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== Merge [[Super Mushroom (healing item)]] and the old ''Mario Party'' [[Golden Mushroom]]? == | == Merge [[Super Mushroom (healing item)]] and the old ''Mario Party'' [[Golden Mushroom]]? == | ||
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So something I honestly must ask is why the [[Super Mushroom (healing item)|Super Mushroom]]s from the RPG games are a separate page from this, given they have the same name in both English and Japanese. It's not like we consider those games' basic Mushrooms to be the same as these instead; rather, we treat them as the same as [[Mushroom|the item from ''Super Mario Bros. 2'', the ''Mario Kart'' games, and a whole bunch of other things]]. The different purpose isn't solid reasoning either, not only due to the aforementioned Mushroom page, but Super Mushroom's contemporary, [[Fire Flower]], also has a vastly different function between games across genres, particularly the RPGs. As for the color in the PM games, so? It was orange with red spots originally, and again bringing up Fire Flower, it didn't get its current design until the Bro Flower in ''Partners in Time'', not being used for anything specifically called "Fire Flower" until ''New Super Mario Bros.'' in '''''2006''''', 21 years after its initial introduction. | So something I honestly must ask is why the [[Super Mushroom (healing item)|Super Mushroom]]s from the RPG games are a separate page from this, given they have the same name in both English and Japanese. It's not like we consider those games' basic Mushrooms to be the same as these instead; rather, we treat them as the same as [[Mushroom|the item from ''Super Mario Bros. 2'', the ''Mario Kart'' games, and a whole bunch of other things]]. The different purpose isn't solid reasoning either, not only due to the aforementioned Mushroom page, but Super Mushroom's contemporary, [[Fire Flower]], also has a vastly different function between games across genres, particularly the RPGs. As for the color in the PM games, so? It was orange with red spots originally, and again bringing up Fire Flower, it didn't get its current design until the Bro Flower in ''Partners in Time'', not being used for anything specifically called "Fire Flower" until ''New Super Mario Bros.'' in '''''2006''''', 21 years after its initial introduction. | ||
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::Broque, not to sound rude, but rather than ask if the items themselves do that, ask if the games have those things. Do you have HP in Mario Party or the Mario Platformers? Do you roll dice in the RPGS and the Platformers? Do you break [https://www.mariowiki.com/Brick_Block Brick Blocks] in the RPGS and Mario Party? [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 16:52, July 13, 2021 (EDT) | ::Broque, not to sound rude, but rather than ask if the items themselves do that, ask if the games have those things. Do you have HP in Mario Party or the Mario Platformers? Do you roll dice in the RPGS and the Platformers? Do you break [https://www.mariowiki.com/Brick_Block Brick Blocks] in the RPGS and Mario Party? [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 16:52, July 13, 2021 (EDT) | ||
::You might as well say that [[Blue Coin]]s from ''Super Mario Sunshine'' should be split because that's the only game where they're a finite collectible instead of being worth 1 or 5 regular coins, or [[Warp Pipe Orb]]s from ''Mario Party 7'' should be split for having a different function from the previous games. Or that [[Shine Sprite]]s in ''Thousand-Year Door'' should be split because they aren't used to power up partners in any other game. Difference in function ''alone'', especially between games in ''different genres'', does not warrant a split. Especially when you don't even get your facts right: Super Mushrooms ''do'' restore health, both in ''Super Mario'' and in other games such as ''Yoshi's Safari'' and ''Luigi's Mansion'' 3DS. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 18:22, July 13, 2021 (EDT) | ::You might as well say that [[Blue Coin]]s from ''Super Mario Sunshine'' should be split because that's the only game where they're a finite collectible instead of being worth 1 or 5 regular coins, or [[Warp Pipe Orb]]s from ''Mario Party 7'' should be split for having a different function from the previous games. Or that [[Shine Sprite]]s in ''Thousand-Year Door'' should be split because they aren't used to power up partners in any other game. Difference in function ''alone'', especially between games in ''different genres'', does not warrant a split. Especially when you don't even get your facts right: Super Mushrooms ''do'' restore health, both in ''Super Mario'' and in other games such as ''Yoshi's Safari'' and ''Luigi's Mansion'' 3DS. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 18:22, July 13, 2021 (EDT) | ||
== Merge [[Super Mushroom (healing item)]] here == | == Merge [[Super Mushroom (healing item)]] here == | ||
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See above. This is clearly the same subject in a different genre, which occasional color variation to differentiate it from the occasional "basic" mushroom. And considering Super Mushroom wasn't even red until ''Super Mario World'', I don't think that's that big of a deal. I have seen some support for merging "normal" Mushroom here instead, though that comes off as arbitrarily picking-and-choosing in defiance of official terminology, which is a slippery slope I want to avoid. | See above. This is clearly the same subject in a different genre, which occasional color variation to differentiate it from the occasional "basic" mushroom. And considering Super Mushroom wasn't even red until ''Super Mario World'', I don't think that's that big of a deal. I have seen some support for merging "normal" Mushroom here instead, though that comes off as arbitrarily picking-and-choosing in defiance of official terminology, which is a slippery slope I want to avoid. | ||
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The link to the Golden Mushroom proposal is broken BTW [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 11:21, July 23, 2021 (EDT) | The link to the Golden Mushroom proposal is broken BTW [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 11:21, July 23, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:I fixed it. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 13:55, July 23, 2021 (EDT) | :I fixed it. {{User:Keyblade Master/sig}} 13:55, July 23, 2021 (EDT) | ||