Editing Talk:Yoshi (platform series)

=="Adventures of Yoshi"==
{{Talk}}
From what I can tell, the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZXxOb6S6s0 video reference] was [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Yoshi%27s_Island_(series)&diff=2318218&oldid=2318188 originally] used as a source to say that the so-called "''Adventures of Yoshi''" series is "often put together with" the ''Yoshi's Island'' series; however, as anyone can see, it is clearly not the actual source for the new "''Adventures of Yoshi''" phrase. What is the actual source for the name? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:15, 22 October 2017 (EDT)
:I didn't create the page, although I did some edits using this term before. The source actually says ''his adventures'' on the video description, and the text talks about ''Yoshi's first adventure'' when talking about Yoshi's Island and also calls ''Yoshi's New Island'' ''a colourful adventure'' and ''Yoshi's Woolly World'' is callled ''an amazing adventure''. To be fully strict, we can use the name ''Yoshi's Adventures'' using as source the description of the video(''his'' is referred to Yoshi).--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:42, 22 October 2017 (EDT)
::To be fully strict, "''Yoshi'' (platform series)" should be the name if anything, assuming that doesn't overlap with the ''Yoshi's Island'' series. Technically, "''Adventures of Yoshi''" and "''Yoshi's Adventures''" are unofficial. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:48, 22 October 2017 (EDT)
:::The user who made this page has a history of making large changes without community approval, by the way. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:53, 25 October 2017 (EDT)
:::Considering how the upcoming game seems to be just called ''Yoshi'' as preliminary title, ''Yoshi (platform series)'' or ''Yoshi (platform games)'' should indeed be better names. Looking at the video, it seems that indeed Nintendo puts the ''Yoshi's Island'' series in this broader series/group. Sorry for having introduced the ''Adventures of Yoshi'' name in the wiki and for having made you wait so long. Sadly, for a couple of days I will be busy and likely won't be able to make the appropriate changes, feel free to make them if you think this page and the templates need prompt fixes before I'm able to do them by myself.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 10:37, 17 November 2017 (EST)
::::Save for what I might have missed, I should have made the preliminary fixes now, if there are other problems related to this issue you can discuss them here.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 21:48, 18 November 2017 (EST)

== Merge this article ==
{{TPP}}
I propose that the Yoshi platform series article should be merged into the Yoshi's Island series article because Yoshi Topsy-Turvy, Yoshi's Woolly World, and the upcoming Yoshi game for the Nintendo Switch are considered spin-offs of the Yoshi's Island games. According to Kyle Hilliard from my December 2015 issue on Game Informer, for example:

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''Yoshi's Woolly World is the Wii U's best-looking game, as well as the best Yoshi's Island since the original Super Nintendo title. It has a great balance of challenge, exciting bosses, callbacks to the first game, and enough new mechanics and touches to make it easily stand above each attempt at creating a Yoshi's Island successor of the past two decades.''
</blockquote>

'''Proposer''': {{User|Woodchuck}}<br>
'''Deadline''': March 20, 2018, 18:11 GMT

====Support====
#{{User|Woodchuck}} Per proposal.

====Oppose====

====Comments====
GameInformer isn't the best source of info. Anything more concrete? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 13:20, 6 March 2018 (EST)
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 =="Adventures of Yoshi"==
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 From what I can tell, the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZXxOb6S6s0 video reference] was [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Yoshi%27s_Island_(series)&diff=2318218&oldid=2318188 originally] used as a source to say that the so-called "''Adventures of Yoshi''" series is "often put together with" the ''Yoshi's Island'' series; however, as anyone can see, it is clearly not the actual source for the new "''Adventures of Yoshi''" phrase. What is the actual source for the name? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:15, 22 October 2017 (EDT)
 :I didn't create the page, although I did some edits using this term before. The source actually says ''his adventures'' on the video description, and the text talks about ''Yoshi's first adventure'' when talking about Yoshi's Island and also calls ''Yoshi's New Island'' ''a colourful adventure'' and ''Yoshi's Woolly World'' is callled ''an amazing adventure''. To be fully strict, we can use the name ''Yoshi's Adventures'' using as source the description of the video(''his'' is referred to Yoshi).--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:42, 22 October 2017 (EDT)
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 == Merge this article ==
-{{Settled TPP}}
+{{TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|no quorum|1-0}}
 I propose that the Yoshi platform series article should be merged into the Yoshi's Island series article because Yoshi Topsy-Turvy, Yoshi's Woolly World, and the upcoming Yoshi game for the Nintendo Switch are considered spin-offs of the Yoshi's Island games. According to Kyle Hilliard from my December 2015 issue on Game Informer, for example:
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 '''Proposer''': {{User|Woodchuck}}<br>
-'''Deadline''': March 20, 2018, 23:59 GMT
+'''Deadline''': March 20, 2018, 18:11 GMT
 ====Support====
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 ====Comments====
 GameInformer isn't the best source of info. Anything more concrete? {{User:Alex95/sig}} 13:20, 6 March 2018 (EST)
-As Alex95 mentioned, Internet game media sources isn't considerable for such as change. If '''[[MarioWiki:Canonicity|Nintendo-related source]]''' confirms the two series, then the Wiki will support it.
-{{User:L151/sig}}
-While I can see the point of putting the Yoshi's Island series in the page of the Yoshi platform games, the reasons you are giving are in my opinion flawed: the Yoshi's Island series {{file link|SMP Yoshi's Island opt.png|was shown in an official book}}, the ''{{file link|SMP page 98 opt.png|Super Mario Pia}}'', which also described the most relevant gameplay aspects of said series, while [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZXxOb6S6s0 the series of Yoshi platform games was shown in a video made by Nintendo]. They don't come from journalism categorization like in the case of the Game Informer article. I would rather find other reasons like "The Yoshi's Island series is official, but it doesn't need its own page, it can be perfectly described in full in a subsection of the page about the Yoshi platform games".--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 14:51, 6 March 2018 (EST)
-==Topsy-Turvy==
-So why is YTT considered merely a "spinoff?" Is that from an official source? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:09, April 3, 2020 (EDT)
-:6 month bump, but I assume it's entirely because of the linked trailer that lists Story/Woolly/Crafted alongside the YI games, but not Topsy-Turvy.  Pretty sure that trailer's the only backing behind this article's existence as a whole, which I've long questioned the necessity of. -{{User:YoshiFlutterJump/sig}} 23:10, October 22, 2020 (EDT)