Editing Talk:Super Smash Bros. Melee

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{{PAIRreview
|A-rating=4
|A-comment=This section has been fixed from the last time I reviewed it.
|D-rating=3.0
|D-comment=The article has been expanded enough to increase by .5. However, there are still a few more problems, like minor game limits are not explained (the most possible damage a character can get is 999%, the player can set 1-99 lives, how much time can a player set in how many increments, or no more than 999 Coins can be collected). There is nothing that mentions that the player can gain points in Single-Player Mode or that there are records recorded in Mission Mode. I think room can be made on the missions template to tell whether the record is measured by time or KOs. Tournament Mode needs to be expanded a little more regarding pre-tourney options. I have also forgotten one of the most important things: Critic Reception by gameranking sources. More to be explained after these are solved.
|G-rating=3.5
|G-comment=There are still a few one liners, but I see that the majority of them are placed right under a section following many sub-sections. Instead of just pointing out the obvious, you should remove those sentences and let the sub-sections explain.
|I-rating=3.5
|I-comment=I must say that this hasn't been worked on much since I last reviewed (N/O). There should be more screenshots unique to the article and one of the images are still a bit small. It needs more images on the lower half of the article though.
|F-rating=3.5
|F-comment=Maybe another table for the courses/stages in classic and adventure mode. The Event Mode table looks a bit weird, though I'm not sure if that is intentional or not.
|FR-comment=This article is more improved from the last time and a little more might make it good enough to be nominated.
|signature=[[User:Knife|Knife]]}}

{{PAIRreview
|A-rating=4
|A-comment=The different controls and modes are explained well and accurately. Very good quality without seeming overwhelming.
|D-rating=3.5
|D-comment=The General Moves section could be expanded, maybe adding some advanced tricks in addition to the basics. Some of the characters have long descriptions, while others just have one or two sentences. They should be even one way or the other. A few of the single-player modes could be expanded. A little more could go in the way of the Critical Reception sub-header, as I know there's a lot more the critics have said about the game.
|G-rating=2.5
|G-comment=Minor grammar mistakes, but they happen all over the article, particularly in the single player modes.
|I-rating=3.5
|I-comment=Great on the various pictures in the tables, but perhaps some screenshots of actual gameplay would work well here.
|F-rating=3.5
|F-comment=Good balancing of text and images in the first quarter of the article. Maybe implement a show/hide feature on the tables to make it seem less overwhelming. Event Match table looks a bit odd.
|FR-comment=Good article, just needs a bit of tweaking of grammar and expanding on some sections.
|signature=[[User:Phoenix Rider|Phoenix Rider]]
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==Unlocking==
Could somebody say how to unlock Dr. Mario and Luigi. [[User:YoshiFan|YoshiFan]] 21:27, 4 November 2006 (EST)

:For Luigi, play 800 Versus Matches.  (There's another method, but it's complicated and I don't have time to explain it now.)  For Dr. Mario, just beat Classic mode with Mario.[[User:Waluigi Freak 99|Waluigi Freak 99]] 17:20, 28 January 2007 (EST)
::Luigi is also unlockable by doing adventure mode and finishing the stage with a two in the seconds column (03:12:43). Luigi will then join the melee and kicks Mario away so he can fight you with Peach. Kill them both and Luigi's yours. But, next time, don't use the talk page for things like that on this wiki. [[Image:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]][[User:Parayoshi|<span style="color: green">Para Yoshi</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Parayoshi|<tt>Wahoo!</tt>]]</sup>[[Image:Parayoshiicon.jpg|20px]] 17:27, 28 January 2007 (EST)

== Rewrite ==

Anything still to be covered, or can the rewrite template be removed? [[User:Cobold|Cobold]] 11:34, 14 February 2007 (EST)

== food ==

Food is from the Kirby series! {{User:Maxlover2/sig}} in the Kirby games Kirby could eat various foods to increase his health. IF it says ''SSBM'' we should mention Kirby.
:The trophy doesn't make any mention of the Kirby series. Besides, I believe there's at least one Pokémon food in the game, so I doubt all of it came from the Kirby series. --{{User:Yoshi626/sig}} 19:00, 6 March 2007 (EST)

OK... {{User:Maxlover2/sig}} not starting an argument.

According to the guide, Food's first appearance is in SSBM. {{User:Monty Mole/sig}}

I'm just saying, some of the food (cherries, soda/syrup lookin thing) are all Kirby while others (that white and black triangle-thing) is actually Pokemon (I think, maybe the TV show...) anyway, so not all of the food is Smash Original. and, they messed up before. {{User:Maxlover2/sig}} listening to Onett theme on loop. Yay!

Or... maybe they are just regular food from no series in particular?{{User:Knife/sig}} 20:39, 6 March 2007 (EST)

Exactly! but... the Cherries and soda/syrup holder-thing are Kirby. {{User:Maxlover2/sig}} I am currently working in Operation:Fake Isyou. see [[Talk:Main Page]] for details.

That would be my guess, Knife. I think they're just generic food. Besides, cherries were also in ''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]''; that doesn't prove anything. {{User:Monty Mole/sig}}

OK. {{User:Maxlover2/sig}}

== Shortening ==
The MediaWiki software has noted that the article is too long, which may cause editing problems with some browsers. It suggests splitting the article into several sections. It would be possible splitting the level information for the adventure mode and event matches to special pages. I also propose the Marioverse Character Moves to be removed. The characters' moves can be easily seen on their corresponding pages. - [[User:Cobold|Cobold]]

I support removing the character's move, useless.
[[User:Gofer|Gofer]]
:I feel it may be a good idea to move the special attacks to each character's respective page, under an "Attacks" section, or something of the like. --{{User:TotalSpaceshipGuy3/sig}} 15:54, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
::The special moves have been moved to the characters' pages. However, the article is still tagged as too long. What parts of it should be moved to special pages? (see also [[:Category:Special Paper Mario Pages|Special ''Paper Mario'' Pages]]) Event matches? - [[User:Cobold|Cobold]]

There is no need to do anything to page. It happens to all long pages, like the [[Mario]] page. To prevent this problem, people with bad browsers should consider editing section by section.{{User:Knife/sig}} 16:49, 29 July 2007 (EDT)
:I agree with Knife on this one. Just edit section by section, it isn't that hard. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}
::Wow, didn't know how old this comment is? Of course, now I'm thinking the same way. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 03:18, 30 July 2007 (EDT)

== Descriptions of Characters, Items and Stages ==

Currently, only the Marioverse items have a short description on this page. Shouldn't there be some kind of short description for all items, and for characters and stages, too? Their articles then can go in-depth. Something like on [[Super Mario Strikers]] was on my mind. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 09:23, 26 June 2007 (EDT)
: Agreed. {{User:Smiddle/sig}} 09:27, 26 June 2007 (EDT)
Go for it. [[User:Fixitup]]

==?==
Why does Jigglypuffs box have her japanese name? - [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]]
:The images are official artwork which was most likely released on some Japanese official website. We can't edit the names now. Also look at Bowser's name (Koopa). - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 09:10, 17 July 2007 (EDT)
::What you see there is (if I remember right) the result of the Japanese Nintendo site's edits.  We never were given a plain artwork for the secret characters. {{User:Stumpers/sig}} 03:08, 17 August 2007 (EDT)

== Event Matches table ==

We apparently do have a MediaWiki bug in there, because the borders don't display properly. The same table looks fine when only using the Show Preview mode. Anyone have a solution? - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 05:23, 9 August 2007 (EDT)
:Isn't this the same thing that happened on my User Page? Well, kinda the same thing? {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}

== New way to unlock Marth? ==

My friends and I were playing Super Smash when Marth suddenly came up (in VS, before Jiggs even) for no reason.

The memory was fairly new, but I think I know what happened: We got Marth by playing as all the defaults once. We played as Mario, Peach, Bowser, Yoshi, DK, Link, Zelda/Shiek, Falcon, Fox, Pika, Ness, Kirby, the Ice Climbers, and Samus.

Someone wanna test this out?{{unsigned|Dodoman}}
<blockquote>Beating the Classic Mode with all default characters, or playing 400 VS matches.</blockquote>
So you didn't unlock him in one of those ways? - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 07:52, 28 September 2007 (EDT)

:Nopes. We had only played ten-ish matches, so I figured it was the mthod I stated above. -[[User:dodoman|Dodo]]
::It won't help us much if we don't know what caused it. Also, it sounds like a bug. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:28, 29 September 2007 (EDT)