Editing Talk:Super Paper Mario

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To sum it up, Mario is not the same loveable game series as it used to be...
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[[User:TurtleShroom|TurtleShroom! :)]] <sup>†</sup>Jesus Loves You and Died for you!<sup>†</sup> 19:46, 7 January 2008 (EST)
:While the plot elements may be cliche, I do not think any dark themes are forecast by it, nor that Nintendo wished to drive in that direction. And gamers are demanding believable and complex story plots for these big games, now that technology has made it all possible. In the 90s, it was just good & evil because just playing the game was fun, the story didn't matter. In these ''Paper Mario'' games, a good story keeps the player interested in an otherwise truly-2D game. However, the storys are just supposed to keep the game together &ndash; collect it all into a sensible purpose for the whole experience. You shouldn't take this as such as seriously as you are, and while maybe E10+ might have been appropriate for this game more, certainly not T &ndash; no blood violence or sex mentioned. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 20:03, 7 January 2008 (EST)
::Pretty much what Wayoshi said; while the "Mario goes off to save a kingdom and a damsel" plot was good early on, now that technology has improved, people want more than that (complex plots and twists, sub-plots, more threatening villains, etc). Nintendo pretty much has no choice but to give the public what they want (but not make it themselves apparently, they have other developers do it for them, like Intelligent Systems, creator of the ''Paper Marios'' and ''Fire Emblems''). -- [[User:Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]] 20:18, 7 January 2008 (EST)
:::I understand your point, but I am not against a good story, just the details. When the origanel [[Paper Mario]] came out, the "star granting wishes" beginning never bothered me, despite the fact that when the characters make a wish, it looks like they are praying. That is not what I mean. I mean what ''this'' one has gone to. Yes, the Mario universe had a beginning, but I would have better enjoyed something to the lines of the stars made their world, and leave it that, not this whole "prophecy" thing. As a religous person, I believe phrophecy should stay in religous texts like the Bible. Still, I think what you said is true. I just miss the villans who had a heart every once and a while.
[[User:TurtleShroom|TurtleShroom! :)]] <sup>†</sup>Jesus Loves You and Died for you!<sup>†</sup> 20:08, 10 January 2008 (EST)
:It's just a game! In response to your statement about Pokémon, the book in the Canalave Library explains the ''supposed'' creation of the ''Pokémon'' universe. It has nothing to do with our universe, and it in no way contradicts the Bible. [[User:Pixl|Pixl]] 08:21, 30 January 2008 (EST)

== Sigh... ==
Super Paper Mario is still for the GameCube! At least, that's what ALL the game sites I've been to say. Should we wait awhile for a confirmation, or go ahead and add it to the Cube games section?!? [[User: 3dejong|3dejong]]
:Nintendo may or may not have updated its site to reflect a change to the Wii. I'd wait for a confirmation. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php/Special:Random http://www.mariowiki.com/images/2/24/Wayoshisig.png]</span> 15:55, 10 October 2006 (EDT)

==Mummy?==
From the picture in Nintendo power i wouldnt say that he is a mummy but rather a ninja type fellow with a white face and wierd arms.--[[User:Widkid85|Widkid85]] 18:19, 11 March 2007 (EDT)

== New Story Info ==

[http://www.gamespot.com/wii/rpg/superpapermario/news.html?sid=6168033&tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot Read if you're a PM fan like me!] {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 22:33, 24 March 2007 (EDT)
:WHOO! BEST ARTICLE YET! {{User:3dejong/sig|YAY!}}

Wayoshi, don't post stuff like this, you know that... You didn't post it to help further the wiki.... That's not very Gavin-like.{{User:HK-47/sig}}

== Preorders? ==

Anybody preordered this game? I preordered it yesterday, and can't wait to have it. Just a curiosity question. --[[User:Kelt|General Kelty]] 23:30, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

== New video good quality video! ==

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=mov&id=18201

Check it out!

And with that, poof, I'm gone! --[[User:Bentendo|Bentendo]] 18:02, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

== enemy section? ==

im thinking that someone should add an enemy section to the super paper mario article.........cuz i know ALOT of enemies from the videos like the jawbus, squiglets, and gromebas 
[[User:NintendoFan|NintendoFan]] 20:46, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

== Jester-like creature: enemy or boss? ==

I saw on http://www.gamesradar.com/us/wii/game/reviews/article.jsp?articleId=20070330102557989000&sectionId=1000&pageId=20070330103441328028 (in a video) that there is a place with very many Jester-like creatures (Like the Dull Bones and Smorgs). Thus they are enemies. And I saw on the official japanese site in the story that there is only one.
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:I'm pretty sure he's a boss, especially if his name really is Dimentio (someone posted the boss list on GameFAQs).  The hundreds and hundreds of him is probably just a move he does in the game. [[User:UrsulaBoi|UrsulaBoi]] 13:29, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

::Either way, all we have to do is wait a couple of days and we'll find out. No need to rush information when it is so close to our fingers.--[[User:Kelt|General Kelty]] 17:48, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
:::I saw a boss battle against him in the Gamespot marathon yesterday. He does in fact create illusions of himself. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 18:01, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

== Ownership ==

Who (managed) to get this game today? [[User:Maxlover2|Max2]] 14:15, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

I'm so bummed. They were sold out. I should have preordered it. =[ {{User:Monty Mole/sig}}

I wanted it, but even without it, we can make the articles present tense.{{User:HK-47/sig}}

I was asking so someone who HAS it could add more info. {{User:Maxlover2/sig}}

I got it today, I'm on chapter 2.  :) I'll try to add more info to character profiles and such (already made Mimi and King Croacus). [[User:UrsulaBoi|UrsulaBoi]] 18:03, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

:I've had it since yesterday; I'll start contributing after I've played more of it. --[[User:Kelt|General Kelty]] 22:56, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

:Got it today. On Chapter 3. {{User:Monty Mole/sig}}

Gonna get it tommorow. {{User:Plumber/sig}} 22:53, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

== Players guide ==

Does someone have the PG? I can't get it 'cause I live in the Netherlands.
You can pre-order it at http://www.nintendopower.com.[[User:Freekhenstra|FH]]

I just pre-ordered it at ebay, I think i will get it within 2 weeks. [[User:Freekhenstra|FH]]

:I have it. <big> '''[[Thief Wario|Silent but deadly!]]''' '''Super'''''[[User:Super Luigi 821|Luigi]]'''''821''''' '''''[[Fracktail|You lost everything. Way to go genious.]]''' </big>

::Great!  Scan the picture in it of Queen Jaydes!  I would, but I'm overly protective of mine...  Got mine the day after SPM came out. ^_^ Didn't use it until I beat the game, though. {{unsigned|Dreyfus2006}}

::Sigh...if my scanner was working...BTW the picture of Jaydes in Page 96 would come out TOO JPGish. Maybe there's a picture of her somewhere on the net. I may be wrong. <big> '''[[Thief Wario|Silent but deadly!]]''' '''Super'''''[[User:Super Luigi 821|Luigi]]'''''821''''' '''''[[Fracktail|You lost everything. Way to go genious.]]''' </big>

:::Drat, I was afraid of that...  Hopefully.  Not much appears to be updated with SPM art, though...  Maybe if there is art of Queen Jaydes, there may be art of King Grambi?  Wasn't in the guide, but there's a chance...--[[User:Dreyfus2006|Dreyfus2006]] 14:19, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

== Beaten ==
I'm sure I'm not the first person, but now at least I can answer questions for you guys.
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:Does Yoshi ever appear in the game. {{User:Bentendo/sig}}

::I think I beat the game two weeks ago or something.  But no, with the exception of a Catch Card Yoshi makes no appearance whatsoever (and that Catch Card is just the Yoshi Kid).  Otherwise, there isn't even a cameo.--[[User:Dreyfus2006|Dreyfus2006]] 23:09, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Could you add information to [[Soccer Brother]] ?

[[User:Gofer|Gofer]]

When editing about this game be sure to mark your spoilers carefully. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 16:13, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

Yoshi doesn't appear in the game, but a rock that looks like him does, and references to Yoshi's Island are made in the Sammer Kingdom. {{unsigned|Forai}}

I saw that in the Player's Guide. Also a Yoshi kid card can be catched and Yoshi Kid dolls appear. {{User:Paper Jorge/sig|EEK SPOILERS.}}

== Meowmaids and Meowbombs ==

I can't find a picture of meowmaids (the others were actually meowbombs, not meowmaids), can someone tell me a good site for game screenshots? {{User:Beanbean/sig}}

==Good resource for Paper Mario item pics==
I found a place with pics of all of the items in the Paper Mario games. If you want to see go [http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/n64/papermario/items.shtml here] (most are from Paper Mario one and two, ){{User:Beanbean/sig}}

I'll just point out that [[Badges]] uses these images from both PM games. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 19:57, 27 April 2007 (EDT)

== Complete Item List ==

Since the item list was missing most of the items, I have added everything except for the Recipes. ~ [[User:LordKenny|LordKenny]]

== [[Audience]] ==
Ha ha, very funny. The Audience appeared in [[ttyd]] to, ya know. {{User:isyou/sig}}

:The article would be split of course Isyou. ;) -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]

Oh... never thought of that. Good point, I guess... {{User:isyou/sig}}

Even still, I find that it merits its own article. A Link to the Past has been acting very "funny", though. {{user:yellowYoshi398/sig}}

he is just very strict that things be ''perfect'' around here. {{User:isyou/sig}}

Guys, he does have valid points. You don't have to agree with them, but he is working to make the wiki better. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]
:It's a game mechanic. If it's separate, TTYD won't be featured because the content is not included. If you basically have the audience mentioned in both the Audience article and the TTYD article, then it's duplicate content and there is no point in having an article. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 22:34, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

::I think The [[Audience]] article should remain seperate, for it's own sake. - [[User:Smashgoom202|Smashgoom202]] 15:04, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
:::This is exactly what I talk about when I say "separating articles makes two inferior articles, while keeping them together makes one greater article". And in this case, the Audience is just a gameplay feature of these two games, and separating them just damages the more important articles. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 15:21, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

Hey, guys. I just want to say that the audience had nothing to do with the gameplay of Super Paper Mario. They just came whenever the players did stylish moves. Nothing else. No helping, no hindering. They were only paper cut-outs anyway! Oh, and by the way, I have another topic on the "Whose Better..." section of my userpage, in case anyone's interested.

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They increased the amount of points you gained in Super paper Mario, I call that affecting gameplay. -- [[User: Sir Grodus|Sir Grodus]]

== Arcade Mini-Games ==

Shouldn't there be a section that mentions the Arcade Mini Games you can play in this game? {{User:Beanbean/sig}} 20:23, 3 June 2007 (EDT) PS, I found a pic of the Arcade in SPM.
:That sounds good. {{User:Great Gonzo/sig}}

Ok. {{User:Beanbean/sig}}
==Glitch==
Why did this show up on the list of uncategorized pages?{{User:HK-47/sig}}
:I think I fixed it, all I did was eliminate the spaces...{{User:Great Gonzo/sig}}
::Nice job GG, its off the list.{{User:HK-47/sig}}

== Wedding Scene script ==

Does anyone know where I can find a script for the wedding scene? Thanks--[[User:YOSHIANDLINK1|YOSHIANDLINK1]] 09:52, 1 July 2007 (EDT)

== Chapter 7: Too many religous refrences ==
The problem I found on many pages of this article were mentioning Hell and other religous things. Bonechill's Triva says something about a passage in the Bible, and this is a family friendly site. I don't think religon should be included, minus Greek myths. On The Underwhere, someone said that it was like Hell. This is not true, because you when you die in the game you go there no matter what, even if you have been good. Hell is only for bad people. There is no evidence in the game you go to The Overthere for being good. I think these should be removed, or at least replaced. We don't need serious topics like religon on this site.

And before you ask, I am Catholic. {{User|Anti Dude}}
:''Super Paper Mario'' makes several clever references to religous topics. We can't conceal that, it's obvious. Err, and I don't understand your point what makes a site family unfriendly if one makes ''a few'' references to religion. If we had to clean the site from every roughly religous reference, we also had to remove the fact that [[Ashley and Red|Red]] and [[Akuman]] are devils and that [[Wicked Wario]] looks like one, for example. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 13:53, 17 April 2008 (EDT)

== Enemy Images==
A lot of the enemy articles for this game feature low-quality, catch card images in the enemy's infobox.  If possible, could someone upload some high-quality, non-catch card images of these various enemies and place them in their respective articles?  It'd be nice to have clearer images of all these enemies. -- {{User|Son of Suns}}

== "Super Paper Mario", the movie? ==

[http://www.gwn.com/news/story.php/id/14249/Super_Paper_Mario_The_Movie.html Here.] This was posted in October 7th of 2007 after the launch of the game (which is around April 2007). Can someone write this mention in the article please? {{User:RAP/sig}} [[Special:Contributions/RAP|I would be glad if it did. :3]]
 If it ever DID come to pass, I'd be first in line for Lord Blumiere/Count Bleck!... But, since the the last anyone's heard about this is in 07, one can only assume that the idea was scraped, and the remains are in Prof.Frankly's trash can.XD [[User:Shadow Master|Shadow Master]] 09:39, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

== Holy Crap, Shy Guys, Wigglers in SPM? ==

I was on the Spriter's Resource looking at the SPM section, and I saw something. It had sprites for Monty Mole, Shy Guy, Fly Guy, Spear Guy, and Wiggler. My question is, is this legit? The link in question: http://spriters-resource.com/other_systems/superpapermario/

--[[User:BubbleRevolution]]
:No, it is probably not legitimate. There are many clever spriters and artists out there who can and will make images of characters who did not appear in a game in the graphical design of that game. They do not have any sources for the sprites themselves, do they? {{User:Super Paper Mario Bros./sig}} 16:26, 19 September 2009 (EDT)

==Sequel?==
This is something that's been on my mind for quite a while. In the trivia section, it said that Merlon and Nolrem stated that the Void wouldn't completely disappear after Count Bleck and/or Super Dimentio were defeated, which apparently hinted at a ''Super Paper Mario'' sequel. So, my question is, exactly when and where was that ever said in the game? I've played through the game at least sixteen times, and I haven't once read anything like that.

-{{User|SolarBlaze}} 20:33, 30 November 2009 EDT

:Per Solarblaze, I ever heard about that...it's probably some speculation.--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}
::I've never heard this either, but there are a few hints in the game on a possible sequel to SPM. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}

I know this is over two years old, but heres my message anyway:
I never got further than Chapter 2-2, coz my game broke, but as there is a new Paper Mario coming out on the 3DS, has anyone considered this could be a sequel.
Thats my outlook anyway.
--[[User:Smileymiley5001|=D Smileymiley5001 =D]] 14:29, 29 March 2011 (EDT)

== Mario's House ==

When in the game do you see Mario's house with the pictures of his past partners? The article says during the beginning of the game, but the only time you're in the house is the cutscene at the beginning. Is there a part of the game where you can explore the house?--[[User:Shadow34|Shadow34]] 19:33, 27 April 2010 (EDT)[[User:Shadow34|Shadow34]]

== New Pixls ==

I thought there is going to be a [http://kalidassa.deviantart.com/art/Super-Paper-Mario-Yoshi-Pixl-82466130 Yoshi Pixl] in the future for Wii U.
Did it think this throws eggs or maybe swallows things??? {{User:Devanwolf/sig}}
:That's not a creation of Nintendo. That's fan-made and unofficial. It says as much in the description. {{User:Mario4Ever/sig}}

== It's back ==

Super Paper Mario was just released as a "Nintendo Selects" and it is back in stores for $20! --[[File:YoshiMP8a.PNG|35px]] [[User:SuperYoshiBros|<span style=color:blue>Super</span>]][[User talk:SuperYoshiBros|Yoshi]][[Special:Contributions/SuperYoshiBros|Bros]] [[File:YoshiMP8a.PNG|35px]] 12:39, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

== Locations of enemies MISSING!!!!  ==

I've noticed that most of the enemy boxes are missing their locations. Please put them!!! --[[User:Mario24|Mario24]] 20:11, 9 October 2011 (EDT)

== My edits ==

Are my edits completely invalid, or should they be on a separate page? [[User:PoisonMushroom|PoisonMushroom]] 16:20, 18 December 2011 (EST)
:I've been removing them since they've been redundant, unnecessary, or not what we consider a reference of this type. Those sections are for when it seems that Nintendo has been ''purposefully'' referencing older content when making games only. {{User:Bop1996/sig}}