Editing Template talk:Construction

'''Deadline''': March 5, 2012, 23:59 GMT

#{{User|YoshiKong}} Per my proposal

#{{User|Zero777}} I don't really care what the proposal say, but I do enjoy that gif on the construction template.

#{{User|BoygeyMario}} It's a good way of saying an article's under construction.

#{{User|BabyLuigiOnFire}} IMO, I don't really like the GIF. I wouldn't mind if it was a static image, but the GIF is certainly distracting. It also screws up the text in lower resolution computers if the text exceeds to two lines which really bothers me. I have to agree with the administrators that it was an "unnecessary" change and it looks better without the gif.

#{{User|Mario4Ever}} It is an unnecessary image that makes the template look unprofessional. Its removal was a joint decision.

#{{User|Fawfulfury65}} It's pretty unnecessary and distracting. It didn't look very good either.

Since the proposal was reworded, I slashed out the part of my vote that concerned that aspect of the proposal. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 09:49, 21 February 2012 (EST)

:Awesome! {{User|YoshiKong}}

'''Deadline''': <s>January 25, 2015, 23:59 GMT</s> '''Extended''': February 1, 2015, 23:59 GMT

#{{User|Andymii}} The image looks great aesthetically, and is not distracting in any way. The Pickaxe also fits the theme of this template. The contraction also deserves to be removed, due to this being an encyclopedia, which requires formal speech. Also, to those who say adding an image is superfluous, I believe a little creativity and style is beneficial for notice templates like these. Just because these templates will be removed soon does not mean they have to look boring. Adding bright images is one way to brighten up these templates. Images make templates instantly recognizable as well; without reading, the moment a person sees the Pickaxe, the reader will know that the page needs construction. It may sound funny, but we are actually ''simplifying'' the template by adding a picture to it. There is a reason that literally all the other wikis do it; they must be doing ''something'' right, otherwise images would have been long gone. We should be no different than them and add some images to our templates, starting with this one.

#{{User|Megamario15}} Per Andymii.

#{{User|Stonehill}} Yes, I see what Walkazo wrote, but we can also make TPPs on the other notice templates after choosing the side image that ''best'' suits one template in particular.

#{{User|Aokage}} I don't like it.

#{{User|Walkazo}} - The image is unnecessary and inconsistent with most other notice templates ({{tem|Image}} and {{tem|more images}}, {{tem|Empty}}, {{tem|notes}}, the {{tem|rewrite}} family including {{tem|Tense}}, etc.). {{tem|stub}} works differently (i.e. it's white and goes at the bottom) so it's not fully comparable, and frankly I'd be fine with removing the ill-formatted image from {{tem|delete}} (and maybe recolouring it red or something as a different way to stand out) if the alternative is superfluous images added everywhere else ([[Template_talk:Empty#Add_an_image_to_the_template|like here - inspired by ''this'' TPP]]). As I said in the last proposal, notice templates are tools, not banners: they're not supposed to be fun, they're supposed to be removed as soon as possible. Other wikis may do it, but I still think the templates look better without images, especially when viewed on wider screens, and the fact that not one design manages to look presentable for the various resolutions is all the more reason to keep the template simple and clean for everyone.

#{{User|Vommack}} Per all.

I'm pretty neutral on this, I want an image for this template, but I don't want it a Rocky Wrench. {{User:Boo4761/sig}}

:Is there a specific image you'd like to have? [[User:Megamario15|Megamario15 - The REAL Mario]] ([[User talk:Megamario15|talk]]) 19:16, 11 January 2015 (EST)

'''Deadline''': November 14, 2015, 23:59 GMT

#{{User|Andymii}} Per my reasoning above.

#{{User|The Pyro Guy}} Per Andymii.

#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} I do not support setting an improvement tag to auto-expire. In those 400+ pages with {{tem|construction}}, some need the template, and the ~200 pages that will lack them won't remove the problem. It's better to have a complete page with the tag than an incomplete page without the tag, too, since it's easier to deal with. I understand that {{tem|construction}} is ideally a temporary tag, but the reality is that it can stick indefinitely without being resolved, so auto-expire is the wrong route to take. If you hate construction templates sticking around, you can set up a collab or any organized and dedicated projects; there were wiki projects that focused on de-stubifying articles. What I recommended is a reiteration of what Walkazo said (which I wrote this before I recalled her comment). Ultimately, I see no worthwhile benefits from this feature.

#{{User|Roy Koopa}} Per BM.

#{{User|Boo4761}} Well what if 3 months passes and it's still in need of being under construction? We don't need a limit on it. Per all.

To be clear, there isn't actually a feasible way to make the template expire automatically, and really, it wouldn't be unreasonable to just go and organizing a Wiki Collab to replace stale construction templates with <nowiki>{{rewrite-expand}} even without a proposal. A hard cutoff isn't even that necessary, and the "absolutely no one edits" could actually be a hindrance to getting rid of egregious {{Construction}} templates, since incidental edits could easily happen even after the dedicated construction has long petered off. I generally feel that {{Construction}} is good for pages that have lots of empty sections or partial templates or whatever, and look like absolute shit in general as a result, but once they get some meat on the bones, even if many of the sections are small with further expansion still trickling in gradually, it would just be better to replace it with {{rewrite-expand}}</nowiki>. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 20:07, 31 October 2015 (EDT)