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Can someone please upload a pic of urchin from mario galaxy?{{User:Fg/sig}} | Can someone please upload a pic of urchin from mario galaxy?{{User:Fg/sig}} | ||
==Split Mega Urchin and Mini Urchin from Urchin== | ==Split Mega Urchin and Mini Urchin from Urchin== | ||
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I don't understand why these two things are merged because while it is true that they are in fact just bigger and small versions of Urchins they both have what I believe are official names (QUICK SOMEONE WITH A PRIMA GUIDE FOR NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII AND NSMB2 CONFIRM THIS) and they both show differences from regular Urchins because unlike Urchins which swim and roll both of these (I believe) don't move at all. I would also like to add that we have pages for smaller types of enemies like [[Micro Goomba]] and bigger types of enemies like [[Colossal Paratroopa]] so I fail to see why these pages should be treated differently. | I don't understand why these two things are merged because while it is true that they are in fact just bigger and small versions of Urchins they both have what I believe are official names (QUICK SOMEONE WITH A PRIMA GUIDE FOR NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII AND NSMB2 CONFIRM THIS) and they both show differences from regular Urchins because unlike Urchins which swim and roll both of these (I believe) don't move at all. I would also like to add that we have pages for smaller types of enemies like [[Micro Goomba]] and bigger types of enemies like [[Colossal Paratroopa]] so I fail to see why these pages should be treated differently. | ||
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== Unira == | == Unira == | ||
According to the article, the Japanese name for these guys is Unira. I realize that, other than being sea urchins, they don't really look the same, but [[Unira]] is also the name of the sea urchins from ''Clu Clu Land''. Is mentioning this noteworthy for the article? -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] ([[User talk:1337star|Mailbox SP]]) [[File:MPA Boo | According to the article, the Japanese name for these guys is Unira. I realize that, other than being sea urchins, they don't really look the same, but [[Unira]] is also the name of the sea urchins from ''Clu Clu Land''. Is mentioning this noteworthy for the article? -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] ([[User talk:1337star|Mailbox SP]]) [[File:MPA Boo.jpg|20px|Happy Halloween!]] 17:30, 30 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
== Two kinds in SMW == | == Two kinds in SMW == | ||
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==Split the ground Urchin== | ==Split the ground Urchin== | ||
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As discussed, there is a second type of Urchin in ''Super Mario Galaxy'' and ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'', which isn't named in the Prima Guides. One option is its internal name in both games, which is a direct translation of its first Japanese name. The other closest mention is on the trading card, which calls it a red Urchin. A third option is available for Riku Unira, which is a romanization of its more recent Japanese name. A fourth option has been included for "Urchin (land)", which is a compromise to feature an identifier based on the plain English internal name. This proposal will determine which of the four names it will get for the split. | As discussed, there is a second type of Urchin in ''Super Mario Galaxy'' and ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'', which isn't named in the Prima Guides. One option is its internal name in both games, which is a direct translation of its first Japanese name. The other closest mention is on the trading card, which calls it a red Urchin. A third option is available for Riku Unira, which is a romanization of its more recent Japanese name. A fourth option has been included for "Urchin (land)", which is a compromise to feature an identifier based on the plain English internal name. This proposal will determine which of the four names it will get for the split. | ||
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#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} My preferred choice. You didn't really get my point. I didn't use the "it is an english name but is made by Japanese people" argument. I said that "Unizo" isn't the english name. Also, for the SMBS items, it worths nothing. | #{{User|FanOfYoshi}} My preferred choice. You didn't really get my point. I didn't use the "it is an english name but is made by Japanese people" argument. I said that "Unizo" isn't the english name. Also, for the SMBS items, it worths nothing. | ||
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Since we do have an English name for it, I think this is the logical choice. | #{{User|Waluigi Time}} Since we do have an English name for it, I think this is the logical choice. | ||
===Keep merged=== | ===Keep merged=== | ||
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::I said that Needle Plant is merely placeholdery, and is not intended to be the actual name. Donkey Kong Jungle Beat did have internal filenames "englishized", but most of them are too '''generic'''. Kiba Pig Poppo wasn't entirely englishized though, and i feel that it is nonsensical by itself. [[Mini Iga]] and [[Bakky]] are total romanizations just like [[Karikari]] and [[Kamikami]]. Wait, the source priority proposal? I'd have liked to make a counterproposal, since i'd prefer a guide-by-guide basis. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 08:00, 9 March 2019 (EST) | ::I said that Needle Plant is merely placeholdery, and is not intended to be the actual name. Donkey Kong Jungle Beat did have internal filenames "englishized", but most of them are too '''generic'''. Kiba Pig Poppo wasn't entirely englishized though, and i feel that it is nonsensical by itself. [[Mini Iga]] and [[Bakky]] are total romanizations just like [[Karikari]] and [[Kamikami]]. Wait, the source priority proposal? I'd have liked to make a counterproposal, since i'd prefer a guide-by-guide basis. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 08:00, 9 March 2019 (EST) | ||
:::Except Needle Plant isn't a placeholder since it's still in use (and that's not what you indicated [[Special:Diff/2612233|earlier]]), and I already went over how Mini Iga and Bakky aren't real {{wp|Romanization of Japanese#Modern systems|romanizations}}. Anyway, this is going nowhere here. If you still have issues about particular cases, I'd suggest taking them to the appropriate talk page. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:21, 9 March 2019 (EST) | :::Except Needle Plant isn't a placeholder since it's still in use (and that's not what you indicated [[Special:Diff/2612233|earlier]]), and I already went over how Mini Iga and Bakky aren't real {{wp|Romanization of Japanese#Modern systems|romanizations}}. Anyway, this is going nowhere here. If you still have issues about particular cases, I'd suggest taking them to the appropriate talk page. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:21, 9 March 2019 (EST) | ||