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==Different physics?== | ==Different physics?== | ||
Even though the article says that changing styles changes the physics, I'm not so sure, especially in the Super Mario Bros. 3 style. | Even though the article says that changing styles changes the physics, I'm not so sure, especially in the Super Mario Bros. 3 style. | ||
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:::::::My apologies Yoshi876, that was an unintended implication. My complaint isn't due to the massive workload, I'm just unsure the massive quantities of enemies deserve a page. You see, an abundance of pages on one game will A) Create lots of stubs. I mean, we can't say more about Hammer Bro. Tower than Hammer Bros act exactly the same throwing hammers. Unique enmies like para-spinies that shoot spikes in cardinal directions would be great, but this many pages just seems like overkill coverage of the game. B) This game is going to make everything else look undercovered. And I have to go. But sorry for the offense Yoshi876, really sorry, I don't mean to hurt feelings.[[User:Toadbrigade5|Toadbrigade5]] ([[User talk:Toadbrigade5|talk]]) 16:00, 9 December 2014 (EST) | :::::::My apologies Yoshi876, that was an unintended implication. My complaint isn't due to the massive workload, I'm just unsure the massive quantities of enemies deserve a page. You see, an abundance of pages on one game will A) Create lots of stubs. I mean, we can't say more about Hammer Bro. Tower than Hammer Bros act exactly the same throwing hammers. Unique enmies like para-spinies that shoot spikes in cardinal directions would be great, but this many pages just seems like overkill coverage of the game. B) This game is going to make everything else look undercovered. And I have to go. But sorry for the offense Yoshi876, really sorry, I don't mean to hurt feelings.[[User:Toadbrigade5|Toadbrigade5]] ([[User talk:Toadbrigade5|talk]]) 16:00, 9 December 2014 (EST) | ||
::::::::That is alright, just some poor wording on your part, you can work on that for the future :P. Now, it won't create any stubs, stubs are articles that lack content, and those articles, whilst being small, would not be lacking articles. I don't see how it'd cause things to look undercovered. I'm sure many enemy variants do that. However, there was been a discussion on the forum, and the majority are opposed to the decision for them all to get full articles. {{User|Yoshi876}} | ::::::::That is alright, just some poor wording on your part, you can work on that for the future :P. Now, it won't create any stubs, stubs are articles that lack content, and those articles, whilst being small, would not be lacking articles. I don't see how it'd cause things to look undercovered. I'm sure many enemy variants do that. However, there was been a discussion on the forum, and the majority are opposed to the decision for them all to get full articles. {{User|Yoshi876}} | ||
:I agree with you. There's no need to create lots of small articles about stuff that is essentially the same. I hate the "<enemy> Tower" pages since they are nothing more than stacked enemies (also, players will be able to stack ''different enemies'', will we have to create a page for every single combination, or to create an equally ridiculous "Different enemies Tower" page?). Also, "Giant/Grand/Big/Colossal/Gargantuan Whatever" will behave almost exactly like regular enemies, the few differences could be easily listed right on this page, as well as "Para" versions and "Para Big" versions. Most of these pages will have a conjectural name, which is bad too. [[File: | :I agree with you. There's no need to create lots of small articles about stuff that is essentially the same. I hate the "<enemy> Tower" pages since they are nothing more than stacked enemies (also, players will be able to stack ''different enemies'', will we have to create a page for every single combination, or to create an equally ridiculous "Different enemies Tower" page?). Also, "Giant/Grand/Big/Colossal/Gargantuan Whatever" will behave almost exactly like regular enemies, the few differences could be easily listed right on this page, as well as "Para" versions and "Para Big" versions. Most of these pages will have a conjectural name, which is bad too. [[File:KoopaTroopa!.png|35px]] [[User:MegaKoopa|<span style="font-family:Verdana; font-size:18px; color:#302b7a;">MegaKoopa</span>]] [[User talk: MegaKoopa|<span style="font-family:Verdana; font-size:10px; color:#496dd1;">Talk</span>]] 16:23, 9 December 2014 (EST) | ||
== More Palettes? == | == More Palettes? == | ||
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==Proposal: what to do about all those sub-enemies?== | ==Proposal: what to do about all those sub-enemies?== | ||
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<span style="color:red;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">DO NOT CREATE ARTICLES 0-15-5-0</span> | |||
Let's nip this in the bud, shall we? With all the variety of enemy modifications, the question of whether or not we should give articles for all of these combinations has come up. On one hand, there have been many, ''many'' enemy subspecies over the years that basically constitute as "this enemy +1 height" or "this enemy but with a tail", and we're no stranger to giving them individual articles. On the other hand, none of these enemies are officially named or even recognized (there's no "Para-Spiny", "Para-Buzzy", "Para-Blooper", etc., but rather the ability to add wings to various enemies). <s>I'm personally for having individual articles (though I do have a bit of trepidation about the "Giant Para-X Tower" and whatnot that will seemingly just retread all the other info)</s> (the opposition has very good points, but I want to see how the suggested compromises pan out), but regardless, there's already been a few arguments about it, and I think it's best to decide what to do before the game comes out. | Let's nip this in the bud, shall we? With all the variety of enemy modifications, the question of whether or not we should give articles for all of these combinations has come up. On one hand, there have been many, ''many'' enemy subspecies over the years that basically constitute as "this enemy +1 height" or "this enemy but with a tail", and we're no stranger to giving them individual articles. On the other hand, none of these enemies are officially named or even recognized (there's no "Para-Spiny", "Para-Buzzy", "Para-Blooper", etc., but rather the ability to add wings to various enemies). <s>I'm personally for having individual articles (though I do have a bit of trepidation about the "Giant Para-X Tower" and whatnot that will seemingly just retread all the other info)</s> (the opposition has very good points, but I want to see how the suggested compromises pan out), but regardless, there's already been a few arguments about it, and I think it's best to decide what to do before the game comes out. | ||
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== Released date == | == Released date == | ||
Hi, the games comes it out in September 2015, but when exactly ? ----[[User:Captain Yoshi|Captain]] [[User talk:Captain Yoshi|Yoshi]] [[File:MK8 | Hi, the games comes it out in September 2015, but when exactly ? ----[[User:Captain Yoshi|Captain]] [[User talk:Captain Yoshi|Yoshi]] [[File:YoshiYellow-MK8.png | 25px]] 15:22, 12 May 2015 (EDT) | ||
:The month of release for a game tends to come out before the exact date. I think we just have to wait before Nintendo gives the exact day of release. {{User:BabyLuigi64/sig}} | :The month of release for a game tends to come out before the exact date. I think we just have to wait before Nintendo gives the exact day of release. {{User:BabyLuigi64/sig}} | ||
:I predict September 10 (for Japan) and September 11 (for North America and Europe). Then, it may be just in time for Super Mario Bros.'s 30th Anniversary on September 13.--[[User:Tryloubliss|Tryloubliss]] ([[User talk:Tryloubliss|talk]]) 11:00, 22 May 2015 (EDT) | :I predict September 10 (for Japan) and September 11 (for North America and Europe). Then, it may be just in time for Super Mario Bros.'s 30th Anniversary on September 13.--[[User:Tryloubliss|Tryloubliss]] ([[User talk:Tryloubliss|talk]]) 11:00, 22 May 2015 (EDT) | ||
::The realease date is September, 11 2015 --'''''[[User:Captain Yoshi|Captain Yoshi]]''''' [[File:MK8 | ::The realease date is September, 11 2015 --'''''[[User:Captain Yoshi|Captain Yoshi]]''''' [[File:YoshiYellow-MK8.png|link=User talk:Captain Yoshi|25px]] 08:44, 21 June 2015 (EDT) | ||
== Unconfirmed Objects? == | == Unconfirmed Objects? == | ||
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== Proposal: Articles for Para-Enemies == | == Proposal: Articles for Para-Enemies == | ||
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I know that the last one failed. But now we have seen that ''"an enemy but with wings"'' actually behaves differently to its normal counterpart (e.g. the Para-Clown Copter has a more jerky and random path, as opposed to drifting towards Mario, or a Para-Thwomp flies horizontally across the level until it is above Mario, instead of staying in one place). The ''"enemy but on top of another enemy"'' and the ''"enemy but bigger"'' variations have little impact on the actual enemy, which is why we didn't create articles for each and every variation. So I'm suggesting that we make a Para-''X'' article for all enemies, mainly because they actually have major differences. | I know that the last one failed. But now we have seen that ''"an enemy but with wings"'' actually behaves differently to its normal counterpart (e.g. the Para-Clown Copter has a more jerky and random path, as opposed to drifting towards Mario, or a Para-Thwomp flies horizontally across the level until it is above Mario, instead of staying in one place). The ''"enemy but on top of another enemy"'' and the ''"enemy but bigger"'' variations have little impact on the actual enemy, which is why we didn't create articles for each and every variation. So I'm suggesting that we make a Para-''X'' article for all enemies, mainly because they actually have major differences. | ||
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[[File:SMM Propeller Mushroom.jpg|thumb|see?]] [[User:Weegee lolz|Weegee lolz]] ([[User talk:Weegee lolz|talk]]) 16:48, 13 September 2015 (EDT) | [[File:SMM Propeller Mushroom.jpg|thumb|see?]] [[User:Weegee lolz|Weegee lolz]] ([[User talk:Weegee lolz|talk]]) 16:48, 13 September 2015 (EDT) | ||
:Thank you for that pic. i will put it on the page. [[File: | :Thank you for that pic. i will put it on the page. [[File:RoyNSMBU.png|x35px]] [[User:Roy Koopa|Roy]] [[User talk:Roy Koopa|Koopa]] 16:51, 13 September 2015 (EDT) | ||
::[[File: | ::[[File:WiiU screenshot TV Super Leaf on rail.jpg|thumb|I forgot to notify you but, so can Super Leaves.]] [[User:Weegee lolz|Weegee lolz]] ([[User talk:Weegee lolz|talk]]) 11:39, 14 September 2015 (EDT) | ||
== Weirdly justified == | == Weirdly justified == | ||
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Should speculation about a sequel be added into the article? | Should speculation about a sequel be added into the article? | ||
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:No, speculation is discouraged in MarioWiki {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:55, 25 September 2015 (EDT) | :No, speculation is discouraged in MarioWiki {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:55, 25 September 2015 (EDT) | ||
::And that should include speculation on DLC/updates, prerelease and unused stuff. --[[User:Hiccup|Hiccup]] ([[User talk:Hiccup|talk]]) 05:30, 26 September 2015 (EDT) | ::And that should include speculation on DLC/updates, prerelease and unused stuff. --[[User:Hiccup|Hiccup]] ([[User talk:Hiccup|talk]]) 05:30, 26 September 2015 (EDT) | ||
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==Differences between themes== | ==Differences between themes== | ||
Could we add a section about changes between the themes? Ex. Dry Bones throws bones in SMW Goombat | Could we add a section about changes between the themes? Ex. Dry Bones throws bones in SMW {{unsigned|Goombat}} | ||
:Do you mean [[Super Mario Maker#Styles|styles]] or [[Super Mario Maker#Course Elements|course elements]]? If there's any additional info you can add, please feel free! {{User:Alex95/sig}} 14:11, 22 December 2016 (EST) | :Do you mean [[Super Mario Maker#Styles|styles]] or [[Super Mario Maker#Course Elements|course elements]]? If there's any additional info you can add, please feel free! {{User:Alex95/sig}} 14:11, 22 December 2016 (EST) | ||
I meant styles | I meant styles.{{unsigned|Goombat}} | ||
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