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==120 star prize==
==120 star prize==
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So hows about that reference to other games section? The game's released (in USA, and Australia's release date is still about a month away...) =( {{user:Mario jc/sig}}
So hows about that reference to other games section? The game's released (in USA, and Australia's release date is still about a month away...) =( {{user:Mario jc/sig}}


==Boss changes?==
== Boss changes? ==
WHERE IS IT CONFIRMED THAT THE ICE TAP-TAP THING IS A BOSS. if it's a boss then why isn't the chomp head a boss as well??? [[User:MarioMaster720]]
WHERE IS IT CONFIRMED THAT THE ICE TAP-TAP THING IS A BOSS. if it's a boss then why isn't the chomp head a boss as well??? [[User:MarioMaster720]]
:The fact that it has the same 'Boss' music as Peewee Piranha? Perhaps? {{unsigned|TheUltimateKoopa}}
:The fact that it has the same 'Boss' music as Peewee Piranha? Perhaps? {{unsigned|TheUltimateKoopa}}
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Is it the galaxy featured in this image:
Is it the galaxy featured in this image:
[[:File:SMG2_Comet_Metal.png]]
[[Image:SMG2_Comet_Metal.png]]


Or the galaxy featured in [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PfrhrnEue8 this video]:
Or the galaxy featured in [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PfrhrnEue8 this video]:
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::Calm down now! Both of you! - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 14:19, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::Calm down now! Both of you! - {{User:Edofenrir/sig}} 14:19, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
it was a misunderstanding because i thought that someone else wrote a comment before you said "They both have the whole 'gravity is determined by the background' and so on.... My fault sorry. [[User:MarioMaster720]]
it was a misunderstanding because i thought that someone else wrote a comment before you said "They both have the whole 'gravity is determined by the background' and so on.... My fault sorry. [[User:MarioMaster720]]
The picture has a BETA comet medal, so the picture is of beta Upside Dizzy. [[PiranhaBomb]]
The other galaxy is the rightside down galaxy. -Rosalina1234


==Confirmed Galaxies==
==Confirmed Galaxies==
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:The pictures will eventually be sorted out to their galaxies and crappy images or duplicates will be deleted. --{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}
:The pictures will eventually be sorted out to their galaxies and crappy images or duplicates will be deleted. --{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}


Isn't there like a Galaxy name Yoshi Galaxy or Yoshi Egg Galaxy?
== Whomp King ==
{{unsigned|Hazyos}}


Its the yoshi star galaxy. -Rosalina1234
==Whomp King==
I do not believe that the whomp in the transmission is the whomp king. Just becuase it is in the same spot doesn't mean it is the same thing. It loooks just like a normal whomp. [[User:Ganondox|Ganondox]]
I do not believe that the whomp in the transmission is the whomp king. Just becuase it is in the same spot doesn't mean it is the same thing. It loooks just like a normal whomp. [[User:Ganondox|Ganondox]]


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:You're right, the "whomp king" we saw was just an ordinary whomp(or a giant whomp)that you have to defeat and access the king's battle.We mistaked him for the king because in Super Mario 64 he was in the top of the fortress.{{User:Mr bones/sig}}
:You're right, the "whomp king" we saw was just an ordinary whomp(or a giant whomp)that you have to defeat and access the king's battle.We mistaked him for the king because in Super Mario 64 he was in the top of the fortress.{{User:Mr bones/sig}}


==Enemy Changes!!!==
== Enemy Changes!!! ==
 
When i first watched this video: http://mynintendonews.com/2010/05/20/nintendo-wii-super-mario-64-level-featured-in-mario-galaxy-2/. I noticed an identical Giant Purple Piranha plant at 0:35 as the ones in [[Super Mario Galaxy]]. I checked the enemy list and Piranha plant article and it stood nothing about it so i added it on the enemy list. And by the way, Those enemies piloting Koopa Clown Copters look almost identical to the [[Undergrunt Gunners]] also from the First game. I won't add the Koopa Clown Enemy in the article, but the Purple piranha plant MUST be there. {{unsigned|MarioMaster720}}
When i first watched this video: http://mynintendonews.com/2010/05/20/nintendo-wii-super-mario-64-level-featured-in-mario-galaxy-2/. I noticed an identical Giant Purple Piranha plant at 0:35 as the ones in [[Super Mario Galaxy]]. I checked the enemy list and Piranha plant article and it stood nothing about it so i added it on the enemy list. And by the way, Those enemies piloting Koopa Clown Copters look almost identical to the [[Undergrunt Gunners]] also from the First game. I won't add the Koopa Clown Enemy in the article, but the Purple piranha plant MUST be there. {{unsigned|MarioMaster720}}


I could've sworn those were monty moles. But whatever. {{User|Damariogamr}}
I could've sworn those were monty moles. But whatever. {{User|Damariogamr}}
{{User|Luigifan04}} i agree.


==King Boo Located (perhaps)==
== King Boo Located (perhaps) ==
 
[http://gamerant.com/nintendo-unveils-super-mario-galaxy-2-galaxy-list-mattw-21998/]
[http://gamerant.com/nintendo-unveils-super-mario-galaxy-2-galaxy-list-mattw-21998/]


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==Chargin Chucks?==
==Chargin Chucks?==
Is there proofs chargin chucks are appearing?{{User:Mr bones/sig}}
Is there proofs chargin chucks are appearing?{{User:Mr bones/sig}}


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:Because you can't really put "the game" as a source, even though "the game" was the source. Well, to be exact, a live playthrough of the game. Whoever said it was called Mallettoid is an idiot. It's Megahammer.
:Because you can't really put "the game" as a source, even though "the game" was the source. Well, to be exact, a live playthrough of the game. Whoever said it was called Mallettoid is an idiot. It's Megahammer.
--[[User:TheUltimateKoopa|TheUltimateKoopa]] 20:03, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
--[[User:TheUltimateKoopa|TheUltimateKoopa]] 20:03, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
:I think the Ice Flower was removed because Yoshi's Dash Pepper already lets you walk on water.[[User:Y0SHI3gg|Y0SHI3gg]] 21:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, use the Forum For speculation, not talk pages. {{User|Emperor Yoshi}}


Mallettoid is Megahammer's beta name. See this game's list of beta elements. PiranhaBomb
== New Bosses? ==


==New Bosses?==
Okay, so I was on IGN.com, and it showed videos of new boss fights, their names, and the galaxies theyre fought in:
Okay, so I was on IGN.com, and it showed videos of new boss fights, their names, and the galaxies theyre fought in:


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-'''Pikante''' looks like the result of a 3-way crash between an electrogoomba, monty tank, and an undergrunt gunner and is fought in Shiverburn Galaxy.
-'''Pikante''' looks like the result of a 3-way crash between an electrogoomba, monty tank, and an undergrunt gunner and is fought in Shiverburn Galaxy.


-'''Squizzard''' looks like a <s>blargg</s> magmaargh covered with sand and is fought in Slipsand Galaxy.
-'''Squizzard''' looks like a blargg covered with sand and is fought in Slipsand Galaxy.


-'''Lakitu''' is the name that appears for the obese lakitu (not sure if this is offical.)
-'''Lakitu''' is the name that appears for the obese lakitu (not sure if this is offical.)
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Also, where is their proof of Dino Piranha and all those other bosses returning in the game? {{User:McQueenMario/sig}}
Also, where is their proof of Dino Piranha and all those other bosses returning in the game? {{User:McQueenMario/sig}}
:I haven't seen Dino Piranha in the game yet, but Bugaboom appears in a galaxy in world 2. None of those other returning bosses are sourced, so it might not be true. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
:I haven't seen Dino Piranha in the game yet, but Bugaboom appears in a galaxy in world 2. None of those other returning bosses are sourced, so it might not be true. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
::Boss Blitz Galaxy, it has the five bosses from the first game. {{User:Baby Mario Bloops/sig}}'
::Boss Blitz Galaxy, it has the five bosses from the first game. {{User:Baby Mario Bloops/sig}}
 
Um, it's PRINCE Pikante. See his page. And 'Lakitu' is actually Giga Lakitu. Again, see his page. PiranhaBomb


:PiranhaBomb you are replying to questions from a few months to years ago and are most likely unneeded.{{User:YoshiGo99/sig}} 21:20, 3 January 2013 (EST)
== Stars? ==


==Stars?==
Does anyone have a complete list of stars in order?
Does anyone have a complete list of stars in order?
I did a list on another site (nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Mario_Galaxy_2), however, some of the main galaxies' normal (yellow/gold) stars are secret stars, but some are just a second normal star, and the galaxies with secret stars have a normal star, then comet star, then secret star (i.e. the comet star is 2nd), where as the other galaxies have a normal star, another normal star, and THEN the comet star as a third star. Also, every single galaxy has the same number of Green Stars as yellow stars, except Grandmaster Galaxy, which only has 2 (The Ultimate Test and The Perfect Run)--[[User:TheUltimateKoopa|TheUltimateKoopa]] 14:19, 24 May 2010 (EDT)
I did a list on another site (nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Mario_Galaxy_2), however, some of the main galaxies' normal (yellow/gold) stars are secret stars, but some are just a second normal star, and the galaxies with secret stars have a normal star, then comet star, then secret star (i.e. the comet star is 2nd), where as the other galaxies have a normal star, another normal star, and THEN the comet star as a third star. Also, every single galaxy has the same number of Green Stars as yellow stars, except Grandmaster Galaxy, which only has 2 (The Ultimate Test and The Perfect Run)--[[User:TheUltimateKoopa|TheUltimateKoopa]] 14:19, 24 May 2010 (EDT)


==UNDELETE THE GALAXY2BOX NOW!==
== UNDELETE THE GALAXY2BOX NOW! ==
 
Why did you have to delete the "galaxy2box" template you STUPID idiots? It's been up for about THREE MONTHS, and there was a freaking REASON for it! It was NOT an "exact copy of the galaxybox template". It had the word "World" instead of "Dome" for starters! --[[User:TheUltimateKoopa|TheUltimateKoopa]] 07:40, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
Why did you have to delete the "galaxy2box" template you STUPID idiots? It's been up for about THREE MONTHS, and there was a freaking REASON for it! It was NOT an "exact copy of the galaxybox template". It had the word "World" instead of "Dome" for starters! --[[User:TheUltimateKoopa|TheUltimateKoopa]] 07:40, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
:I'm sorry TUK but having two infoboxes on the ''same subject'' is slightly (very) redundant and that creates useless templates. If you notice a problem with the new template you are free to fix it, the page isn't protected is it? I believe you already have fixed it in fact! Now, the current problem does not seem like a problem to me anymore... {{User|Marioguy1}}
:I'm sorry TUK but having two infoboxes on the ''same subject'' is slightly (very) redundant and that creates useless templates. If you notice a problem with the new template you are free to fix it, the page isn't protected is it? I believe you already have fixed it in fact! Now, the current problem does not seem like a problem to me anymore... {{User|Marioguy1}}
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==Seriousley where is Toad?==
==Seriousley where is Toad?==
Okay guys. I asked this question in the first archive. But now you played the game and all that, I can't see Toad, where is he?{{User:Mr bones/sig}}
Okay guys. I asked this question in the first archive. But now you played the game and all that, I can't see Toad, where is he?{{User:Mr bones/sig}}
:The Toad Brigade is in the game. They're Toads. I could be wrong, but there also might be some Toads in the game's opening as well. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
:The Toad Brigade is in the game. They're Toads. I could be wrong, but there also might be some Toads in the game's opening as well. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
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::::::::{{User|Platitudinous}} I don't know, but it's been mentioned prievously on the site.
::::::::{{User|Platitudinous}} I don't know, but it's been mentioned prievously on the site.


==No Spindel==
== No Spindel ==
 
Apparently, those "Spindels" are actually called Romps. So, should I get rid of Spindel being in the game? {{unsigned|Iruni181}}
Apparently, those "Spindels" are actually called Romps. So, should I get rid of Spindel being in the game? {{unsigned|Iruni181}}


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==UR MR GAY/ YA IM RU==
== UR MR GAY/ YA IM RU ==
On the Super Mario Galaxy discussion page it was said that the infamous "UR MR GAY" star boxart spelling should NOT be included in the trivia section, Recent SMG2 fans have noticed another "sexual" spelling in the boxart of Super Mario Galaxy 2 which normally says: UR MI AY, but if read backwards it says: YA IM RU which is translated to:            SMG: You're Mr. Gay?
On the Super Mario Galaxy discussion page it was said that the infamous "UR MR GAY" star boxart spelling should NOT be included in the trivia section, Recent SMG2 fans have noticed another "sexual" spelling in the boxart of Super Mario Galaxy 2 which normally says: UR MI AY, but if read backwards it says: YA IM RU which is translated to:            SMG: You're Mr. Gay?
SMG2: Yeah i am, are you?.
SMG2: Yeah i am, are you?.
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Gimme a break! Why do you guys try to make nintendo look bad? And yes the stars could be seen under L and O. making that thing say you are moly.{{User:Mr bones/sig}}
Gimme a break! Why do you guys try to make nintendo look bad? And yes the stars could be seen under L and O. making that thing say you are moly.{{User:Mr bones/sig}}


==Dino Piranha, King Kaliente, Major Burrows==
== Dino Piranha, King Kaliente, Major Burrows ==
 
Why does this keep getting changed back? During the game you have to battle Dino Piranha and King Kaliente four times, the regular mission, the speed run, and both green star mission. Major Burrows is three times, normal mission, speed run, and the second green star mission. Yes, you do have to battle them in order to make the launch star appear in order for you to get to the next planet so you can make your way to the green star, so stop removing this. --[[User:SinnohMasterGalaxy|SinnohMasterGalaxy]] 23:58, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Why does this keep getting changed back? During the game you have to battle Dino Piranha and King Kaliente four times, the regular mission, the speed run, and both green star mission. Major Burrows is three times, normal mission, speed run, and the second green star mission. Yes, you do have to battle them in order to make the launch star appear in order for you to get to the next planet so you can make your way to the green star, so stop removing this. --[[User:SinnohMasterGalaxy|SinnohMasterGalaxy]] 23:58, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
:You do not have to do that for Green Stars. The Green Stars are scattered throughout the levels, but beating the bosses does not ever (as far as I know), actually give you a Green Star. That means you only have to beat them once or twice. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
:You do not have to do that for Green Stars. The Green Stars are scattered throughout the levels, but beating the bosses does not ever (as far as I know), actually give you a Green Star. That means you only have to beat them once or twice. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
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:::::^Looks somebody didn't get that far in the game. :) Yes, you have to, but the Green Stars are easy to spot.--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}
:::::^Looks somebody didn't get that far in the game. :) Yes, you have to, but the Green Stars are easy to spot.--{{User:Gamefreak75/Sig}}


==Featured Article==
== Featured Article ==
I'm thinking in putting SMG2 as a Featured Article. What do you think? --[[User:Mario Fan 123|Mario Fan 123 - Mario's craaazy fan!]]
I'm thinking in putting SMG2 as a Featured Article. What do you think? --[[User:Mario Fan 123|Mario Fan 123 - Mario's craaazy fan!]]
:You can nominate it if you'd like, but to be honest, its defiantly not FA material at this point. It needs a little more work, the game only came out last month. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
:You can nominate it if you'd like, but to be honest, its defiantly not FA material at this point. It needs a little more work, the game only came out last month. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}


::I agree with the fury, still not complete enough to be a FA. Some unchecked parts still say "the game will feature" and stuff like that. {{User:Supermariofan14/sig}}
::I agree with the fury, still not complete enough to be a FA. Some unchecked parts still say "the game will feature" and stuff like that. {{User:Supermariofan14/sig}}
:::Besides, it needs more images. {{unsigned|KS3}}
::::Now, there are more images. Can I do it? I just need permission. --[[User:Mario Fan 123|Mario Fan 123 - Mario's craaazy fan!]]
:::::You don't need permission. You can nominate it now. {{User:Fawfulfury65/sig}}
::::::How about now, Fawlfulfury? Lindsay65 had undid my edit. --{{User:Mario Fan 123/sig}} 22:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Do what you want, but i dont think its ready yet. {{User:BluePikminKong497/sig}} 22:22, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
I agree with BluePikminKong. Wait another <s>year</s> month, or a few weeks. {{User:Supermariofan14/sig}}


==The Baby Luma and Mario's Hat==
==The Baby Luma and Mario's Hat==
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I saw a [http://www.youtube.com/user/WayoshiM#p/u/65/VzypDOlhC_I video] that had the Baby Luma take Luigi's hat. Should it be changed to Luigi's hat instead of Mario's Hat??? {{User:KS3/sig}} [[Special:Random|14:26, 21 June 2010 (UTC)]]
I saw a [http://www.youtube.com/user/WayoshiM#p/u/65/VzypDOlhC_I video] that had the Baby Luma take Luigi's hat. Should it be changed to Luigi's hat instead of Mario's Hat??? {{User:KS3/sig}} [[Special:Random|14:26, 21 June 2010 (UTC)]]
It depends on whom you're playing as.mAnd stop obsessing about Wayoshi. {{User:BluePikminKong497/sig}}
==Super Mario Galaxy 2 Reception==
I want to add something in Reception area: ''On GameRankings.com, it is current tied for first place with The Legend of Zelda: Ocarnia of Time (put a hyperlink on Zelda Wiki.org)'' but I think it's "closed" right now. Can anyone edit it? --[[User:AnonymousPerson|AnonymousPerson]] 22:50, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
==Refrences to other Games section==
This section is 99% accurate, but it says that  The intro to SMG2 is a continuation from the [[Grand Finale Galaxy]] from the first game. This is speculation, no? The Grand Finale Galaxy left off with Mario getting a Power Star right in front of Peach's castle, but when SMG2 starts, Mario is not here, and Peach invites him to the castle. The nattarater even says: "The Star Festival has come'''Again'''" (Well, he said something like" The star festival happens every hundred years, and that time has come again) Should this inaccurate information be deleted? [[User:Ratfink43|Ratfink43]]
==Innacurate "New Enemies" Section?==
The "New Enemies" section of the page lists a number of enemies that have appeared in previous Mario games (Big Boos, Hammer Bros., and Whomps to name a few). Many of the enemies listed are ones that didn't appear in Super Mario Galaxy, but are certainly not new. If I am misunderstanding the purpose of this section and it is in fact for listing enemies that appear in a game that weren't in it's prequel then please let me know.--[[User:Kirbychu HR&#39;D|Kirbychu HR&#39;D]] 04:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:I believe the section references enemies new to the Super Mario Galaxy series (i.e. not in the first game) and it is accurate on that count {{User|Alexfusco5}}
::Well then the section title should probably be changed. The current title suggests that the enemies listed are enemies new to the Mario series, and similar sections on other articles (Such as the "New Enemies" section on the page for New Super Mario Bros.) only use the section for that purpose. There should at least be a note saying that the enemies are new to the Mario Galaxy series and not the Mario series as a whole.--[[User:Kirbychu HR&#39;D|Kirbychu HR&#39;D]]
:::I think people realize the section does not pertain to the Mario series as a whole, since the returning enemies section features enemies found only in the first Galaxy. {{User|Mario4Ever}}
==How do you edit the article?==
I am having trouble editing the Super Mario Galaxy 2 article. I cannot find any sort of "edit" buttons neither at the top of the aricle, nor in a section. I am also having this trouble with NSMBW. Is this because I do not have something that users who edit the article have, or is it that this article cannot be edited at all?--[[User:Holyromanemperortatan|Holyromanemperortatan]] 15:32, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:The article can only be edited by autoconfirmed users; see [[MarioWiki:Autoconfirmed users]] for more information.--[[User:Vellidragon|vellidragon]] 15:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Before you put your comment, I then just found out the article has locked to prevent editing. But thanks anayway!--[[User:Holyromanemperortatan|Holyromanemperortatan]] 15:43, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
==Power Up Locations==
This Article should have a Power Ups section with the galaxies they appear in (including Yoshi's Fruits). The Super Mario Galaxy article has it so this article should have it too.
Sincerely [[User:ED120]]
==Red and Blue Platforms?==
Okay, under the Gameplay Elements section, it says that Red and Blue platforms were brought back from ''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]''. I know what they are from ''SMG2'', however I don't recall anything like that ever being in ''Super Mario Sunshine'' at all...would anyone be able to enlighten me?
{{User:Phoenix/sig}} 17:32, 11 April 2011 (EDT)
:I'm not sure if this fits in the talk page, but they appear in the second secret level in Bianco Hills, in the star The Secret of the Dirty Lake. {{User:Supermariofan14/sig}}
::It does fit, since it's a question of the article's accuracy. {{User:Mario4Ever/Sig}} 17:21, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
[[File:Red Coins of the Dirty Lake.png|thumb|right|Like this...]]
:::Oh yeah! Now I remember, I know exactly what you're talking about! But those things definitely aren't the same as the Red and Blue Platforms that appear in the [[Flip Swap Galaxy]] (and a few other galaxies). For one thing, they rotated at their centers, i.e. - not like hinges on doors like these ones, and if I recall correctly, those platforms are actually ''orange'' and blue, not Red and Blue, plus, they have wood on their centers, and therefore appear not to be made of metal, and they rotated independently of the player's control, and they are like 2x thicker than in ''SMG2'', and they move around randomly and bounce into each other while flipping instead of remaining stationary, and they don't all flip at the same time, they alternate flipping (also, the two colors are not physically connected, though I think that was mentioned in the article already)...the point is, there's a world of differences here, why are we claiming they're the same things just 'cause they look slightly similar?
{{User:Phoenix/sig}} 02:19, 13 April 2011 (EDT)
== sequel ==
according to [http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario#Games this], there will be another Mario Galaxy game for the 3ds. {{user:Nintendo Wii and EA/sig}}
Wikipedia is an unreliable source; don't put that info on the article yet. [[User:ThirdMarioBro|ThirdMarioBro:]] [[User talk:ThirdMarioBro|<span style="color:red">Mario,</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/ThirdMarioBro|<span style="color:green">Luigi,</span>]] <span style="color:blue">and me!</span> 15:37, 17 June 2011 (EDT)
It is to late to hear about if it is coming out in 2011. Usually we hear about new games coming out a year or two before it comes out.{{User:YoshiGo99/sig}}
It seems to me like the Mario articles on the Simple English Wikipedia as extremely underdeveloped. Half of them don't even have pages! Considering this, I don't believe we should add it to the article. {{User:YL/sig}}
== *enemies which first appeared in super mario galaxy? ==
Can I replace this with old enemies new to smg2 (i.e. hammer bro)? I think that is more significant than "*enemies which first appeared in super mario galaxy".
{{User|yoshiyoshiyoshi}}
:No. There is already a "New Enemies" section above the "Returning Enemies" section. I don't see the point of your question. {{User:Frostyfireyoshi/sig}} 06:34, 3 August 2011 (EDT)
I mean Enemies hich have never appeared in the Super Mario Galaxy series,but have appeared in previous mario games. Such as, Hammer Bros and Fuzzies are not brand new enemies,but they are new to the SMG series.
{{User|yoshiyoshiyoshi}}
== About the title... ==
I've heard, and seen that if you take every letter with a star nearby, you get U R Mr Gay. {{User:Iggy Koopa Jr/sig}} 12:11, 24 July 2013 (EDT)
== Tables ==
I think about removing the Xs in the table like in [[Mario Kart (series)]] {{User:Tsunami/sig}}
== Wrong Table Headings and Missing Column ==
In section "Prankster Comets", "Episode Title" in the table heading should be "Comet Type", while "Based on" should be "Episode Title". Column "Based on" is actually absent from the whole table. [[User:Hippopo|Hippopo]] ([[User talk:Hippopo|talk]])
:Edited the names (it does sound a lot better that way), thanks for pointing that out. I might put the "Based on" column in later. - [[User:Turboo|Turboo]] ([[User talk:Turboo|talk]]) 03:26, 23 September 2014 (EDT)
== Really a sequel ==
While it's true that many, even those at Nintendo, claim Mario Galaxy 2 to be a sequel, by definition, I don't believe Mario Galaxy 2 qualifies as a true sequel to the first game. Nothing in games makes reference to the first game, no events mentioned, the game treats it as Mario's first time in outer space, no Lumas recognize Mario. None of it lives up to the true definition of the word "sequel". I can provide some sources for this, based on the development of the game, though I can't say for sure if they count as truly reliable.
http://www.infendo.com/super-mario-galaxy-2-not-a-true-number-2/
And in the Iwata Asks about the game (http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wii/supermariogalaxy2/0/0), Miyamoto even stats that the game was not named Galaxy 2 out of means for being a sequel, but more for the fact that more than enough new elements were put in to say it's not a follow up, but something almost new.
So I simply ask; can it really be called a sequel by definition or are we going to list it off as a sequel based on the similar idea and name? I personally don't find it correct to call it a sequel if it doesn't really act like one. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
:Unless you want to start targeting every one of the series' sequels (NSMB to NSMB2, SMB to SMB2 to SMB3 to SMW, etc.), it seems rather pedantic to say that a game with a 2 in its title isn't a sequel. Say what you want about what Nintendo considers the game to be or whether or not it's substantial enough to warrant being separate, but the fact is that we got a game titled in a way that sequels are titled, so I'd rather apply Occam's Razor. Also, the game's numerous characters, abilities, items, aesthetic, and general gameplay are all incredibly evocative of its predecessor, so saying that nothing references the first game is rather misleading. {{User:Time Turner/sig}}
::I'm not saying nothing references the first game. Everything you listed is pretty much taken directly from the first game. I'm simply saying that stuff like the plot and how characters interact or react to one another don't support the game being a sequel. Though you have a point regarding the games you listed (NSMB2 has actually been called the direct sequel to the first NSMB if I recall and I believe some elements of Mario World's story do reference back to Mario Bros. 3), the only arguable one is SMB to SMB2, which don't really say the events happen directly after the other. Maybe I'm just complicating things, but I guess it could be simpler just to say it's a sequel to avoid confusion. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
:::I'm pretty sure the reason [[Super Mario Galaxy|Galaxy 1]] isn't mentioned is because of it's ending. Remember that the universe recreated in that epic scene. Therefore, no one remembers [[Mario]]'s previous adventures in space, except Mario and [[Rosalina]], as they were in some sort of sanctuary watching the universe be recreated. And yes, this is the basis for a speculative theory, but while the theory itself cannot be mentioned on the wiki, the basis for it is pretty solid, I think. If this is too speculative, please disregard it at once. I guess what I'm saying is I would consider this a sequel, not least because of the 2 in its title.
:::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 10:37, 7 November 2016 (EST)
::::Question, would not you consider Dream Team a sequel also because of its lack of continuity? Does a sequel ''need'' some continuity to be a sequel? {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 10:40, 7 November 2016 (EST)
:::::Going strictly by definition, a sequel is "A published, broadcast, or recorded work that continues the story or develops the theme of an earlier one." There are other definitions that fall more in line with what I discussed above, but this is usually the most common definition. The keyword there is "story": if a work doesn't follow the narrative of a preceding work, it can be argued that it isn't actually a sequel. Of course, I think that definition is too strict, especially for the wiki's purposes, but I'm playing devil's advocate. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 11:55, 7 November 2016 (EST)
::::::Due to the lack of continuity in the [[Mario (franchise)|Mario franchise]], I don't think the definition [[User:Time Turner|Time Turner]] gives is valid. In this franchise, a sequel is a game succeeding another game with a similar name/theme. But even if it somehow does apply to the wiki, see my previous comment.
:::::::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 13:14, 7 November 2016 (EST)
::::::::But you ''can'' argue that it's a sequel since it does "develop the theme of an earlier one". Within the scope of video games, there is little doubt this is a sequel. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 18:01, 7 November 2016 (EST)
== Mixed up character descriptions ==
In the characters section, Captain Toad has Luigi's description, and Bowser has Captian Toad's. I'd edit it myself, but the page is locked for me.--[[User:LittleLum|LittleLum]] ([[User talk:LittleLum|talk]]) 21:41, April 22, 2019 (EDT)
:Fixed, thanks for pointing it out. You should be able to [[MarioWiki:Autoconfirmed users|edit semiprotected pages]] after two more edits. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:51, April 22, 2019 (EDT)
== Placement of Secret Missions (barring Green Stars) vs Prankster Comet Missions compared to SMG1 and Color-Code the Missions ==
I noticed for galaxies that have both a secret mission and a prankster comet mission, the order of the missions here list the secret mission before the prankster comet mission. Yet, the images of the galaxies clearly show the secret missions after the prankster comet missions. This was not contradictory for the galaxy list for the prequel, which also listed the secret star mission or missions after both prankster comet missions on both the wiki and the in-game star list. I was just curious as to what prompted this and if it was necessary to change them? Also, could the missions be color-coded like the mission list for the first game? Thanks, --[[User:Crafty Potatoes|Crafty Potatoes]] ([[User talk:Crafty Potatoes|talk]]) 09:20, August 4, 2020 (EDT)
:Edit: I noticed some stars did follow the pattern of putting the prankster comet mission before the secret mission, while others don't. I'll see if I can try to fix it or wait for someone else who can. --[[User:Crafty Potatoes|Crafty Potatoes]] ([[User talk:Crafty Potatoes|talk]]) 09:25, August 4, 2020 (EDT)
== RIghtside Down Power-Ups ==
In the [[Super_Mario_Galaxy_2#Power-up_locations|Power-up locations table]], Rightside Down's Fire Flower is listed as only appearing in the Hidden Star. In-game, you have to use it in the first star of the level. Could someone please fix this? Thanks in advance. [[User:CjhMC|CjhMC]] ([[User talk:CjhMC|talk]])
:Just noticed that, Star 1 has been added to the table. {{User:Zaku/sig}} 13:11, March 27, 2022 (EDT)
==We should try to make a clearer definition for "planet/reachable area"==
So, I understand that there isn't exactly a concrete definition for what counts as a planet or area, which leaves some room for interpretation. However, as I was looking through the planet/area counts in the galaxies table, I saw some that definitely aren't right... Seven in Spin-Dig Galaxy? Only FOUR planets in Battle Belt Galaxy? And SEVEN in Throwback??? I really don't see how that would be possible to think, assuming those were put in intentionally and not just typos. I would change these, but I'm not sure what I'd put in myself. Would the pipe rooms in Battle Belt count as their own areas, or not because they're just the interior of other planets? What about the underside of the Whomp's Fortress planet? Is that its own area? It has its own gravity, so is that enough to qualify? Twisty Trials Galaxy is considered to have four areas despite not changing gravity or ever using Launch Stars/Pipes/Teleporters/etc to go anywhere; the areas are all connected. Idk it just seems really messy to me and it should probably be addressed one way or another. [[User:ViableBunnyBudd|ViableBunnyBudd]] ([[User talk:ViableBunnyBudd|talk]]) 13:35, August 18, 2024 (EDT)
:For ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'', the "reachable areas" parameter was conceptualized as "what is separated by Launch Star or Warp Pipe?" It is less about the literal number of planets because quite a few can simply be jumped between so it is not very contextualizing. I would revise these numbers with the same framework. ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' has not been scrutinized as much as its predecessor because that one was nominated for feature status. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 20:34, August 18, 2024 (EDT)

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