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| == Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia issue == | | == Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia issue == |
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| {{Proposal outcome|passed|9-0|Adjust the wording on Template:Conjecture and Template:Another language}}
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| A discussion in Discord with Camwood777 about [[Pattan]]'s name in the [[Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia]] had me double-check the page, and I noticed something we should ''probably'' clarify in this template. As it is now, it reads "If an official name appears, it is requested that the article should be moved to the correct name." Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros. is, for all intents and purposes, an official source of information; it's just not one we recognize due to the heavily "borrowed" content it uses from us. | | A discussion in Discord with Camwood777 about [[Pattan]]'s name in the [[Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia]] had me double-check the page, and I noticed something we should ''probably'' clarify in this template. As it is now, it reads "If an official name appears, it is requested that the article should be moved to the correct name." Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros. is, for all intents and purposes, an official source of information; it's just not one we recognize due to the heavily "borrowed" content it uses from us. |
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| #{{User|Power Flotzo}} I'm all for this clarification. Per all. | | #{{User|Power Flotzo}} I'm all for this clarification. Per all. |
| #{{User|FanOfYoshi}} For those who come here just to change something in the text, like what has been done previously on this page. | | #{{User|FanOfYoshi}} For those who come here just to change something in the text, like what has been done previously on this page. |
| #{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per all.
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| #{{User|BBQ Turtle}} Per all.
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| #{{User|Yoshi the SSM}} Per all.
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| #{{User|Mister Wu}} I wonder if "that is not from a source that borrows English names from this wiki" in place of "that is not from the English Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia" is more future-proof, but at the moment this will surely do the job.
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| *Mario Zone (24): Fiery Blocks, Mario the Circus Star!, Beware: Jagged Spikes, Final Bosses: Three Mean Pigs!. | | *Mario Zone (24): Fiery Blocks, Mario the Circus Star!, Beware: Jagged Spikes, Final Bosses: Three Mean Pigs!. |
| ::And that's it: secret courses are unmentioned and the Turtle Zone, Pumpkin Zone, Space Zone, and final level are briefly mentioned on page 25, so that still leaves the question of the remaining names. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:11, December 15, 2019 (EST) | | ::And that's it: secret courses are unmentioned and the Turtle Zone, Pumpkin Zone, Space Zone, and final level are briefly mentioned on page 25, so that still leaves the question of the remaining names. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:11, December 15, 2019 (EST) |
| :::Well, even if we don't use the SMBE, the Japanese names of the official guide work. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:55, December 15, 2019 (EST)
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| ::::Yeah, there are too much errors, i think making a counterproposal won't work (and i don't support it by now). --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 08:31, December 16, 2019 (EST)
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| :::::Definitely not borrowed, since it's been taken without permisson, so it's stolen. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:21, December 19, 2019 (EST)
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| ::::::...i thought we all knew that already? {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 13:51, December 19, 2019 (EST)
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| :::::::I suppose we can just use the other guide names, though the result is going to look a bit eclectic. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:54, December 24, 2019 (EST)
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| @Mister Wu: While that change would work for the future, SMBE is (to my knowledge) the only official publication we have outright banned using on the wiki due to the widespread information it uses from us. If another piece of official media does the same mistake, the line can be adjusted in the future, but ''every'' piece of information from us that is officially recognized and used sparingly seems a bit much. In my eyes, if Nintendo's translators uses something we named (Rudy the Clown, Black Jewel, etc.), it means we were recognized and they decided that name sounds better/didn't care enough to look up the actual usage. Attribution would certainly be helpful, though ^^; {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:33, December 22, 2019 (EST)
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| :Also, don't forget that we do have something else that was possibly sourced from the wiki (Polterpiranha/Ghost, since it seems unlikely that ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'' literally referred back to a short name from a ''Nintendo 3DS'' / ''Wii U'' trophy, as well as -potentially- Fire Nipper Plant even though that's a direct localization), but if we see something at or near the scope of ''Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia'' then we can cross that bridge when we get there. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:54, December 24, 2019 (EST)
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| ::::::::<s>We get there when we get ther</s> Yeah, speaking of that, Octopus also has been named as such in the Encyclopedia despite not receiving a proper name in earlier official sources. How will we handle it? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 10:34, December 24, 2019 (EST)
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| :::::::::I plan to create a different proposal when this one is over that will address the ''Super Mario Land 2'' enemy names (i.e. whether we should use Japanese names or generic descriptors). [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 11:14, December 24, 2019 (EST)
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