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== Needed? ==
I wonder whether we need a separate article for this. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 15:44, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

Dunno. I guess it was a key item in passing the underground stage.{{User:SpikeKnifeNeedleSword/sig}} 19:39, 19 August 2007 (EDT)
:Yes, keep it. This was an important item in the Underground Stage, so it belongs here. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}

==Delete==
I don't think it should be deleted but I think all the non-mario info has to go. {{User|Marioguy1}}
:Yeah but it is then a stub. {{User|KS3}}
::KS3, stop saying that something should be merged/deleted because it's a stub. Have you never heard of expanding? I'm getting really annoyed. {{User:Reversinator/sig}}
:::Also, that "non-mario info" is from Super Smash Bros. Melee, Adventure Mode's third level. {{User:Reversinator/sig}}
:::I never said it should be merged. Triforce needs to appear in more games... {{User:KS3/sig}}

== Split Triforce Arcade and LoZ Triforce ==
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Triforce means two different things, and can't be in the same article. One means {{wp|List of Sega arcade system boards#Triforce|the arcade board}}, which is used by ''[[Mario Kart Arcade GP]]'' and ''[[Mario Kart Arcade GP 2]]''. We also cover [[Template:Consoles|non-household hardware]], such as the [[Nintendo PlayChoice-10]] and [[VS. System]] for some examples. It should be worth noting that no information for the Triforce arcade board has been made available for {{SITENAME}}. Article creation will and should happen. The other means [[zeldawiki:Triforce|the symbol of ''The Legend of Zelda'' series]], and has the loose justification of being a [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]] article set forth by the [[MarioWiki:Coverage|{{SITENAME}} coverage policy]]. I propose a split, but a unique one that also factors in [[MarioWiki:Naming#Shared titles|appropriate naming]], because both share the same name, if one of the three support options ends up as the winning option.

'''Proposer''': {{User|Wildgoosespeeder}}<br>
'''Deadline''': April 17, 2018, 23:59:59 GMT

===LoZ Triforce Gets Moved to the Identifier===
#{{User|Wildgoosespeeder}} Per proposal. I like this option the most.
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} Considering the [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_51#Make_an_exception_for_the_Super_Smash_Bros._series_in_our_coverage_policy|previous proposal]], and how small of a role the actual Triforce plays even in the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series, the arcade system board is more pertinent to the ''Mario'' franchise and should have priority. Either way, these two subjects are not big enough for a separate disambiguation page.
#{{User|BBQ Turtle}} Per all, the arcade system is more relevant to the ''Mario'' franchise, as it is virtually another form of console, than the symbol, which only appears as part of various crossovers with little relevance compared to in its series of origin, with probably the most significant being its usage as a symbol for a cup in ''Mario Kart 8'' and ''Mario Kart 8 Deluxe''. Also, in the case of Nintendo DS, the [[Nintendo DS|console]] takes priority over the [[Nintendo DS (battle course)|battle course]], as do the [[Nintendo GameCube]] versions, which I think are fairly comparable here, which suggest the console should take priority over the in-game element.
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} Per all.
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per all.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per all. The arcade system is more relevant to the ''Mario'' franchise, and I also don't feel a disambiguation page is necessary, so I feel this option makes the most sense.

===Arcade Triforce Gets Moved to the Identifier===
#{{User|Wildgoosespeeder}} Per proposal. Not as ideal, but at least two different articles.
#{{User|Alex95}} - When you think of "Triforce", the ''Zelda'' item is usually the first to come to mind.

===Both Pages Gets Moved to an Identifier, [[Triforce]] becomes a [[Template:Disambig|disambiguation page]]===
#{{User|Wildgoosespeeder}} Per proposal. If the previous two options aren't liked.
#{{User|Alex95}} - They are two different things that have minimal influence on the ''Mario'' series. Because of this, "Triforce (symbol)" and "Triforce (arcade board)" makes the most sense to me.

===Do Nothing===

===Comments===
If an identifier is needed, what should it be, to follow [[MarioWiki:Naming#Shared titles]]? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 11:10, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
:There doesn't seem to be anything to split. The arcade titles are placed into the about on the top of the page, but the page content makes no mention of the arcade board. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 11:15, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
::I was looking to create an article for the arcade board. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 11:18, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
:::Should make that clear, then. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 11:19, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
We got games:
*''[[Donkey Kong: Banana Kingdom‎]]''
*''[[Donkey Kong: Jungle Fever‎]]''
*''[[Mario Kart Arcade GP]]''
*''[[Mario Kart Arcade GP 2]]''
''[[Mario Kart Arcade GP DX]]'' doesn't seem to be using the arcade board from my records. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 12:22, 3 April 2018 (EDT)

Ooh, I'm split on this. On one hand, when one says the name, they think of the Zelda item/object/force/character/inconsistently-defined mass of power, as well as the fact that the arcade board is named ''after'' said thing, but on the other hand, the arcade board is more relevant to the ''Mario'' franchise, as the most the Zelda thingy has gotten in the extended ''Mario'' franchise is some small (instantaneous, even) cameos, and as LTL said, there's so little pertinent information for either to make a disambig page without seeming superfluous....very tricky decision indeed. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:40, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
:Agreed. I'm leaning towards "best known" and going for "Triforce" for the golden triangles and "Triforce (arcade)" for the arcade GameCube just as a tie-breaker, but it's not a clean decision. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 13:44, 3 April 2018 (EDT)

@BBQ Turtle: The last part of your argument is flawed a bit; the Nintendo DS system precludes the others in hierarchy due to the fact that it predates the others, which are all based upon it. The Triforce system is named for the incomprehensibly-defined concept from the ''Zelda'' franchise, not the other way around. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:30, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
:I am aware that the system is named after the symbol and that the symbol predates it, and that what I've said isn't a perfect comparison, but I'm just trying to use it to illustrate an instance where the consoles take priority over the in-game objects (The symbol and battle courses). I'm using them as a comparison for what they are as opposed to their hierarchy. My main reason for supporting is the first part of the comment anyway. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 19:03, 3 April 2018 (EDT)