
==Fictional/real characters==
Now that I've already made a handful of articles based on historical figures, it'd be best to bring it up here. People like [[Plato]] and [[Thomas Jefferson]] and [[Louis Pasteur]] are, obviously, real people, and they're appearing as themselves, so it'd be technically valid to add them here. At the same time, adding them to this template would be dumb, least of all because nobody is using this template for fictionalized versions of historical figures. Still, we have several people listed here that appeared in ''The Super Mario Bros. Super Show'' as characters, including [[Brian Bonsall]], [[David Horowitz]], [[Nicole Eggert]], [[Ernie Hudson]], and others. We've even included fictional characters from other properties played by their original actors, like [[Sgt. Slaughter]] and [[Elvira]]. Should all of these people be listed here? And for a real doozy: what about [[Andrew Iverson]], [[Dave Grenewetzki]], [[Jeff Griffeath]], and [[Don Lloyd]], all of whom are developers of ''Mario's Time Machine'' and also appear as fictionalized versions of themselves within the game (and frankly, any information on them beyond what's in the game is sparse). Should they be listed here? {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:41, 2 August 2017 (EDT)
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Now that I've already made a handful of articles based on historical figures, it'd be best to bring it up here. People like [[Plato]] and [[Thomas Jefferson]] and [[Louis Pasteur]] are, obviously, real people, and they're appearing as themselves, so it'd be technically valid to add them here. At the same time, adding them to this template would be dumb, least of all because nobody is using this template for fictionalized versions of historical figures. Still, we have several people listed here that appeared in ''The Super Mario Bros. Super Show'' as characters, including [[Brian Bonsall]], [[David Horowitz]], [[Nicole Eggert]], [[Ernie Hudson]], and others. We've even included fictional characters from other properties played by their original actors, like [[Sgt. Slaughter]] and [[Elvira]]. Should all of these people be listed here? And for a real doozy: what about [[Andrew Heyward]], [[Dave Grenewetzki]], [[Jeff Griffeath]], and [[Don Lloyd]], all of whom are developers of ''Mario's Time Machine'' and also appear as fictionalized versions of themselves within the game (and frankly, any information on them beyond what's in the game is sparse). Should they be listed here? {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:41, 2 August 2017 (EDT)




It might be worth splitting the template to distinguish betwen "production crew" and "real persons who appear as a character in Mario medias". --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 19:43, 2 August 2017 (EDT)
It might be worth splitting the template to distinguish betwen "production crew" and "real persons who appear as a character in Mario medias". --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 19:43, 2 August 2017 (EDT)
:I'd find it weird to list [[Jason Bateman]] alongside [[Joan of Arc]]. I do like your idea, but at the same time, I can't help but think that there's some sort of difference between an actor who makes a live and physical appearance as "themselves" and a famous historical figure that only appears as ones and zeroes. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 20:23, 2 August 2017 (EDT)
:Actually, another thing: what about [[George Washington]]? He doesn't have an article (yet), but he makes an appearance in the live-action episode "[[George Washington Slept Here]]" and, though he's a part of a dream, he's meant to be the historical figure for all intents and purposes. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 20:24, 2 August 2017 (EDT)
::How I've understood it is {{tem|people}} is used for real people and {{tem|human}} is used for fictional ones. So, considering their roles in ''[[Mario's Time Machine]]'', perhaps they could be placed in both? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 20:27, 2 August 2017 (EDT)
:::That's what we're currently doing for the SMBSS characters, so it wouldn't be out of the question to also do the same for the MTM characters, but then we return to the beginning issue. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 20:38, 2 August 2017 (EDT)
:::Let's just throw [[Andrew Trego]] on the pile as well. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 13:33, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

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