Editing Talk:Super Mario Strikers

== Super Team ==
We'd need an image to represent the Super Team in the table. I know there's no official artwork for them, but we should at least have a screenshot which shows a Super Team robot (without background or site logo like on [[Super Team|their page]]). - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:46, 22 August 2007 (EDT)

== Why is this not under "Super Mario Strikers"? ==
This is the title of the American and Japanese version...two versions. While "Mario Smash Football" is the name of one version of the game. It should be under the name it was originally released as. Not the name it has in one country. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:23, 27 February 2009 (EST)
:According to our rules, we use the first English title (see [[Help:Article#Naming an Article|here]] for more details), and "Mario Smash Football" was the first name used. There was a proposal about this a few days or weeks ago. {{User:Time Q/sig}} 15:42, 27 February 2009 (EST)
::So, this is an American website. Use the one most people know, the AMERICAN name--[[User:Pectoralz|Pectoralz]] 13:34, 8 November 2009 (EST)
:::We had a discussion over this a long time ago. We had a vote and people voted for the rule TimeQ mentioned. There's no need in bringing it up again. If you insist, you can create a new [[MarioWiki:Proposals|Proposal]] about it. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:45, 8 November 2009 (EST)

The ''Mario Strikers'' games are obviously the games where people complain the most about the name difference. And it's actually understandable: While both games were released first in Europe, they were created in Anglo-America (more specifically Canada), where association football is known as soccer. And even if they were developed in Japan, it would be no different. So in terms of game titles, maybe we could make exceptions from the rule when the title in an English-speaking region is either exactly the same as or a literal translation of the original title? With original title I mean the title used in the region where the game was created (North America in this case, but in most cases Japan). But really only if they are the same, no determining what title is "closer" to the original one (is ''Barrel Blast'' or ''Jet Race'' closer to ''Barrel Jet Race'', I don't know), and also not using different version names for objects in a single game (e.g. vehicles and courses in ''Mario Kart Wii'' should stay as they are, even if some American names are closer to the Japanese names), that would cause just too much confusion. What do you think? Just a suggestion. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 08:22, 22 November 2009 (EST)
:Or what about something much less complicated: When the game has been developed in an English-speaking country (only goes for very few ''Mario'' games), use the title from that region. So for the ''Mario Strikers'' games (developed in Canada), the American title would be used, while for a game created in the UK, the European one would be chosen. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 15:09, 20 January 2010 (EST)
::That sounds very random to me. Most users are not familiar with the region the game has been developed in, and I think a naming system should be clear and easy to understand. So using the first release of the game is the most elegant option in my opinion.- {{User:Cobold/sig}} 15:28, 20 January 2010 (EST)
:::I agree with Cobold here. Exceptions make things more difficult to understand, and a clear standard looks better here IMHO. - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 15:39, 20 January 2010 (EST)
::::Okay, just a suggestion. I'm perfectly fine with the current system, but I also understand the complains made by some users for explained reasons. Anyway, I'm glad that we don't have naming wars like at Wikipedia ([[wikipedia:Talk:Wario_Land:_The_Shake_Dimension#Requested_move|example]]). ;-) --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 15:41, 20 January 2010 (EST)

As one of the people who was around when this first got brought up, allow me to impart this advice: Just don't worry about it. Whenever you start to think about it, turn off the computer and go water skiing until you stop. Otherwise.... "shudder". - [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]] (Now I disappear for another year)

==Stop...... [a lot of] Mergeing Time==
{{TPP}}
I say we merge all the fields from Super Mario Strikers into one article called "Fields (MSF)". See all of the field articles are stubs and even though there is a chance that they might reappear in a future sequal of the Mario Strikers series, when that happen just one sentance is added to the article (*name of the field* also reappear in *third game of Mario Striker series*). So mergeing all of them will not be a bad idea.

'''Proposer:''' {{User|Zero777}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' 11 August, 2010, 24:00

====Support====
#{{User|Zero777}} I am Zero! Per proposal. Zero signing out.
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per proposal.

====Oppose====
#{{User|Fawfulfury65}} Different places, different articles. They ''can'' be unstubbed.
#{{User|Yoshi's Island}} Per Fawfulfury65.
#{{User|Booderdash}}, completly differnet things.
#{{User|MrConcreteDonkey}} They are all different, plus some appear in the Wii version. If they are stubs, then other things can be added. Merging these would be as dumb as merging all of the Mario Kart courses.

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 == Super Team ==
 We'd need an image to represent the Super Team in the table. I know there's no official artwork for them, but we should at least have a screenshot which shows a Super Team robot (without background or site logo like on [[Super Team|their page]]). - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:46, 22 August 2007 (EDT)
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 As one of the people who was around when this first got brought up, allow me to impart this advice: Just don't worry about it. Whenever you start to think about it, turn off the computer and go water skiing until you stop. Otherwise.... "shudder". - [[User:Ultimatetoad|Ultimatetoad]] (Now I disappear for another year)
-:I propose that this page should be under the US title and not the Europe title!!!! The dead line is March 1st!!!! [[User:DK Fan]]
 ==Stop...... [a lot of] Mergeing Time==
-{{Proposal outcome|red|Don't Merge 2-11}}
+{{TPP}}
-{{Settled TPP}}
 I say we merge all the fields from Super Mario Strikers into one article called "Fields (MSF)". See all of the field articles are stubs and even though there is a chance that they might reappear in a future sequal of the Mario Strikers series, when that happen just one sentance is added to the article (*name of the field* also reappear in *third game of Mario Striker series*). So mergeing all of them will not be a bad idea.
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 #{{User|Booderdash}}, completly differnet things.
 #{{User|MrConcreteDonkey}} They are all different, plus some appear in the Wii version. If they are stubs, then other things can be added. Merging these would be as dumb as merging all of the Mario Kart courses.
-#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per all.
-#{{user|Tucayo}} - Per all
-#{{User|Reversinator}} Per all.
-#{{User|Tomz123}} Per all.
-#{{user|Bloc Partier}} - Per all.
-#{{User|Gamefreak75}} - Per all.
-#{{User|Fuzzipede27}} - Per all.
 ====Comment====
-''If they are stubs, then other things can be added.'' I have seen this in many proposals that involve merging. If this is the case, then someone should unstubify them instead of making a statement without taking action. {{unsigned|Mario4Ever}}
-==No controversy?==
-In my opinion, I understand why this game is rated E 10 and up. But shouldn't those issues be reported as controversy? Yet, this is the cause of inappropriate fan-art. Kids. Hiding inappropriate stuff from their parents. Same goes for [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl|SSBB]]. Can anyone explain why Nintendo would include Mario characters and re-do their models to make the more inapproriate? [[User:Kirby kart|Kirby kart]]