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Exactly. Me & Paper Jorge are settling it. {{User:MegaMario9910/sig}} That's what the hahahahaha thing is.  
Exactly. Me & Paper Jorge are settling it. {{User:MegaMario9910/sig}} That's what the hahahahaha thing is.  


:Well, mostly I settled it :P. A nice one week ban is what he gets. Thanks Princess Grapes for alerting me. You did the right thing. Meanwhile, Learner, back-up pages are not neccessary. Sysops can easily revert edits and block the user if needed. Thanks everyone for trying so hard to stop the troll until I came on. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>
:Well, mostly I settled it :P. A nice one week ban is what he gets. Thanks Princess Grapes for alerting me. You did the right thing. Meanwhile, Learner, back-up pages are not neccessary. Sysops can easily revert edits and block the user if needed. Thanks everyone for trying so hard to stop the troll until I came on. http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif




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Ok, Well, I just thought that if someone found a loopole, then the backup pages would help.. [[User:Learner|Learner]] 10:54, 8 March 2008 (EST)
Ok, Well, I just thought that if someone found a loopole, then the backup pages would help.. [[User:Learner|Learner]] 10:54, 8 March 2008 (EST)


:Well they're just uneccessary. Just alert a sysop, get the sysop to revert and everything's fine. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>
:Well they're just uneccessary. Just alert a sysop, get the sysop to revert and everything's fine. http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''aper '''Jorge'''</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Paper Jorge|Talk]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Paper Jorge|Contributions]])<tt>&middot;</tt></small>http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3473/linkswordmi2.gif


== Offensive? ==
== Offensive? ==
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==Where can I put this Information==
==Where can I put this Information==
According to this [http://www.brawlinthefamily.com/forum/showthread.php?267-Super-Mario-Galaxy-2&p=33340&viewfull=1#post33340 article], the events of Super Mario Galaxy never happened. Where can I place this information in the article? <span style="border:2px solid #060;background-color:#deepskyblue;font-timesnewroman;"> [[User:Pikmin1254|<b><span style="color:blue;">Pikmin</span></b>]][[User talk:Pikmin1254|<b><span style="color:purple;">1254]]
According to this [http://www.brawlinthefamily.com/forum/showthread.php?267-Super-Mario-Galaxy-2&p=33340&viewfull=1#post33340 article], the events of Super Mario Galaxy never happened. Where can I place this information in the article? <span style="border:2px solid #060;background-color:#deepskyblue;font-timesnewroman;"> [[User:Pikmin1254|<b><span style="color:blue;">Pikmin</span></b>]][[User talk:Pikmin1254|<b><span style="color:purple;">1254]]
::</b>Firstly, I believe that relates to SMG2, not SMG1. Secondly, this appears to be a "game theory" which is not suitable for this wiki.[[User:MiracleDinner|MiracleDinner]] ([[User talk:MiracleDinner|talk]]) 05:31, July 27, 2019 (EDT)<b>
:::And 3) '''You're''' necroing a years old comment to point out a game theory when 4) the post in question isn't even that, more a comment on how the second game's plot is basically just "the first game happens again but no one really acknowledges it".
The main reason I'm not removing this is because I'm not sure it's warranted. If an admin does decide it's warranted and wishes to do so themselves, feel free to jettison my comment also. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 05:52, July 27, 2019 (EDT)
::::Apologies. I interpreted it as a game theory, and didn't realise it was so old. I will take care in future to avoid "necroing" old comments. [[User:MiracleDinner|MiracleDinner]] ([[User talk:MiracleDinner|talk]]) 06:04, July 27, 2019 (EDT)


==TCG==
==TCG==
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== Make a Power Star Section==
== Make a Power Star Section==
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I was looking at this article, and I saw that Power Stars, Grand Stars, Green Stars and the Red Power Star were listed as items, I don't think they fit as items and deserve they're own section. <br>
I was looking at this article, and I saw that Power Stars, Grand Stars, Green Stars and the Red Power Star were listed as items, I don't think they fit as items and deserve they're own section. <br>
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:Hello, until the transition is complete, information for the missions that do not have articles can be found in the page for the galaxy containing the mission. For example, "Scaling the Sticky Wall" can be found in [[Honeyclimb Galaxy]]. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 15:27, 28 February 2017 (EST)
:Hello, until the transition is complete, information for the missions that do not have articles can be found in the page for the galaxy containing the mission. For example, "Scaling the Sticky Wall" can be found in [[Honeyclimb Galaxy]]. --{{User:Supermariofan67/sig}} 15:27, 28 February 2017 (EST)
::And now I have started working on it :) {{User:Alex95/sig}} 23:15, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
::And now I have started working on it :) {{User:Alex95/sig}} 23:15, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
== The so-called "minigames" ==
We currently have articles on four "minigames" from this game, namely [[ray surfing]], [[Bob-omb Blasting]], [[Bubble Blowing]], and [[Star Ball Rolling]]. However, only ray surfing is officially named in-game. I slapped {{tem|ref needed}} templates on the others, but I'm pretty sure they're outright conjecture. (The conjecturally named minigames from ''SMG2'', [[Crate Burning]] and [[Fluzzard Gliding]], actually have {{tem|conjecture}} templates.) I'm willing to spare Bob-omb Blasting since it's at least a defined minigame, but Bubble Blowing and Star Ball Rolling have got to go. They're not minigames. They're just game mechanics that this wiki is arbitrarily ''calling'' "minigames" for no explainable reason. Their existence is redundant with [[Bubble#Super Mario Galaxy|Bubble]] and [[Star Ball]] respectively, and if we keep them, we might as well create articles for other conjectural "minigames" like "[[Yoshi]] Riding" and "[[P-Balloon]] Floating." I mean, we don't even have a "[[Mushroom Ball]] Derby" article, and at least ''that's'' officially named. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 15:10, 5 December 2017 (EST)
:Isn't the Star Ball Rolling page like completely redundant with the Star Ball page? {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 15:15, 5 December 2017 (EST)
::Yes. In every way, shape, and form imaginable. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 15:25, 5 December 2017 (EST)
Mario Party minigames are referred in this game. Should we add Minigames as a section? [[User:SWPlaysMC|SWPlaysMC]] ([[User talk:SWPlaysMC|talk]]) 17:42, March 25, 2019 (EDT)
EDIT: Mario Party Minigames are similar to some found in Mario Party 7 and 8. Or maybe it was the 5 and 6s. Anyways...
Yea. We should add a section entitled "Minigames". [[User:SWPlaysMC|SWPlaysMC]] ([[User talk:SWPlaysMC|talk]]) 17:44, March 25, 2019 (EDT)
REEDIT: Some minigames are similar to Mario Party games. Otherwise they are they're own. [[User:SWPlaysMC|SWPlaysMC]] ([[User talk:SWPlaysMC|talk]]) 17:48, March 25, 2019 (EDT)
==Inconsistencies==
I've noticed a lot of weird parts to this page, such as Cataquacks being listed as NPCs instead of enemies, or as freezing water and lava being enemies instead of some other type of hazard. In fact, I wouldn't even think it would need mentioned at all. Furthermore, the images on the [[Super Mario Galaxy|main page]] don't reflect the images on [[Gallery:Super Mario Galaxy|the gallery page]]. The cataquack, for example, is nowhere to be found, and many images are differently sorted or simply not in one or the other. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 19:04, June 25, 2019 (EDT)
==Bowser Jr. and Kamek's Artwork==
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Both images of Bowser Jr. and Kamek are supposed to be promotional artwork for Super Mario Galaxy, but if so, why is it not included in the SMG manual. Rosalina's artwork is included. --[[User:Dogleader|Dogleader]] ([[User talk:Dogleader|talk]]) 16:12, November 6, 2020 (EST)
:Game artwork is not solely derived from the instruction manual: they also come from websites, press releases, guides, and other resources affiliated with the games. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 12:11, April 10, 2021 (EDT)
== Inconsistency Discussion: who is and who is not a boss in Super Mario Galaxy? ==
There are some small inconsistencies in official material and our article on who the bosses of ''Super Mario Galaxy'' are. In our article, the bosses are: [[Dino Piranha]], [[King Kaliente]], [[Stink Bug Parent]], [[Bugaboom]], [[Megaleg]], [[Kamella]], [[Tarantox]], [[Topmaniac]], [[Bouldergeist]], [[Major Burrows]], [[Baron Brrr]], [[Undergrunt Gunner]], [[Kingfin]], [[Bowser Jr.]], [[Bowser]], and [[Fiery Dino Piranha]].
On the [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/character/mario/characters/galaxy/index.html official Japanese character index] that was published in 2020, they also recognize the following as distinct bosses:
* オタキング(黒), the "burnt" iteration of King Kaliente from "[[King Kaliente's Spicy Return]]"
* エレキバズーカ, the iteration of the Undergrunt Gunner that shoots electricity in [[Toy Time Galaxy]]
King Kaliente proper and the water-shooting iteration of the Gunner are listed under separate entries in the index. The name convention for Kaliente mirrors the one used for Dino Piranha and Fiery Dino Piranha on the same page (as ディノパックン and ディノパックン(黒), respectively), as well as reflect an overall trend with ''Mario'' bosses that have counterparts of a different color. (e.g. [[Bowser]] and [[Bowser's Brother]] recognized as クッパ and クッパ(青), respectively, in ''[[The Lost Levels]]'' or [[Hisstocrat]] and its [[Hisstocrat (pink)|pink counterpart]] as ヘビースネーク and ヘビースネーク(ピンク).) On our article for ''Galaxy'', we recognize Dino Piranha and Fiery Dino Piranha as two seperate bosses while we list King Kaliente as one. This may in part stem from the fact that the Dino Piranhas have some pretty distinct behaviors, but it still seems inconsistent. Even if we are weighing behavior heavily here, both iterations of the Undergrunt Gunner are pretty distinctive in behavior and could potentially be listed with separate entries. On the ''3D World'' article, the Hisstocrat and its pink iteration have one entry, but it is at least noted that the pink version is a somewhat separate entity and they each have their own separate articles on the wiki. The "burnt" King Kaliente does not.
How should we resolve these inconsistencies? Should Fiery Dino Piranha be merged with Dino Piranha in the Galaxy article? (My preference is "no") Should we list each Undergrunt Gunner as separate bosses? (my preference is "yes") Should we list both King Kalientes as separate bosses? (my thought is "maybe") – [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 19:10, March 4, 2021 (EST)
:For reference, [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_53#Super_Mario_Galaxy_/_Super_Mario_Galaxy_2_fiery_counterparts|here's the proposal]] regarding the current status of King Kaliente's article. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 19:24, March 4, 2021 (EST)
::Water Bazooka and Electric Bazooka have their own discussion under Undergrunt Gunner's page. I personally think splitting them would be at the very least difficult to do cleanly since "Undergrunt Gunner" is said in-game in SMG, but I suppose they could be listed as "[[Undergrunt Gunner]] in {{fake link|Water Bazooka}} or some such thing. Another thing to add to the Kaliente and Dino thing is Gobblegut in SMG2 is treated the same way (those listings are taken straight from the Japanese Encyclopedia, by the way). Another note, I personally feel Mecha-Bowser is as much a "boss" as Megaleg. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:58, March 4, 2021 (EST)
:::I'm not sure it is necessarily to split up the main articles for Undergrunt Gunner and King Kaliente in the same way green and red Koopa Troopas share the same article. However, with regards to giving each one seperate entries in the main Galaxy article, it's a distinction that's potentially valid for a similar reason: in the returning enemy chart on the article, "Koopa Troopa (green)" and "Koopa Troopa (red)" are given separate entries. I think it would be helpful to have shared information between official material and what is in the Galaxy article, especially if the SMG2 boss chart follows the same convention. (Though I totally think it is worth evaluating Mecha-Bowser as a proper boss at some point: I thought it was one when I was a kid, and it at least felt similar to a boss fight when I replayed Galaxy recently. I think the only thing that makes Mecha-Bowser a different case is how it is framed in-game and that I don't think Mecha Bowser has any way of directly causing damage to Mario. Megaleg can at least step on him. But I could be mistaken. It's still worth discussing, in my opinion.) – [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 20:41, March 4, 2021 (EST)
==Mecha Bowser==
I noticed that Mecha Bowser's theme is simular to the underground theme from Super Mario Land. though this might be coïncinental I think that someone should add it to the references section [[Special:Contributions/80.57.88.144|80.57.88.144]] 11:00, April 10, 2021 (EDT)
:I'm not sure everyone would agree they sound similar, so I would be a little more specific on how. I personally think they do not sound that same.
:I'm inclined to think that any similarity between the pieces would be coincidental since the games were made by different teams and released decades apart from each other. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 12:10, April 10, 2021 (EDT)
== The 1991 Nintendo Power detail and the purpose behind a trivia section ==
Hey, I recently re-placed the note about the 1991 ''Nintendo Power'' article from the beginning of the page to the trivia section. The note reads:
"Coincidentally, the title "Super Mario Galaxy" was first mentioned in a fan letter written to Nintendo Power by Jimmy Peterford of Glen Cove, New York in December 1991. The letter detailed a fantasy game console called the "Raw Power System", which would come bundled with a game named "Super Mario Galaxy", or in Peterford's words, would be "better known as Super Mario Bros. 24!""
I understand the desire to keep a trivia section small - I am not against that. But if we are going to have a trivia section at all, and we want to include the ''Nintendo Power'' thing on this page, than I really think this specific detail should be moved back ''to'' the trivia section. I really don't think it belongs in the beginning of the article as it has nothing to do with the actual Wii game. It really feels like a pace-breaker in learning about the game because it is a ''trivial'' detail that does not really fit anywhere else. Curious to know what others think. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 12:36, December 30, 2021 (EST)
:Honestly it does seem like the kind of thing that would be trivia to me too. Saying that the game's title was coincidentally used as a joke in a magazine over a decade earlier doesn't seem opening-worthy at all. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 12:39, December 30, 2021 (EST)
::I appreciate your insight. My revision was originally reversed by [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]]. It's not a big deal, but I hope they see my comment here to see what they think. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 16:09, December 30, 2021 (EST)
:::Sorry about that, I just thought the incorporate trivia thing in the spotlight meant incorporating as much trivia as possible. I'd be fine with it I guess, now that you bring it up.[[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 16:16, December 30, 2021 (EST)
Some people take the "Incorporate Trivia sections in the main as much as possible" advice too literally. "A old fan letter in an official magazine coincidentally happened to mention a fictitious game with the exact same name as a real one released much later" is literally trivia. It makes no sense to put it in the lead. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 16:14, December 30, 2021 (EST)

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