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== Merge with [[Fire Mario]] and turn into a redirect for [[Super Mario (form)|Super Mario]] == | == Merge with [[Fire Mario]] and turn into a redirect for [[Super Mario (form)|Super Mario]] == | ||
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Well, this is a long time coming. This article deals with the issue regarding Super Toad's reason to be an article in the first place. For context, ''this is literally'' the ''Super Show!'''s equivalent of Fire Toad. When it comes to power-up form pages in general, we usually just put them in the same article as "X-form Mario". The [[Fire Mario]] page does not split the various different characters that have the Fire Power and Toad should be no different. | Well, this is a long time coming. This article deals with the issue regarding Super Toad's reason to be an article in the first place. For context, ''this is literally'' the ''Super Show!'''s equivalent of Fire Toad. When it comes to power-up form pages in general, we usually just put them in the same article as "X-form Mario". The [[Fire Mario]] page does not split the various different characters that have the Fire Power and Toad should be no different. | ||
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#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} I definitely support merging this article. Regarding the name, though, I feel like readers who search "Super Toad" are more likely to be looking for the common form from the games rather than a form that appeared once in the show, so I think redirecting this to the [[Super Mario (form)]] article and adding a {{tem|Redirect}} template that links to the section on the [[Fire Mario]] article with the relevant information is a preferable way to deal with this. | #{{User|TheFlameChomp}} I definitely support merging this article. Regarding the name, though, I feel like readers who search "Super Toad" are more likely to be looking for the common form from the games rather than a form that appeared once in the show, so I think redirecting this to the [[Super Mario (form)]] article and adding a {{tem|Redirect}} template that links to the section on the [[Fire Mario]] article with the relevant information is a preferable way to deal with this. | ||
#{{User|ShootingStar7X}} It'd be inconsistent and potentially confusing if the aforementioned Super Peach and Super Toadette redirect to [[Super Mario (form)]] while Super Toad redirects to Fire Mario. | #{{User|ShootingStar7X}} It'd be inconsistent and potentially confusing if the aforementioned Super Peach and Super Toadette redirect to [[Super Mario (form)]] while Super Toad redirects to Fire Mario. | ||
#{{User|Alexo}} Changed; per Arend and ShootingStar7X. | #{{User|Alexo|AlexO}} Changed; per Arend and ShootingStar7X. | ||
#{{User|Kirbeat}} I support merging this with Fire Mario by the reasons stated in the proposal. About the redirect, [[Super Yellow Toad]], [[Super Blue Toad]], [[Super Peach]], [[Super Rosalina]] and [[Super Toadette]] are redirects to [[Super Mario (form)]] that exist (see [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Super Mario (form)]]) and I presume that that is because those are terms that can be used to refer to the form that those characters take after gulping a [[Super Mushroom]]; in ''[[SM3DW]]'', our "[[Small Mario|Small]] [[Rosalina]]" can munch a Sup Shroom, and with that she will take the form of "Super Rosalina", thus why does that redirect exist, and so on with the other characters in the games that apply. And well, that same thing can be applied to our Toad guy; in ''[[SMB2]]'', ''SM3DW'', ''[[SMR]]'' and ''[[SMM2]]'' there is "Small Toad" and "''Super Toad''". While the TV series' Super Toad is something that exist, and the "Super Toad" term can be applied to both the Super form of Toad in platforming games and to that TV series' Fire Toad one, I think that if Super Toad is a redirect to Fire Mario, it would be giving more weight to the TV series' Super Toad than the platforming games' one, and sincerely, at least to me the platforming series' Super Toad is much more relevant and has much more weight than the TV series' one. So, if [[Super Toad]] becomes a redirect, it should be to [[Super Mario (form)]] as that would be in line with the platforming games' Super Toad, which has way more weight and is much more relevant than the TV series' Super Toad.<br> I have thought about the disambiguation possibility brought up [[#Comments|below]], specially by seeing that [[Super Luigi]] is a disambig too instead of a redirect to Super Mario (form), but as Super Toad only refers to two topics, I think that a disambiguation wouldn't be so relevant. I still agree with making [[Super Toad]] a disambig though, more than making it a redirect to Fire Mario, but I'd prefer way more making it a redirect to Super Mario (form) and placing on top of the page a {{tem|redirect}} or {{tem|redirect-distinguish}} acknowledging the TV series' Super Toad, which is what is already done for [[Super Princess]] anyways. | #{{User|Kirbeat}} I support merging this with Fire Mario by the reasons stated in the proposal. About the redirect, [[Super Yellow Toad]], [[Super Blue Toad]], [[Super Peach]], [[Super Rosalina]] and [[Super Toadette]] are redirects to [[Super Mario (form)]] that exist (see [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Super Mario (form)]]) and I presume that that is because those are terms that can be used to refer to the form that those characters take after gulping a [[Super Mushroom]]; in ''[[SM3DW]]'', our "[[Small Mario|Small]] [[Rosalina]]" can munch a Sup Shroom, and with that she will take the form of "Super Rosalina", thus why does that redirect exist, and so on with the other characters in the games that apply. And well, that same thing can be applied to our Toad guy; in ''[[SMB2]]'', ''SM3DW'', ''[[SMR]]'' and ''[[SMM2]]'' there is "Small Toad" and "''Super Toad''". While the TV series' Super Toad is something that exist, and the "Super Toad" term can be applied to both the Super form of Toad in platforming games and to that TV series' Fire Toad one, I think that if Super Toad is a redirect to Fire Mario, it would be giving more weight to the TV series' Super Toad than the platforming games' one, and sincerely, at least to me the platforming series' Super Toad is much more relevant and has much more weight than the TV series' one. So, if [[Super Toad]] becomes a redirect, it should be to [[Super Mario (form)]] as that would be in line with the platforming games' Super Toad, which has way more weight and is much more relevant than the TV series' Super Toad.<br> I have thought about the disambiguation possibility brought up [[#Comments|below]], specially by seeing that [[Super Luigi]] is a disambig too instead of a redirect to Super Mario (form), but as Super Toad only refers to two topics, I think that a disambiguation wouldn't be so relevant. I still agree with making [[Super Toad]] a disambig though, more than making it a redirect to Fire Mario, but I'd prefer way more making it a redirect to Super Mario (form) and placing on top of the page a {{tem|redirect}} or {{tem|redirect-distinguish}} acknowledging the TV series' Super Toad, which is what is already done for [[Super Princess]] anyways. | ||
===Merge with Fire Mario but have the redirect link to the Fire Mario section=== | ===Merge with Fire Mario but have the redirect link to the Fire Mario section=== |