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==Different physics?==
==Different physics?==
Even though the article says that changing styles changes the physics, I'm not so sure, especially in the Super Mario Bros. 3 style.  
Even though the article says that changing styles changes the physics, I'm not so sure, especially in the Super Mario Bros. 3 style.  
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==Proposal: what to do about all those sub-enemies?==
==Proposal: what to do about all those sub-enemies?==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{SettledTPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|failed|0-15-5-0|don't create articles}}
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|0-15-5-0|don't create articles}}


Let's nip this in the bud, shall we? With all the variety of enemy modifications, the question of whether or not we should give articles for all of these combinations has come up. On one hand, there have been many, ''many'' enemy subspecies over the years that basically constitute as "this enemy +1 height" or "this enemy but with a tail", and we're no stranger to giving them individual articles. On the other hand, none of these enemies are officially named or even recognized (there's no "Para-Spiny", "Para-Buzzy", "Para-Blooper", etc., but rather the ability to add wings to various enemies). <s>I'm personally for having individual articles (though I do have a bit of trepidation about the "Giant Para-X Tower" and whatnot that will seemingly just retread all the other info)</s> (the opposition has very good points, but I want to see how the suggested compromises pan out), but regardless, there's already been a few arguments about it, and I think it's best to decide what to do before the game comes out.
Let's nip this in the bud, shall we? With all the variety of enemy modifications, the question of whether or not we should give articles for all of these combinations has come up. On one hand, there have been many, ''many'' enemy subspecies over the years that basically constitute as "this enemy +1 height" or "this enemy but with a tail", and we're no stranger to giving them individual articles. On the other hand, none of these enemies are officially named or even recognized (there's no "Para-Spiny", "Para-Buzzy", "Para-Blooper", etc., but rather the ability to add wings to various enemies). <s>I'm personally for having individual articles (though I do have a bit of trepidation about the "Giant Para-X Tower" and whatnot that will seemingly just retread all the other info)</s> (the opposition has very good points, but I want to see how the suggested compromises pan out), but regardless, there's already been a few arguments about it, and I think it's best to decide what to do before the game comes out.
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== Proposal: Articles for Para-Enemies ==
== Proposal: Articles for Para-Enemies ==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{SettledTPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|red|FAILED 1-11}}
{{ProposalOutcome|red|FAILED 1-11}}


I know that the last one failed. But now we have seen that ''"an enemy but with wings"'' actually behaves differently to its normal counterpart (e.g. the Para-Clown Copter has a more jerky and random path, as opposed to drifting towards Mario, or a Para-Thwomp flies horizontally across the level until it is above Mario, instead of staying in one place). The ''"enemy but on top of another enemy"'' and the ''"enemy but bigger"'' variations have little impact on the actual enemy, which is why we didn't create articles for each and every variation. So I'm suggesting that we make a Para-''X'' article for all enemies, mainly because they actually have major differences.  
I know that the last one failed. But now we have seen that ''"an enemy but with wings"'' actually behaves differently to its normal counterpart (e.g. the Para-Clown Copter has a more jerky and random path, as opposed to drifting towards Mario, or a Para-Thwomp flies horizontally across the level until it is above Mario, instead of staying in one place). The ''"enemy but on top of another enemy"'' and the ''"enemy but bigger"'' variations have little impact on the actual enemy, which is why we didn't create articles for each and every variation. So I'm suggesting that we make a Para-''X'' article for all enemies, mainly because they actually have major differences.  
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Should we add that every user-uploaded level was cleared? The feat was achieved recently by Team0% to beat all user-uploaded levels before Nintendo Network shut down. --[[User:OmegaRuby|OmegaRuby]] ([[User talk:OmegaRuby|talk]]) 09:41, March 25, 2024 (EDT)
Should we add that every user-uploaded level was cleared? The feat was achieved recently by Team0% to beat all user-uploaded levels before Nintendo Network shut down. --[[User:OmegaRuby|OmegaRuby]] ([[User talk:OmegaRuby|talk]]) 09:41, March 25, 2024 (EDT)
:Team 0% was brought up today on the Discord server, so I thought I'd leave my thoughts here. I think this would be a good point to include somewhere, whether in Trivia, Reception or a possible Legacy section - these level-completion efforts are no doubt a notable part of the game's legacy after all (even [[Takashi Tezuka]] has commented positively on the project!). It probably doesn't need to be covered very extensively due to the nonofficial nature of it, but it's certainly worth mentioning somewhere at least. [[User:Reese Rivers|Reese Rivers]] ([[User talk:Reese Rivers|talk]]) 15:24, January 20, 2025 (EST)
:We think it would be nice to mention in Reception, possibly in a "Legacy" sub-section. Given the feat at hand and the fact that it's received acknowledgement by Nintendo employees, it seems fair enough. If Homestar Runner can be name-dropped on [[Mario Paint]], why not Team 0% on here, right? {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 15:31, January 20, 2025 (EST)

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