Editing Talk:Super Mario Bros. Wonder

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== PEGI rating ==
PEGI 7 rating is confirmed in this game, I saw this in Nintendo eShop page. --[[User:PetrPro|<span style="font-family:emulogic;color:#0070ff">PetrPro</span>]] ([[User talk:PetrPro|talk]]) 11:56, June 21, 2023 (EDT)

== Blue Toad ==
The article says that Blue Toad is playable. While the Goomba on the key art might be wearing a mushroom cap resembling Blue Toad's, I think that's not concrete proof that he is indeed playable. -[[User:Definitely not Sascha|Definitely not Sascha]] ([[User talk:Definitely not Sascha|talk]])
:Seems good enough to me, considering the trailer confirmed at least 4 colors of Yoshi at once. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:12, June 21, 2023 (EDT)
::I agree. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 14:17, June 21, 2023 (EDT)
:::Just seems strange to me that they go out of their way to show all the Yoshis, but Blue Toad not once. -[[User:Definitely not Sascha|Definitely not Sascha]] ([[User talk:Definitely not Sascha|talk]])
::::I'd rather avoid the speculation. A Blue Toad cap being in artwork could mean just about anything this early on, so for now we should avoid saying that he's definitely playable, or even in the game - for all we know there could just be a Goomba that wears the cap for some reason. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 15:16, June 21, 2023 (EDT)
:::::I went ahead and removed it, and it should not be readded until we know for sure what the deal is with that Goomba. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 17:02, June 21, 2023 (EDT)
::::::Mary's Response: Thanks for this info. I shall now respond!
::::::Hmmm... I think I may have a theory here, based on this infamous "Goomba With Blue Toad's Cap" topic. And that theory is: The game could POSSIBLY have ANOTHER new powerup, where you can MORPH INTO A GOOMBA!?!?
::::::Just think! in the key artwork, the goomba has Blue Toad's cap, right? AND we know that this game will have new powerups, like the Elephant Fruit (That's what I'm gonna call it, anyway). So maybe, there will be a new Goomba-Morph powerup, similar to the [[Goomba Mask]] in [[Super Mario 3D World]]! It makes sense, don't you think? 
::::::[[User:AnimeTreehouseOfficial]]
:::::::We'll just have to wait and see what happens in the game, we're not including anything based on fan theories. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 19:14, June 25, 2023 (EDT)
::::::::I do agree we should probably wait, but seeing as the spike ball and stretchy forms appear as wonder effects, it's likely the Goomba will as well. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:12, June 25, 2023 (EDT)
Well, it looks like Nintendo has cleared the situation up during today's game focused-Direct. Yes, Blue Toad is playable, and yes, you can turn into a Goomba during gameplay. [[User: DK Fan|DK Fan]]

== The Flower Kingdom ==

According to the world map footage of Luigi, the first two levels are "Welcome to the Flower Kingdom!" and "Piranha Plants on Parade". I was wondering if we should start compiling a "Locations" section to describe parts of levels seen in trailer footage, known levels, and world map areas. I'm also wondering where we could mention that this game will be taking place in the Flower Kingdom. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 06:08, June 22, 2023 (EDT)

== Missing form ==

Just wanted to say that in the part of the trailer where they are falling throught the clouds you can see they are under the effects of the Super Star, I can't edit so please someone add both the Super Star and the Invincible form. {{unsigned|2.137.178.9}}

== Items ==

Can you please add "[[Checkpoint Flag]]" to the items list? I saw some in the trailer. Can you please add "Checkpoint Flag"? Please.
[[Special:Contributions/73.144.173.107|73.144.173.107]] 20:45, June 22, 2023 (EDT)

== Daisy's artwork: Similar or different pose artwork? ==

I notice that Daisy's artwork that it seems to be familiar. It looks like Daisy's pose from London Tour's launch artwork, if we compare to Daisy's artwork in this game and the launch artwork for London Tour, the pose feels slightly different. So here is the comparison:
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File:MKT London Tour launch artwork.jpg|Artwork for London Tour launch artwork with Daisy in ''Mario Kart Tour''
File:SMBW Daisy.png|Daisy's artwork for ''Super Mario Bros. Wonder''
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Should we consider Daisy's pose in Super Mario Bros. Wonder is the same  pose or being the pose looks different? --[[User:ExoRosalina|<span style="font-family:emulogic;color:#0070ff">ExoRosalina</span>]] ([[User talk:ExoRosalina|talk]]) 10:45, June 21, 2023 (PHT)
:Looks like the same pose. --[[File:PM Tweester Sprite.png|30px]] It's [[User: Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]]! 13:03, June 24, 2023 (EDT)

== Bowser Jr. Speculation ==

I personally think we should refrain from speculating about "A new form of Bowser Jr.". This in no way has been confirmed by Nintendo. [[Special:Contributions/73.31.13.208|73.31.13.208]] 20:31, July 1, 2023 (EDT)SquireTurnbolt
:Well, [https://i.imgur.com/s7ip64g.png here] is a screenshot from the Direct trailer. If you ask me, it certainly looks like Bowser Jr. [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 21:55, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
::Could be a doppelganger. Akin to Dark Bowser, which it also resembles. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:21, July 1, 2023 (EDT)

== Princess Daisy's appearance ==

As Princess Daisy is a playable character in this game, would that make this, excluding Super Mario Run, her Super Mario Bros Debut? [[User:Kangaflora|Kangaflora]] ([[User talk:Kangaflora|talk]]) 09:29, July 3, 2023 (EDT)
:No offense, but that's basically saying "it's her playable debut if you don't count the game she was playable in previously". {{User:Swallow/sig}} 10:27, July 3, 2023 (EDT)
::We could say it's her first appearance on a home console Super Mario Bros. game, since her previous 2 appearances in the series ([[Super Mario Land]] and [[Super Mario Run]]) are both for handheld consoles ([[Game Boy]] and mobile phones respectively. {{User:Biggestman/sig}} 14:04, July 26, 2023 (EDT)

== New voices? ==

Okay, I CAN'T be the only one who's noticing that not just Mario, but even the other playable characters don't really sound the same way they did in past games, right? [[User:Defefefe|Defefefe]] ([[User talk:Defefefe|talk]]) 17:21, July 11, 2023 (EST)
:Could just be different direction, or because they're using entirely original voice clips instead of reused ones. Either way, it's all speculation, so not something that really belongs in the article, unless something official comes out confirming a change. [[User:Landfish7|Landfish7]] ([[User talk:Landfish7|talk]]) 17:31, July 12, 2023 (EDT)
::Check your newsfeed. It's official. Charles is stepping down. [[User:DK Fan|DK Fan]]
:::Saw the news as well, it's a shame Martinet is stepping down after so long, so I hope whoever is taking over as Mario and Luigi does a good job succeeding him [[User:Defefefe|Defefefe]] ([[User talk:Defefefe|talk]]) 14:19, August 21, 2023 (EST)

== Bowser 100% Confirmed ==
Bowser's just been 100% confirmed to be the main villain of this game (though it was kinda obvious from the trailer): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8o3C9jKIc8 [[User:Defefefe|Defefefe]] ([[User talk:Defefefe|talk]]) 18:15, July 29, 2023 (EST)

== Character exclusive powerups ==
So, according to this Brazilian Twitter post, every character will have they're own unique powerup, such as Elephant Mario for example: https://twitter.com/ThaleZOliver/status/1689073032524873728 [[User:Defefefe|Defefefe]] ([[User talk:Defefefe|talk]]) 17:25, August 9, 2023 (EST)
:The screenshots (unless Google Translate is wrong) never mention anything about separate power-ups, only that they can be transformed with "new power-up items". Plus, the second image only mentions Elephant Mario: "''Mario turns into Elephant Mario and can use the trunk to defeat enemies!''" Even if the post is true, we can't exactly use unconfirmed information from an unofficial source like Twitter. At least it does confirm Elephant Mario uses his trunk as an attack, but that was clear beforehand. {{User:NintendoFan08/sig}} 12:15, August 11, 2023 (EDT)

== Charles Martinet Retiring ==
Not sure if this relates to the game or not, but I think I found out why Mario's voice sounds so different. Charles Martinet is officially retiring from voicing characters: https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1693624002982314108 [[User:Defefefe|Defefefe]] ([[User talk:Defefefe|talk]]) 10:35, August 21, 2023 (EST)

== Purple Coin +0.1? ==

Is "Purple Coin +0.1" exclusive to "WFX"? [[User:Ffffff|Ffffff]] ([[User talk:Ffffff|talk]]) 22:47, August 25, 2023 (EDT)
:Judging by the trailer, that does appear to be the case. [[User:Defefefe|Defefefe]] ([[User talk:Defefefe|talk]]) 07:04, August 26, 2023 (EST)

== Levels ==

The Flower Kingdom seems to be the setting of the game, although it could also be the first world. A prominent element of terrain is a mountain range made of giant stone warp pipes, which is visible from several levels and parts of the world map. I watched the trailer and found at least 18 distinct levels, although I am not sure about some of them.
* "'''Welcome to the Flower Kingdom!'''" is the first level of the game. It is grassy, with blue dirt. It features brick blocks, ? blocks, pipes (some of which shoot water), trees, and a fountain. To the left, a body of water separates the Flower Kingdom from the Mushroom Kingdom in the background. Enemies include sleeping goombas. Its wonder effect animates pipes. Power-ups include the Super Mushroom and a fruit that turns Mario into Elephant Mario. It has two wonder seeds and a difficulty of one star. (0:03,0:38,1:18,2:05,2:23)
* "'''Piranha Plants on Parade'''" is the second level of the game. It is a jungle level featuring piranha plants and musical note blocks. There is also a background area that looks playable. It has two wonder seeds and a difficulty of one star. (0:18)
* Very similar to the "Welcome to the Flower Kingdom!" in aesthetic, but features semisolid platforms, spherical hippos and goombrats. It is possibly the third level as seen in the first map shot. (0:22,1:04)
* A level with cubic structures in the background and sliding rails. Enemies include spiked, leaping enemies and angry thunderclouds. In a higher area, there are cloud platforms and spiked, magenta enemies. (0:25,1:49)
* A level featuring rainbow music blocks, clouds that rain water, koopa troopas and paratroopas. Wave and shell-shaped islands are visible in the background. An underwater area or similar level features cheep-cheeps and piped nudibranch-like creatures. (0:29,1:44)
* An autumnal level featuring tall, mushroom-like trees, sloped semisolids, skating koopas and rainbow music blocks. The wonder effect makes Mario, the trees and a Goomba shrink and grow. (0:33,1:06)
* A cave level where Mario turns into a spiked ball and breaks through brick blocks. Enemies include small bumblebee-esque creatures and Spinies. Buried stone slabs resembling rotating blocks appear as decorations. (1:09)
* Three potentially different levels with the same aesthetic. A grassy level featuring sliding rails and a skating Wiggler; a level with rainbow music blocks, barrels and a chipmunk; and a level with angular trees where cloud-like ceratopsians stampede during the wonder effect. (1:15,1:30,1:40)
* Probably the weakest connection. One is a level with balloon-like enemies and giant transparent empty blocks in the background. The other is a level with golden grass on cloudy terrain where Mario uses his hat as a parachute. They have the same cloud style. (1:33,1:51)
* A deep, junglish level with poison, pipes, a snail and a pipe pusher. (1:35)
* A ghost house (probably) where pipes are used to traverse background and foreground. In an outdoor area (set against the desert), an ON/OFF switch turns the lights off and on. (1:41,1:46)
* An autumnal level with bamboo-like enemies, sleeping Goombas, mushroom platforms, orange mushrooms in the background, and pumpkins. (1:47)
* A level in which the wonder effect makes a giant spiked ball roll towards Mario. (1:55)
* A level in which players skydive through clouds that clear away when players pass near them. (1:58)
* A castle in which Mario fights a Bowser Jr.-like boss that shrinks and grows periodically. Bowser's emblem is present in the ceiling. (2:00)
* A level in which players ride a giant snowball that destroys crystal-like terrain. (2:01)
* A level set outside Bowser's Castle, featuring Bullet Bill-like missiles. (2:03)
* Bowser also has a flying vehicle that resembles both a Koopa Clown Car and his castle. It is unknown if this vehicle is a visitable area. (1:38)
* Several unknown levels appear in a pink cloud world (1:39)
[[Special:Contributions/73.220.13.34|73.220.13.34]] 02:11, August 27, 2023 (EDT)
:Welcome to the Flower Kingdom! is definitely eligible for an article, seeing as how we have several screenshots of it and whatnot. Piranha Plants on Parade may have to wait a while potentially, and the others will definitely have to wait until either release or more information surfaces. {{User:NintendoFan08/sig}} 11:47, August 27, 2023 (EDT)

== Possibly ''Maker'' games-inspired features ==

I feel like there are some features that could be inspired by ''Super Mario Maker'' games that are not obvious:
*The Talking Flowers' dialogue feature feels like it is inspired by in-level comments.
*The concept of Wonder Effects feel like they are inspired by night theme effects from ''Maker 2''.
Does anyone feel the same? Could we add these as possibilities?
{{User:Bro Hammer/sig}}
:Idk, it feels more like a coincidence than anything. I don't suggest adding this until we know for sure if these were intentional references to the Mario Maker games. [[User:Defefefe|Defefefe]] ([[User talk:Defefefe|talk]]) 14:24, August 31, 2023 (EST)

== Doors of Doom implies Doors ==

The mimic door enemy Luigi encounters implies real doors will be in the game, similar to the fake pole in [[Shifty Boo Mansion]]. I think it's plausible to assume that Doors will be a transportation option, like pipes. (edit: I'm pretty sure you can actually see a door behind Luigi in the characters section of the direct)
 --[[User:Kitapio T.|Kitapio:]] [[User talk:Kitapio T.|Keepin' it cool]] since 2000 (not even close) 16:22, August 31, 2023 (EDT)


== Unnamed badge ==

I found an unnamed badge in the game's trailer
It has a spiral with an arrow going up. Can someone look into this and post it on the main page? [[Special:Contributions/2.26.40.254|2.26.40.254]] 

[[File:SmartSelect_20230901-145741_Brave.jpg|thumb|alt=An action badge with an up arrow and an upwards spiral.|An unknown badge from Super Mario Bros. Wonder.]]






--[[User:DiamondFan1332|DiamondFan1332]] ([[User talk:DiamondFan1332|talk]]) 12:23, September 26, 2023 (EDT)

== Bloomps & Bulrushes ==

Information about what the Bloomps and Bulrushes do, I hope this helps ^_^

''(All info taken from the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkW4dJ5PF6c Gamescom 2023 video])''

=== Bloomps ===

* Bloomps slowly move and can be bounced on. They deflate the more you bounce on it, before fully deflating
 
* They can also be seen getting inflated from green cannons/bullet bill launchers.
 
* The pink variations move faster and therefore deflate faster

=== Bulrushes ===

* Bulrushes try to ram into the player if they get close, and will destroy any hard blocks in their way.

* They get knocked out for a bit when they hit a wall and will try to ram into the player again after.

-- [[User:MawioMawiolol|MawioMawiolol]]

== Similar poses on the character select screen? ==

I noticed that Peach, Red Yoshi, and Yellow Yoshi's poses on the character select screen might be taken from Mario Party 8, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy, and Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U respectively. Wanted to see what everyone thinks! -- [[User:KinokoBlast|KinokoBlast]] ([[User talk:KinokoBlast|talk]]) 13:02, September 1, 2023 (EST)
<gallery>
File:Mariowondercharacters.jpg|The character select screen for ''Super Mario Bros. Wonder''
File:PeachMP8a.png|Peach's render for ''Mario Party 8''
File:Yoshi Topsy-Turvy - Yoshi artwork.png|Yoshi's artwork for ''Yoshi Topsy-Turvy''
File:YoshiSSB4.png|Yoshi's render for ''Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U''
</gallery>

:I removed ''SSB4'' being a reference from the page earlier, but seeing as multiple of them are similar to past artwork, I think they might be based on them after all. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 13:09, September 1, 2023 (EDT)

== Enemy - Winged Chomp? ==

<gallery>
WingChomps.png|
</gallery>

A winged ball with golden teeth and eyes. Chomps down any blocks in it's way.


-- [[User:MawioMawiolol|MawioMawiolol]] 3:22, September 2, 2023 (GMT+8)

:I added them. By the way, please feel free to add what you find on the page yourself!:) [[User:DesaMatt]] ([[User talk:DesaMatt|talk]]) 2:22, September 2, 2023 (EDT)

== Names confirm. ==

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SMBW Trading Cards.png
</gallery>

Thanks to this promo pic, we now know the names for Bowser and Bowser's Jr's forms and for the walking Piranha Plant Variant (which are [[Castle Bowser]], [[Wonder Bowser Jr.]], and [[Trottin' Piranha Plant]]){{unsigned|SUPEDUPEmario}}

==Wonder effect forms==
Why is Wubba Mario specifically a link, while the others aren't?
Seems very, very, strange to me{{User:Biggestman/sig}} 17:18, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
:I think it's because the names of the other forms haven't been officially confirmed yet? Not sure if Balloon Mario was officially confirmed though (but it's a form that's been seen before). [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 00:05, September 23, 2023 (EDT)

== Super Mario 3D World ==

I am pretty sure that characters turning into beams of light when initiating a Wonder Effect and when waiting too long to enter a Pipe in multiplayer (I cannot remember where exactly I saw this last one, but I do remember seeing it in preview footage) is a reference to Super Mario 3D World where the exact same thing happens with Mystery Boxes, Pipes, etc. in multiplayer. Just wanted to leave this here to hear others' thoughts and to remember this detail.

Edit: NVM on the Pipe part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDY0M5522IY&t=1763s&ab_channel=Flav%C3%A3o {{unsigned|Jumbo Ray}}

== Bulrush Article ==

Would the Bulrushes be eligible for their own article? I feel like they have enough info/media to get one. --[[User:MawioMawiolol|MawioMawiolol]] ([[User talk:MawioMawiolol|talk]]) 08:49, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
:If there's enough information for a full article, then definitely. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 08:50, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

== Possible Musical Reference ==

This YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xrhlv-eu2M8) mentions that the level clear theme may be a reference to a motif from the New Super Mario Bros. series, but I was wondering what you all think since the similarity is pretty weak in my opinion. [[User:Jumbo Ray|Jumbo Ray]] ([[User talk:Jumbo Ray|talk]])
:Yeah that's not the same thing lmao {{User:Biggestman/sig}} 17:40, October 8, 2023 (EDT)

== New Goomba mechanic == 
I don't know if this was noticed before, but it turns out players don't take any damage from Goombas if they are either sleeping or have their backs turned: https://twitter.com/SuperMarioOOC85/status/1710455986182295880 [[User:Defefefe|Defefefe]] ([[User talk:Defefefe|talk]]) 7:57, October 7, 2023 (EST)
:The player can be damaged when a Goomba has its back turned; "Goombas won’t hurt you if you touch them while they sleep and a bit after they wake up" but are still harmful when fully awake, even with their backs turned, as shown in the video. I noted this quality of sleeping Goombas a while back in the main article, though I will add the part about their harmlessness when in the process of waking up. [[User:Jumbo Ray|Jumbo Ray]] ([[User talk:Jumbo Ray|talk]])

== Lava and poison ==

Do lava and poison play different roles in the game?? Both of them will allow Mario to lose a life if touched. There has to be some difference in how they work. An example is that there's a power-up that can allow Mario to walk in lava, but poison will still kill him. [[Special:Contributions/99.157.99.148|99.157.99.148]] 12:12, October 9, 2023 (EDT)
:Firstly, by "power-up", I think you mean the Safety Bounce badge. Second, it's still unconfirmed if there is or not but there most likely isn't. We'll have to wait until the game is out (or when more info surfaces) before we speculate. {{User:NintendoFan08/sig}} 13:04, October 9, 2023 (EDT)

== Forest world known to be World 5?? ==

This page says worlds 1-3 are known but worlds 4 and 5 are not. A page on one of the forest world's levels, however, says that the forest world is world #5. Can anyone check the truth?? [[Special:Contributions/99.157.99.148|99.157.99.148]] 13:49, October 9, 2023 (EDT)

== Fire Flower and Super Star images ==

I noticed that the images for the [[Fire Flower]] and [[Super Star]] are from ''[[Mario Kart 8]]'' and ''[[Mario Party Superstars]]''. Have these images been used for promotion of the game such as on an official website? --[[User:Killer Moth|Killer Moth]] ([[User talk:Killer Moth|talk]]) 14:24, October 13, 2023 (EDT)
:Not sure whether they're the exact same image, but they look very similar to these [https://www.nintendo.com/jp/switch/aqmxa/assets/img/top/powerup_fire_item_pic.png Fire Flower] and [https://www.nintendo.com/jp/switch/aqmxa/assets/img/top/powerup_muteki_item_pic.png Super Star] images used on the official Japanese website. [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 14:41, October 13, 2023 (EDT)

== 10 names of new enemies unrevealed ==

New enemies are not confirmed the names:<br>
Tall mushroom like enemies: Eryngi<br>
Colourful Bamboo stack: Bamboo Stack<br>
Sea-cucumber: Sea Pokey<br>
Snail like enemies: Snail Trooper<br>
Popcorn: Hot-Corn<br>
Owl like enemies: Owlswooper<br>
Tortoise swimming enemies: Sea Koopa<br>
Purple snake: Pottycobra<br>
Purple birds: Carrybird<br>
Firework enemies: Fire-Work<br>
resembling Fry Guys: Flooff<br>
Lava bubble enemies on the ride tracks: Big Lava Bubble<br>
Bone Trottin' Piranha Plant<br>
Big Trottin' Piranha Plant<br>
Big Bloomp<br>
Big Hoppycat<br>
Big Konk<br>
Big Hoppo<br>
Big Smackerel<br>
Burning Spike<br>
Ghost Door<br>
Bloomp Pumper<br>
thunder-like enemies: Electro-Spark<br>
ParaMecha-Koopa
{{unsigned|82.76.149.133}}

: Where are these names from? I haven't seen then ingame. --[[User:PopitTart|PopitTart]] ([[User talk:PopitTart|talk]]) 14:21, October 21, 2023 (EDT)
: Okay. I will be revealed the names soon. --[[User:82.76.149.133|82.76.149.133]] ([[User talk:82.76.149.133|talk]]) 14:26, October 22, 2023 (EDT)
::Please provide evidence for these names. {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:59, October 22, 2023 (EDT)
:::Yes! [[User:Wonderful Seeds|Wonderful Seeds]] ([[User talk:Wonderful Seds|talk]]) 07:00, October 25, 2023 (EET)

== Cloudy Piranhas ==
Where is the name Cloudy Piranha used in the game to refer to the big black Piranha Plants? [[User:1468z|1468z]] ([[User talk:1468z|talk]]) 03:16, October 21, 2023 (EDT)
:The smokey ones around Castle Bowser or the ones blocking levels? The Cloudy Piranha name is used for the former. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 05:27, October 21, 2023 (EDT)
::The ones blocking levels. The article uses gameplay as its source but I don't think they are ever named in-game apart from generic descriptions so it might be that the editor confused them with the cloud ones. [[User:1468z|1468z]] ([[User talk:1468z|talk]]) 05:30, October 21, 2023 (EDT)

== Live Player Shadows and Player Shadows ==

Can some make a page for these two. Live Player Shadows are Shadows of Live players. Player Shadows are Shadows of people who played that level in the past and they can revive ghosts.[[User:OngoingTalent13|OngoingTalent13]] ([[User talk:OngoingTalent13|talk]]) 16:47, October 21, 2023 (EDT)

== Hot-Hot Hot Secret Exit ==

I think the secret exit of Hot-Hot Hot is meant as a reference to the magical potion in Super Mario Bros. 2. Should be added to the "references to other media" section. {{unsigned|174.163.56.84}}

== the dragon pic ==

[[File:SMBW dragon.png|thumb]] {{unsigned|Stanleysus}}

:Added. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:01, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

==rest of the enemies names==

When will we find out the rest of the new enemies names? {{unsigned|174.216.224.122}}

There was a comment showing some of the enemies names out of nowhere, but they aren't confirmed as they havent posted proof yet
Hopefully soon tho, I really wanna refer to thise guys by name {{User:BetterDonutGalaxy/sig}} - 11:12 23rd October, 2023 (CDT)

Proof, please? [[User:Wonderful Seeds]] ([[User talk:Wonderful Seeds|talk]]) - 22:20 23rd October, 2023 (EET)

== Bulls Eye Bill? ==

[[File:BullsEyeBillSMBW.png]]

This right here, probably needs to be considered a different enemy from a Bulls Eye Bill; It looks much different, and behaves a bit differently with the fact its much longer.
I am not sure tho {{User:BetterDonutGalaxy/sig}} ([[User talk:BetterDonutGalaxy|talk]]) 14:59, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

:I agree, we should check the internal name of Bulls Eye Bill in other games and Dragon Bullet in Wonder to see if they match or not.--[[User:Alternis|Alternis]] ([[User talk:Alternis|talk]]) 15:37, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
::I don't know anything about how the game's enemies work right now since I'll be saving my playthrough for a later date, but here's what I can say about the Bullet Bills: this is apparently not Bull's-Eye Bill, which, if I recall right, tends to be either shared as a color swap of Killer or goes under KillerSearch, depending on the game. This enemy's model is labeled as <tt>EnemyKillerJoinNew.bfres.zs</tt> - and, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to be one of the enemies that doesn't have a localization string. I guess it would be "Join Killer" going by the direct internal name, since "New" most likely means that there was an old version of the enemy that for whatever reason got deleted. Other oddities: Seeker Bullet Bill is internally named <tt>EnemyMagChan.bfres.zs</tt> - maybe it wasn't originally a Bullet Bill - and Bloomp is <tt>EnemyKillerBalloon.bfres.zs</tt> - either it is or was supposed to be a Bullet Bill. And if anyone's wondering, Missile Meg is <tt>EnemyKillerLong.bfres.zs</tt> - in other words, its Japanese name. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 16:28, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

Ok, cool! I suppose I'll go ahead and move this new dragon-like bullet bill to the list of new enemies in a moment {{User:BetterDonutGalaxy/sig}} 18:06, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

Done! {{User:BetterDonutGalaxy/sig}} 18:14, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

== Sproings without the shadow effect ==

Hey, so when I was watching a Super Mario Bros Wonder gameplay video, at the penultimate level of the Special World (I think) at one point, we can see the Sproing enemy from the World 1 level Sproings in the Twilight Forest without the shadow effect. From what I remember, their yellow heads looks like a basket, they have green vine springs, and their legs appear to be orange, but this info may be incorrect. Let me know if I am wrong. If it is, do you mind adding the correct info and a picture to the SMBW page? Thanks.  [[Special:Contributions/104.220.88.151|104.220.88.151]] 22:09, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

Ok well funny enough I just added some screenshots of em to this page before seeing this lol, and yeah you got the description correct! I sorta see em as acorns or some other sort of nut {{User:BetterDonutGalaxy/sig}} 22:49, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

== Wonder Effect Hoppycat ==
I have an image to place for the Wonder Effect Hoppycat, but I can't put it in since I'm not an autoconfirmed user yet. So i'll just leave it here for now

[[File:WonderEffectHoppycat.jpg]]

[[User:S0u1f3re|S0u1f3re]] ([[User talk:S0u1f3re|talk]]) 08:11, October 24, 2023 (EDT) 08:10, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
:Thank you, I will add this image to [[Gallery:Super Mario Bros. Wonder|the gallery]]. {{User:NintendoFan08/sig}} 10:30, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
::Scratch what I said before; I couldn't find an appropriate place in the gallery page so I put it on the [[Hoppycat]] page itself for now. {{User:NintendoFan08/sig}} 10:35, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

== Missing Images ==

Here's a few missing images for this page
{|
|+ 
|-
| [[File:Extended Pole Block Horizontal.png|100px|thumb|alt=Extended Pole Block - Horizontal|Extended Pole Block - Horizontal]] || [[File:Extended Pole Block Vertical.png|30px|thumb|alt=Extended Pole Block - Vertical|Extended Pole Block - Vertical]] || [[File:Super Mario Wonder Invisible Coin.png|100px|thumb|alt=Invisible Coin|Invisible Coin]] || [[File:Linking Lift.png|100px|thumb|alt=Linking Lift|Linking Lift]] || [[File:Purple Nosed Electric Enemy.png|100px|thumb|alt=Purple Nosed Electric Enemy (Unknown Name)|Purple Nosed Electric Enemy (Unknown Name)]] || [[File:Purple Bird.png|100px|thumb|alt=Purple Bird Enemy (Unknown Name)|Purple Bird Enemy (Unknown Name)]]
|}
--[[User:Willwulfken|Willwulfken]] ([[User talk:Willwulfken|talk]]) 11:31, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

Oki doki! I'll see if I can add em! {{User:BetterDonutGalaxy/sig}} 16:38, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

Ok now I got most of it in, but where I put the dotted line coin thingy depends on if the version that are instead flowers are considered the same object, its likely so but I wanna know what others think. {{User:BetterDonutGalaxy/sig}} 17:03, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

== Possible Musical Reference II==

I cannot help but feel as though the part of this song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH_rjU_BYJ4&t=52) at 52 seconds in is a reference to something, maybe out of ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' but I am unsure. [[User:Jumbo Ray|Jumbo Ray]] ([[User talk:Jumbo Ray|talk]])

== Triple Lakitu ==

[[File:Triple Lakitu enemy.png|thumb|200px]]
I'm curious, what is the internal name of this enemy?--[[User:Alternis|Alternis]] ([[User talk:Alternis|talk]]) 15:37, October 26, 2023 (EDT)

Triple Lakitu and Long Lakitu Cloud--[[User:Wonderful Seeds|Wonderful Seeds]] ([[User talk:Wonderful Seeds|talk]]) 23:10, October 26, 2023 (EET)

== Enemies name revealed! ==

I have got revealed enemy name!

green snail with pink shells: Swirlypod<br>
tall mushroom like enemies: Trompette<br>
popcorn like enemies: Hotcorn

https://www.gameinformer.com/guide/2023/10/19/super-mario-bros-wonder-flower-coins-and-wonder-seeds-guide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7UY8VXji5o&pp=ygUec3VwZXJtYXJpbyBicm9zIHdvbmRlciBlbmVtaWVz

[[User:Wonderful Seeds|Wonderful Seeds]] ([[User talk:Wonderful Seeds|talk]]) 23:09 (EET), October 26, 2023

Assuming these sources aren't making up names,  good find! I'll add those names in a moment! {{User:BetterDonutGalaxy/sig}} 16:17, October 26, 2023 (EDT)