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| ::::No, first name is Mia, "Mama" is just a nickname to make a "Mamma mia" joke. BUT... being Italian, I can safely say it's not unusual to refer to someone with their "family role" even if it's incorrect with their point of view (example, a parent calling his own father/father-in-law "grandpa"): Mia might be Arthur's sister-in-law, but since she is mostly referred as "Mama" by her kids, he would use the same name, despite actually being siblings in-laws. Also, we do know "Mama" and "Papa" are actual nicknames (again, to make a "Mamma Mia" joke out of their names), so it's safe to say it's that in the Portuguese subtitles. --{{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 10:04, December 8, 2024 (EST) | | ::::No, first name is Mia, "Mama" is just a nickname to make a "Mamma mia" joke. BUT... being Italian, I can safely say it's not unusual to refer to someone with their "family role" even if it's incorrect with their point of view (example, a parent calling his own father/father-in-law "grandpa"): Mia might be Arthur's sister-in-law, but since she is mostly referred as "Mama" by her kids, he would use the same name, despite actually being siblings in-laws. Also, we do know "Mama" and "Papa" are actual nicknames (again, to make a "Mamma Mia" joke out of their names), so it's safe to say it's that in the Portuguese subtitles. --{{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 10:04, December 8, 2024 (EST) |
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| :::::EXCUSE ME?!?!?! SINCE WHEN IS MAMA'S NAME "MIA"?!?!?! Mama’s first name is Mama. Just accept it. {{User:Weegie baby/sig}} 13:59, December 8, 2024 (EST) | | :::::EXCUSE ME?!?!?! SINCE WHEN IS MAMA'S NAME "MIA"?!?!?! Her first name is "Mama". Think about it: if Grandma Mario's full name is "Grandmama Mia Mario", shouldn't Mario and Luigi call her "Grandmama Mario"? Mama's fisrt name is Mama. {{User:Weegie baby/sig}} 13:59, December 8, 2024 (EST) |
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| ::::::Mama isn't a name anywhere, it's a family role; Mia is an actual name; and Mario we know it's the surname (which, I can confirm, it's also a real-life surname here in Italy). Full (legal) name: Mia Rigassi Mario, aka Mama Mia Mario ("get it? "Mammamia"?"). It's not a matter of accepting it: it's a logical reasoning. Nothing forbids me from being wrong, of course, but with what we know now, "Mama" definitely sounds like a nickname, not the first name. I mean... I doubt Grandma and Grampa Rigassi used the Smurf logic by giving her a name that would be fitting for her role. With ''your'' logic, [[Aunt Luigeena|Luigeena]]'s first name is "Aunt". {{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 06:30, December 9, 2024 (EST)
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| :::::::With my logic, Luigeena's first name isn't aunt. But Mama's name is Mama Mia Mario. Full name. If Luigeena's infobox said "Full name: Aunt Luigeena", I'd likely thik her first name is Aunt, but since it doesn't say that, I don't. And Mama's maiden name isn't in her name anymore. Last year, I put "Mama Mia Rigassi Mario" on her infobox and Mario jc deleted it. And since you're itallian, tell me: doesn't Mia mean "Mine" (as in "That cake is mine" for example)? {{User:Weegie baby/sig}} 09:12, December 9, 2024 (EST)
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| ::::::::Possibly because Rigassi is only canon in the show: the games have officially never revealed her maiden name, so we can't actually put it as her (official) full name. Better example to make is... [[Tails]]: everyone calls him "Tails" despite being a nickname and his full name being "Miles Prower", or [[Dr. Eggman]]. With the same logic, "Mama Mia" has become her most used/known name, despite "Mama" being pretty obviously a nickname. Yeah, "mia" is also the Italian "my"/"mine" in feminine form, but it is also a given name in Latin-derived languages. Words as names aren't news in any languages: "Aurora" (sunrise), "Dawn" (sunset), "Faith"/"Hope" ('nuff said), "Celeste" (sky-blue), "Pine" (a litteral tree), "Ash" (cinder)... Pio (Papa Mario's name), per se, it is also the Italian onomatopoeia for the chick's chirping, and is also the Italian word for "pious", but doesn't negate its nature as an Italian given male name, just like Mia. But "Mama" is... not one of these cases: it means "Mom", it's just a word said in an Italian-ish way for a pun, like most nicknames tend to do. Most definitely not a given name. {{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 12:45, December 9, 2024 (EST)
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| :::::::::Ok. But now that you're "talking", I'm actually starting to doubt if "Mama" is Mama's name or not. And if you can answer this well, I'll believe that "Mia" is her name: the Mario series has weird names. "Midbus", "Kamek", "Bowser", etc. And even humans: Peach, {{hover|[[Kid]]|The name of this subject isn't conjectural and has been officially confirmed}}, 5-Volt, etc. So, explain it. {{User:Weegie baby/sig}} 15:44, December 9, 2024 (EST)
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| ::::::::::Simple: the Marios were originally created as people from a real-life location ([[New York]]) with roots from a real-life place ([[Italy]]), before retconing in ''[[Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]]'' that they are actually native from the [[Mushroom Kingdom]] and that the "New York" they were talking about in previous games was either [[New Donk City]], [[Big Ape City]] and/or [[Big-City]]. Before that, of course the "Real World humans" (such as Stanley) would have normal realistic names, while the "aliens of the Mushroom World" (such as Peach Toadstool) would have unusual/fantastical names, which most of them derives from a Japanese rework of actual names or from real-life names (there are people called "Peaches" and I do know that "Bowser" is a pet-name for dogs and we do know a guy that has "Bowser" as a [[Doug Bowser|surname]]). {{User:Mariuigi_Khed/sig}} 18:25, December 9, 2024 (EST)
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| :::::::::::Ok. Peace ✌️. ''vanishes'' {{User:Weegie baby/sig}} 07:21, December 10, 2024 (EST)
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| {{@|Weegie baby}} I think you're talking this "Mama Mia Mario is her full name" thing a bit too literally. I think it'd make more sense to treat the "Mama" part as a ''title'' rather than as her first name (y'know, because you tend to call your own parents things such as "mama", "papa", "mom", "dad", "mum", "pops", etc, rather than their actual first name). It's like how Peach's full name is "Princess Peach Toadstool"; "Princess" is her title. If we're treating the "Mama" in Mama Mia Mario's name as her actual first name ''instead'' of a title, then by that logic, Peach's first name should be "Princess" instead. {{User:Arend/sig}} 15:52, December 9, 2024 (EST)
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