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>_> OK. I saw an awsome texture hack for brawl. Two are [[Koopa]] colored sqirtle and a [[Yoob]] colored [[Yoshi]] (I saw them on a Youtube vid. uh, "brawl texture hacks 21 or 20" I think. I'll ask a question to get people interseted. Has anybody ever been launched by [[Luigi]] in brawl. -IandaM | |||
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I say we split the music staff and voice cast sections into separate, respectful sub-articles, just like the staff and soundtracks. One reason, this article is ENORMOUS and we need to down size it a bit. | I say we split the music staff and voice cast sections into separate, respectful sub-articles, just like the staff and soundtracks. One reason, this article is ENORMOUS and we need to down size it a bit. | ||
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'''Proposer''': {{User|Zero777}}<br> | '''Proposer''': {{User|Zero777}}<br> | ||
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The deadline was wrong: this was proposed on April 3rd GMT, so it ends on the 17th at 23:59 GMT. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 23:02, 4 April 2011 (EDT) | The deadline was wrong: this was proposed on April 3rd GMT, so it ends on the 17th at 23:59 GMT. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 23:02, 4 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
:This scheduling is too confusing. {{User|Zero777}} | :This scheduling is too confusing. {{User|Zero777}} | ||
::Really? All you need to do is find the time in GMT (which for you I heard you mention is +8 hours for you) then check the date. Go forward two weeks from that date and end at 23:59 or 24:00 GMT. Rule 2 on the proposal page can be a little confusing, I had to read it a few times before I got what it was saying. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 10:34, 7 April 2011 (EDT) | ::Really? All you need to do is find the time in GMT (which for you I heard you mention is +8 hours for you) then check the date. Go forward two weeks from that date and end at 23:59 or 24:00 GMT. Rule 2 on the proposal page can be a little confusing, I had to read it a few times before I got what it was saying. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 10:34, 7 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
:::I just have my date and time preferences set to the server default and look at RecentChanges to keep track of what time it is in GMT. For the deadline, I just look at a calendar and go straight down the day column two weeks; adding 14 days to the date also works if you're not crossing into another month (in this case, 3 + 14 = 17). The only potentially confusing part of Rule 2 (imho) is the stuff about rounding the voting start time, which doesn't apply to TPPs. I added specific dates to the Rule 2 example to try and make it a bit better, and I added a deadline example to TPP Rule 3 too. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 11:13, 7 April 2011 (EDT) | :::I just have my date and time preferences set to the server default and look at RecentChanges to keep track of what time it is in GMT. For the deadline, I just look at a calendar and go straight down the day column two weeks; adding 14 days to the date also works if you're not crossing into another month (in this case, 3 + 14 = 17). The only potentially confusing part of Rule 2 (imho) is the stuff about rounding the voting start time, which doesn't apply to TPPs. I added specific dates to the Rule 2 example to try and make it a bit better, and I added a deadline example to TPP Rule 3 too. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 11:13, 7 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
::::That works too, my point with Rule 2 is that people seem to have a hard time applying the differences between their time and GMT. Most of the incorrect end times seem to be because people forget to convert to GMT... I think I saw a place on the wiki that listed the differences between GMT and other time zones, maybe a link to that page would help. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 13:09, 7 April 2011 (EDT) | ::::That works too, my point with Rule 2 is that people seem to have a hard time applying the differences between their time and GMT. Most of the incorrect end times seem to be because people forget to convert to GMT... I think I saw a place on the wiki that listed the differences between GMT and other time zones, maybe a link to that page would help. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 13:09, 7 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
:::::I think that would be a good idea, though I have one question: Why does the wiki use GMT in the first place? {{User:Mario4Ever/Sig}} 03:23, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | :::::I think that would be a good idea, though I have one question: Why does the wiki use GMT in the first place? {{User:Mario4Ever/Sig}} 03:23, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
::::::I think it's because of the time facility in Greenwich, England. They count the Earth's rotation and it's supposed to be extremely accurate. I'm not really the person to ask this, as I never cared until I came to the wiki and ''had'' to care. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 09:12, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | ::::::I think it's because of the time facility in Greenwich, England. They count the Earth's rotation and it's supposed to be extremely accurate. I'm not really the person to ask this, as I never cared until I came to the wiki and ''had'' to care. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 09:12, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
:::::::No, it's because we're an International wiki, and GMT is the standard one used all over the world (hence it's the server default); we used to use EST/EDT, but that was considered too America-centric (and daylight savings time muddled the issue pretty badly). [[MarioWiki:Proposals/ | :::::::No, it's because we're an International wiki, and GMT is the standard one used all over the world (hence it's the server default); we used to use EST/EDT, but that was considered too America-centric (and daylight savings time muddled the issue pretty badly). [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_19#Use_GMT_for_all_events.2C_deadlines.2C_and_dates|Here's the proposal that had is start using GMT.]] We use one time zone to regulate when voting ends so proposals don't randomly disappear all the time and confuse people; [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Proposals&oldid=176679 that's how it's always been done]. As for people having trouble converting to GMT, it's not complicated ''at all'': just memorize how many hours are added or removed for your time zone. For me, EST is GMT-5; the only confusing bit is when we switch to EDT, which is GMT-4, but that's why I've got my preferences set to GMT - to double-check times if I'm ever a bit unsure of myself. Daylight savings time issues aside, asking people to memorize ''one'' addition or subtraction equation is ''not'' unreasonable, and folks can just Google search "GMT" to find out their time zone's offset (the first website is a conversion page, the first image result is a map, etc.), so we shouldn't even need a page of conversions here. We ''could'' always link to one of the many Wikipedia articles dealing with time zones, tho; [[wikipedia:List_of_time_zone_abbreviations|this one]] has a nice chart, for example, and [[wikipedia:List_of_time_zones_by_UTC_offset|this]] has a map, although you need to view it at full resolution in order to read it. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 10:12, 8 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
'''@Kaptain K. Rool:''' Yeah, I know they are part of the cast. What is the point you're trying to make. {{User|Zero777}} | '''@Kaptain K. Rool:''' Yeah, I know they are part of the cast. What is the point you're trying to make. {{User|Zero777}} | ||
:That they are both a part of he cast and we don't need two separate articles about the cast. {{User|Kaptain K. Rool}} | :That they are both a part of he cast and we don't need two separate articles about the cast. {{User|Kaptain K. Rool}} | ||
::He's referring to [[ | ::He's referring to [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl/Staff]] and your proposed new article I think. {{User:Bowser's luma/sig}} | ||
I was trying to make a point but his idea is better. | I was trying to make a point but his idea is better. | ||
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::Alright, '''may a staff delete this.''' {{User|Zero777}} | ::Alright, '''may a staff delete this.''' {{User|Zero777}} | ||
:::Done. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 18:10, 15 April 2011 (EDT) | :::Done. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 18:10, 15 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
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I say we split the music staff and voice cast sections and merge them into the staff sub-articles. One reason, this article is ENORMOUS and we need to down size it a bit, and also it seems like the proposal to merge the Subspace Emissary back into the article looks like it is going to succeed and it will make the article enormous-er. | I say we split the music staff and voice cast sections and merge them into the staff sub-articles. One reason, this article is ENORMOUS and we need to down size it a bit, and also it seems like the proposal to merge the Subspace Emissary back into the article looks like it is going to succeed and it will make the article enormous-er. | ||
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'''Proposer''': {{User|Zero777}}<br> | '''Proposer''': {{User|Zero777}}<br> | ||
'''Deadline''': May 1, 2011, 23:59 GMT | '''Deadline''': May 1, 2011, 23:59 GMT | ||
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:@Zero: You'd better change the proposal now, unless you want the proposal removed '''again''' and to re-list it... By April 32, did you mean May 2? I must've missed the universal calendar changes... {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 14:56, 17 April 2011 (EDT) | :@Zero: You'd better change the proposal now, unless you want the proposal removed '''again''' and to re-list it... By April 32, did you mean May 2? I must've missed the universal calendar changes... {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 14:56, 17 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
::I actually changed the deadline to May 1. Using 24:00 [[wikipedia:24-hour_clock#Midnight_00:00_and_24:00|''should'' be perfectly fine]], but if folks are going to keep changing it to 0:00 the next day (which is NOT allowed, as it messes up the nice +14 days motif), it's best to simply use 23:59. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 15:48, 18 April 2011 (EDT) | ::I actually changed the deadline to May 1. Using 24:00 [[wikipedia:24-hour_clock#Midnight_00:00_and_24:00|''should'' be perfectly fine]], but if folks are going to keep changing it to 0:00 the next day (which is NOT allowed, as it messes up the nice +14 days motif), it's best to simply use 23:59. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 15:48, 18 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
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I say we merge all of the subspace emissary levels into one article kirby9612 | I say we merge all of the subspace emissary levels into one article kirby9612 | ||
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Oh! Just thought of something. The people who performed vocally on the songs should be listed under the voices, not the music arrangement credits, following the example set here: http://www.ssbwiki.com/List_of_voice_actors -[[User:Dogman15|Dogman15]] 20:19, 1 July 2011 (EDT) | Oh! Just thought of something. The people who performed vocally on the songs should be listed under the voices, not the music arrangement credits, following the example set here: http://www.ssbwiki.com/List_of_voice_actors -[[User:Dogman15|Dogman15]] 20:19, 1 July 2011 (EDT) | ||