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| | |A-rating=4 |
| | |A-comment=This section has been fixed from the last time I reviewed it. |
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| | |D-comment=The article has been expanded enough to increase by .5. However, there are still a few more problems, like minor game limits are not explained (the most possible damage a character can get is 999%, the player can set 1-99 lives, how much time can a player set in how many increments, or no more than 999 Coins can be collected). There is nothing that mentions that the player can gain points in Single-Player Mode or that there are records recorded in Mission Mode. I think room can be made on the missions template to tell whether the record is measured by time or KOs. Tournament Mode needs to be expanded a little more regarding pre-tourney options. I have also forgotten one of the most important things: Critic Reception by gameranking sources. More to be explained after these are solved. |
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| | |G-comment=There are still a few one liners, but I see that the majority of them are placed right under a section following many sub-sections. Instead of just pointing out the obvious, you should remove those sentences and let the sub-sections explain. |
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| | |I-comment=I must say that this hasn't been worked on much since I last reviewed (N/O). There should be more screenshots unique to the article and one of the images are still a bit small. It needs more images on the lower half of the article though. |
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| | |F-comment=Maybe another table for the courses/stages in classic and adventure mode. The Event Mode table looks a bit weird, though I'm not sure if that is intentional or not. |
| | |FR-comment=This article is more improved from the last time and a little more might make it good enough to be nominated. |
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| | |A-comment=The different controls and modes are explained well and accurately. Very good quality without seeming overwhelming. |
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| | |D-comment=The General Moves section could be expanded, maybe adding some advanced tricks in addition to the basics. Some of the characters have long descriptions, while others just have one or two sentences. They should be even one way or the other. A few of the single-player modes could be expanded. A little more could go in the way of the Critical Reception sub-header, as I know there's a lot more the critics have said about the game. |
| | |G-rating=2.5 |
| | |G-comment=Minor grammar mistakes, but they happen all over the article, particularly in the single player modes. |
| | |I-rating=3.5 |
| | |I-comment=Great on the various pictures in the tables, but perhaps some screenshots of actual gameplay would work well here. |
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| | |F-comment=Good balancing of text and images in the first quarter of the article. Maybe implement a show/hide feature on the tables to make it seem less overwhelming. Event Match table looks a bit odd. |
| | |FR-comment=Good article, just needs a bit of tweaking of grammar and expanding on some sections. |
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| What happened to the series icons in the Stages section? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:45, 19 March 2008 (EDT) | | What happened to the series icons in the Stages section? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 15:45, 19 March 2008 (EDT) |
| :I can't remember the article having them. I also don't think we should use any icons from Brawl on the Melee page. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 15:53, 19 March 2008 (EDT) | | :I can't remember the article having them. I also don't think we should use any icons from Brawl on the Melee page. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 15:53, 19 March 2008 (EDT) |
| ::But how are we going to identify the stages' series? --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 17:23, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::Is there a need for a sign? If people really don't know from what the stages are (I doubt that), they can check the stages' articles. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 17:38, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::::The other lists have series identifiers. --[[User:Trogga|Trogga]] 20:53, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::::Each description of the stage in the table lists the game the stage is from, so I see no need in repeating what is already there. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 07:19, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
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| ::::We could actually save some space by doing that with the characters and items, no? {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 17:15, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
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| :::::Indeed we could. Would give the tables the same basic layout. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 17:21, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
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| I recently removed the trivia section by integrating it into the article, and that brought a bunch of source-less content to Cobold's attention. He removed it, and I just wanted to let everyone know that I have no source for it either; I was assuming that someone else would. In other words, there's nothing I can do to fix the problem, so if you believe teh information to be true, please take care of it yourself. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 21:38, 16 April 2008 (EDT)
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| :I don't think they should be in the article between playable characters and playable stages, which actually appear in the game. The page [[Super Smash Bros. Melee/Beta elements|Beta Elements]] exists for that kind of content, so unless we're going to split it up, we should add the (sourced) information there, not here. There could be a shorter statement about "dropped characters" in the Trivia section, with a link to Melee's section on the Beta Elements page. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 08:40, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
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| ::Whatever works best. Hmm... I do believe this is an opportunity to hunt down some information about the game's developement and make a section about that... but I wouldn't know where to look for that kind of information. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 17:04, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
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| :::When you say you need information about the game's development, do you mean how the game was created, who created it, when stages and characters were announced to be playable, etc.?? {{User:Glitchman/sig}}
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| ::::Not that in-depth in terms of revealing game elements, but more like the production schedule of the game, yeah. Like how it was created, etc. There's a little about this on the ''Brawl'' "Iwata Asks" but that's all I know of. Oh, and there's a version of the ''DOJO!'' that focused on ''Melee'' on the Japanese Nintendo website, but's in in Japanese. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 17:23, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
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| :::::OK. Well I don't know exactly where you could find that kind of info, but if you google "Super Smash Bros. Melee World", that's the website where they used to post updates on Melee, like Dojo. Then you could also see Wikipedia. {{User:Glitchman/sig}}
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| ::::Thanks! {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 19:05, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
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| == The name "Brawl" ==
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| Brawl is just an english word. I don't think a random occurance on the box, which is not done by the game's creators but by marketing experts, means anything seven years afterwards. I'd remove that trivia. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:47, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
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| :Alright. Let me get it. {{user:MegaMario9910/sig}}
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| == Character descriptions ==
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| I'm in the middle of making some sweeping edits to character descriptions. Character statistics (such as jumping height, weight, running speed) can generally be checked against [http://hometown.aol.com/oovideogamegodoo/myhomepage/profile.html this site]. Ask me if you have any concerns, comments, and so forth. {{User:Kamek at the disco/sig}} 15:31, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
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| == Master Hand Glitch ==
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| Should we mention the "Master Hand Glitch" where you can play as Master Hand? Please no replys like "You can play as Master Hand?! How?!" I just want to know if we should include this and take out the Master Hand part of the debug menu in trivia. {{User|Lemmy Koopa Fan}}
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| :Glitch? I thought that happens if you hack the game. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 18:21, 26 August 2009 (EDT)
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| :I found it on SmashWiki, I tried the glitch, and it worked. I was Master Hand without hacking the game. {{User|Lemmy Koopa Fan}}
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| ::Check Glitches. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 13:41, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
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| ==Sonic/Tails Hoax==
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| do you think that the 2002 April Fools joke that Sonic and Tails were unlockable characters (for SSBM) should be mentioned in the trivia of this article? '''[[User:McAusten]]!''' '''·''' [[User talk:McAusten|talk to me]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/McAusten|my edits]] 17:59, 13 December 2011 (EST)
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| :No, it's not really important. {{User:Nintendo64Fan/sig}}
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| == Trivia ==
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| Ahem, guys, you are complete idiots. In my gameplay through Classic Mode, I never seen Marth at all, but I have seen Roy. I have changed the mistake, and you are welcome. Also, let me point out that Metal Link is the most common metal character in Classic Mode. [[User:SmasherLink|SmasherLink]] ([[User talk:SmasherLink|talk]]) 01:43, 23 July 2012 (EDT)SmasherLink
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| ...So what was the point of this comment? {{user:Mario jc/sig}}
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| == In Lieu of Original Descriptions ==
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| Since it's generally bad practice to rely on potentially opinionated written descriptions on the Mario Wiki, I was thinking that in lieu of those descriptions, we could use official descriptions of the playable characters from their [Smash] trophies, as those are the "official profiles" for each character that actually describe how they work in-game (as opposed to the non-Smash trophy, which gives a brief history lesson on each character). I was thinking we could just fit both [Smash] trophy descriptions into the playable character table, as two paragraphs. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 22:42, May 30, 2020 (EDT)
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| == Master Hand ==
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| Did you know you can play as Master Hand using specific combination on the character select screen.[[User:The original ToadyBro|The original ToadyBro]] ([[User talk:The original ToadyBro|talk]]) 20:43, May 5, 2023 (EDT)
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