Editing Talk:World of Trophies

==(First topic)==
I think the beginning part of the story is kinda fanon. {{User:Crypt Raider/sig}}

:Actually, the trophy for the Ancient Minister confirms it. It isn't fannon. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>

Oh. So I guess trophies play a large role in the game, huh. {{User:Crypt Raider/sig}}

::Very large one indeed. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>

What is the source for the name? I know it has been called This World on the Dojo, but the World of Trophies?{{User:Knife/sig}} 12:50, 6 April 2008 (EDT)

==Article Name==
Here is part of a message I put on [[User:Stumpers]]' talk page:

I don't know if it's "this world" or "This World". The text written [http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea01.html here] says "In this world, trophies fight." But at the same moment, the header for the entry says "This World...". It may have been because they had to capitalize it because it was a header, but I still think it's signifying that it's the actual name of the place. So, while not 100% sure, I have moved the article to [[This World]]. I'll try bringing it up on the talk page again, to see what others' opinions are.

So, just checking if no one has problems about the name it is now, or if anyone has a good arguement to make it decapitalized. {{USer:Garlic Man/sig}}
:There is that thing about the [[Ancient Minister]] trophy description: I hear it's the only "in-game" reference to the name of the world, and it's written, "this world" rather than "This World." The old Wiki standby has been to take video games above websites when it comes to these things, and considering thta the website used both proper and improper forms of the name, I think that, "this world" may be a better fit.  Honestly, though, it's hardly an issue. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 14:37, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
::Yeah, but when they decapitalize "this world", It seems like they're just talking about the particular world they are in(this world, that world). When non-capitalized, it's not really siginifying that it's the name of the place. Like, when I say "I live here", that doesn't mean the town I live is named "Here". But you're right, it hardly matters. {{User:Garlic Man/sig}} If we're going to name it "this world", however, we're going to need that conjecture template again, as it is not actually signifying what the name of the place is
:::This name is pseudo-official. It's obvious that the world is intended to be nameless. I would go for World of Trophies. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 18:04, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
::::Well... where does ''that'' name come from? Isn't it a fan word? :\ {{User:Garlic Man/sig}}
:::::We have conjectural titles, and this is one of them. It's descriptive. "This world" is nothing, it's not a name. It's only a phrase used to refer to the world, obviously not being its name. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 18:29, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
::::::[http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea01.html o_0] {{User:Garlic Man/sig}}
:::::::Ok; I glanced at the link and saw the title. As its seen on the top of the update, its called "This World...". --[[User:Palkia47|Palkia47]] 18:41, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
::::::::And since the site's run by Nintendo we can say "This world" is canon... right? - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 18:45, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
:::::::::Cobold: Whether it's a name or not, it's official, if anything. "World of Trophies" is not. {{User:Garlic Man/sig}}
:::::::::"Official name" has two parts. Official, and name. "This world" is official, but it is not a name. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 18:55, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
:::::::::As its seen, though, the official name that was said was "This World" or "This World'''...'''". "World of Trophies" is not the exact name that is used for the Emissary. When first revealed, it was "This World..."; not "World of Trophies". [[User:Palkia47|Palkia47]] 18:58, 28 August 2008 (EDT) Made no sense, did it?
:::::::::"Official name" has two parts. Official, and name. "World of Trophies" is a name, but it is not official - {{User:Garlic Man/sig}}
:::::::::But we're looking for a name, and not an "official". This article will never be found by somebody looking for it because it uses a totally undescriptive phrase. When looking at the Dojo update, it's in fact part of the sentence "In this world, trophies fight." - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 11:21, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
::::::::Why does it have to be conjectural then?  Why not just call it: "World of Subspace Emmissary," "World of Super Smash Bros. Brawl," or "World of Super Smash Bros." At least then you're avoiding conjecture as much as possible.  Besides, Cobold: we can always make a redirect page at "World of Trophies" that would lead here.  That's what we've always done previously whenever something has a name that few will get exactly (Super Mario RPG leading to Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars for example). {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 14:00, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
:::::::::That sounds much better. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:26, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
::::::::Cool!  Glad that this worked out. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 15:12, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

how do you know its called "this world"? on reading the usage, it seems as if the writing "In this world, trophies fight." the writer is saying "in the world I am talking about....." 

you see wot I mean? [[User:Lu-igi board|Lu-igi board]] 15:45, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

"World of Trophies" is both '''official''' ''and'' appears in the game itself, as a movie clip. At the first select screen of the game go to Data, then Movies, then Subspace Emissary, and the first movie is called "The World of Trophies" (This is actually the movie introducing the Midair Stadium, Mario, Kirby, Peach and Zelda as well as the World in general). --<small> <span style="border:2px solid #000;padding:1px;">'''[[User:AM666999|<span style="font-family: Tempus Sans ITC;color: #FF0000">AM666999</span>]]'''[[User talk:AM666999|<font style="color:#f9f9f9;background:#000000;">talk</font>]]</span></small> 19:26, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

*Therefore I think the article should be moved to [[World of Trophies]] & ''this'' page made a redirect.--<small> <span style="border:2px solid #000;padding:1px;">'''[[User:AM666999|<span style="font-family: Tempus Sans ITC;color: #FF0000">AM666999</span>]]'''[[User talk:AM666999|<font style="color:#f9f9f9;background:#000000;">talk</font>]]</span></small> 19:35, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

==Merge into Subspace Emissary==
{{Settled TPP}}

{{Proposal outcome|green|MERGE THEM 5-3}}

I say we merge this article into the Subspace emissary because it doesn't really deserve to stand on its own and it's a stub.

'''Proposer:''' {{User|Zero777}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' November 12, 2010, 21:00

===Support===
#{{User|Zero777}} I am Zero! Per me. Zero signing out.
#{{User|Edofenrir}} - This is somewhat ironic, but Arend's oppose vote just made something clear to me that makes me support. The Subspace Emissary is a '''game mode''', and we '''don't give game modes separate articles''' (Adventure Mode doesn't have an article, f.e.). Therefore, consistency and our policy dictates that the Subspace Emissary article has no grounds to exist (because it's just a game mode), and the two articles must be merged. However, rather than merging WoT into the SE, we will have to do it the other way around and merge the SE into this article. If you don't want to create a huge disconsistency with our other content, please reconsider your votes.
#{{User|Fawfulfury65}} Per Edo, we don't give game modes articles.
#{{User|Rise Up Above It}} Per Edo now. Even Knife said something similar in the comments. Not so sure about WoT & game mode, but yeah, I'm supporting.
#{{User|Garlic Stapler}} Per Edo.

===Oppose===
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Stubs should be expanded, not deleted: this subject ''is'' fairly significant (if the [[Ancient Minister]] got an article, the the entire world that the Subspace Emissary is set it should qualify as well), and the current article isn't actually that bad. It's only labelled a stub because it could be so much better (i.e. sections for each geographical area and links to all the articles dealing with them, such as [[The Lake]] or [[Sea of Clouds]]).
#{{User|MrConcreteDonkey}} Per Walkazo. This is the whole world where the whole SSE took place, so it's more than deserving to have its own article. Anyway, the page isn't a stub, the second section is.
#{{User|Arend}} Don't forget that the SSE is a ''game mode'' (or ''story'', and the World of Trophies is a ''location''. Whether SSE is a mode or story, it is anyways different than a location. Also, per all.

===Comments===
Well, Walkazo made me think for a bit. But still, the article is kind of bad. Most information in the article can be found in the [[Subspace Emissary]] one. The World of Trophies should include the levels and such, but the Subspace Emissary has the information. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 01:34, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

I suggest merging all the individuals stages into this one, seeing as the stages aren't very detailed in-game and would be better if they were merged together.--{{User|Knife}} 15:26, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
:Good idea: it'll also make navigating all the areas much easier (there isn't even a navigation template connecting them as it is now). - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 16:20, 3 November 2010 (UTC)