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==World Pages==
==World Pages==
The pages for every World are split between the NTSC and PAL names. For example, Big Island (World 4) doesn't exist, instead having Giant Land, but Seaside (World 3) takes the place of Water Land. Some worlds don't even exist like Ice Land/Iced Land (World 6) I'm thinking we need to be consistent, but I'm not sure which name to use. I'm leaning toward the PAL names, as they sound more interesting instead of XYZ-Land, though.[[User:Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9FF"><i>Monty Mole</i></font>]] 18:33, 18 August 2006 (EDT)
The pages for every World are split between the NTSC and PAL names. For example, Big Island (World 4) doesn't exist, instead having Giant Land, but Seaside (World 3) takes the place of Water Land. Some worlds don't even exist like Ice Land/Iced Land (World 6) I'm thinking we need to be consistent, but I'm not sure which name to use. I'm leaning toward the PAL names, as they sound more interesting instead of XYZ-Land, though.[[User:Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9FF"><i>Monty Mole</i></font>]] 18:33, 18 August 2006 (EDT)
:Don't most players play the NTSC version, though? Either way, note the other version's name for the world in the article and possibly create redirects. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 19:16, 18 August 2006 (EDT)
:Don't most players play the NTSC version, though? Either way, note the other version's name for the world in the article and possibly create redirects. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 19:16, 18 August 2006 (EDT)
::The name should be the one given in the most recent adaptation of Super Mario Bros. 3, namely the Game Boy Advance version (as released in North America). Newer versions allow for corrections in previous versions, and represent the most canonical source. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]
::The name should be the one given in the most recent adaptation of Super Mario Bros. 3, namely the Game Boy Advance version (as released in North America). Newer versions allow for corrections in previous versions, and represent the most canonical source. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]
::I support this, someone on here decided to revert them to their PRG1 NES names rather than using the PRG0/Japanese/All-Stars/GBA names.  The only one that did not change was Grass Land.


== Pathetic ==
== Pathetic ==
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:It is, indeed. AT LEAST a link to each world... {{User:3dejong/sig|glad to see you, Kelt! Thought you'de gone inactive..}}
:It is, indeed. AT LEAST a link to each world... {{User:3dejong/sig|glad to see you, Kelt! Thought you'de gone inactive..}}
::Yeah, this is truly pitiful. The good thing is, the worlds' articles are lengthy enough for worlds. Still, the game's article should be as long as [[Super Mario Bros.]]'s article. Oh, and, great to see you too. I haven't gone inactive, I've just been VERY, VERY busy writing my science fiction novel. But I sat down to play Paper Mario 2 the other day and remembered Mario Wiki. I was surprised to remember the fact that I hadn't done anything for so long here. o_o;; --[[User:Kelt|King Piranha Plant]] 21:41, 20 January 2007 (EST)
::Yeah, this is truly pitiful. The good thing is, the worlds' articles are lengthy enough for worlds. Still, the game's article should be as long as [[Super Mario Bros.]]'s article. Oh, and, great to see you too. I haven't gone inactive, I've just been VERY, VERY busy writing my science fiction novel. But I sat down to play Paper Mario 2 the other day and remembered Mario Wiki. I was surprised to remember the fact that I hadn't done anything for so long here. o_o;; --[[User:Kelt|King Piranha Plant]] 21:41, 20 January 2007 (EST)
:::SCI-FI NOVEL!?!? O_o! Sweet! {{User:3dejong/sig|who wrote the walkthroughs for the World pages, by the way.}}
::::XD Yeah, I've been working on it for years. I've revised it a lot now and am now re-writing it for the third time. I finished Chapter 44 today and am honestly exhausted of computer, but I had to get on here sooner or later. Heh... Anyway, I'm going to go play my Wii. I'm about to beat Rayman Raving Rabbids. And about SMB3... Perhaps sometime tomorrow we can improve the article heavily with random information that should be on there. --[[User:Kelt|King Piranha Plant]] 21:46, 20 January 2007 (EST)
:::::AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! ALL MY FRIENDS HAVE A WII BUT MII! Oh, well. I'll get one in a couple months. What's the novel about? And I'd love to work with you.. {{User:3dejong/sig|niid a Wii!}}
::::::Leave a message when ready. {{User:3dejong/sig|who'll be waiting!}}
:::::::You have AIM or MSN Messenger? The novel is about many things, strictly chaos from a planet called Celestia overruns Planet Earth and two children (one a sixteen-year-old girl and one a six-year-old boy) make it out alive somehow. They wake up in a futuristic city (Celestiopolis) and their journey through the universe starts there. There's a lot more to it, and more characters that have been developed as well.--[[User:Kelt|King Piranha Plant]]
::::::::I want AIM, but I can't install, thanks to my dad's computer protection software. YOur novel sounds sweet. Wow. Anyhow, tell me when you're on, and we shall... START! Oh, and I was gone for a while there. Sorry. {{User:3dejong/sig|who, as I said, wants to be on 24/7!!!!!}}
== Worlds ==
== Worlds ==
Shouldn't the worlds of SMB3 be moved to the names they had in Super Mario Advance 4? After all, they are the latest and most correct names. {{User:Peachycakes 3.14/sig}}
Shouldn't the worlds of SMB3 be moved to the names they had in Super Mario Advance 4? After all, they are the latest and most correct names. {{User:Peachycakes 3.14/sig}}
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I was only 7 or 8 when I first got this game, but I have an excellent memory and seem to remember something on the back of the box (I live in the U.S., so presumably the U.S. version) that wasn't in the game.  It was one of those flying turtles that you see a lot of in World 5 (NOT a regular Koopa), set against a red sky backdrop.  Anybody else remember this and/or wonder or know what it is?[[User:Thefonz003|Thefonz003]] 21:08, 23 January 2011 (EST)thefonz003
I was only 7 or 8 when I first got this game, but I have an excellent memory and seem to remember something on the back of the box (I live in the U.S., so presumably the U.S. version) that wasn't in the game.  It was one of those flying turtles that you see a lot of in World 5 (NOT a regular Koopa), set against a red sky backdrop.  Anybody else remember this and/or wonder or know what it is?[[User:Thefonz003|Thefonz003]] 21:08, 23 January 2011 (EST)thefonz003
They are called Parabeetles. By the way, in the game's first version, there are pictures not from the game but from the beta version of the game, such as a map. However,the green level with the Parabeetles is not in the beta, nor in the final version. [[User:Kelton2|Kelton2 Supermariofan I GOTTA PEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! User: Kelton2!!!]] 16:02, 25 March 2012 (EDT) 16:02, 25 March 2012 (EDT)
 
Kelton, I wasn't asking what they were called. I was asking if you or anyone else knew anything about the level...the sky was red and I think the Parabeetles were also red...it looks very similar to the finished version of 5-6. Does anyone have a scan of the back of the original box? [[User:Thefonz003|Thefonz003]] ([[User talk:Thefonz003|talk]]) 22:23, 23 August 2013 (EDT)
Here we go. http://gamerfront.net/2009/04/super-mario-3-box-art-features-missing-level/1121
== Use of World names. ==
== Use of World names. ==


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Why exactly is the verb tense all messed up? In one paragraph, I'm seeing both past and present tenses. I'm going to fix this... {{User:Arceus79/sig}} 18:17, 24 March 2012 (EDT)
Why exactly is the verb tense all messed up? In one paragraph, I'm seeing both past and present tenses. I'm going to fix this... {{User:Arceus79/sig}} 18:17, 24 March 2012 (EDT)
== More information? ==
== More information? ==


I think that there needs to be more information on the development. There is somewhere from 2-5 sentences of text. Sorry about my multiple subjects, I'm trying to get this article ready to be nominated  to be the featured article. {{User:Arceus79/sig}} 18:26, 24 March 2012 (EDT)
I think that there needs to be more information on the development. There is somewhere from 2-5 sentences of text. Sorry about my multiple subjects, I'm trying to get this article ready to be nominated  to be the featured article. {{User:Arceus79/sig}} 18:26, 24 March 2012 (EDT)
:I've found that what needs to be fixed is:
:I've found that what needs to be fixed is:
- More information in development. <br>
- More information in development.
- Some information/images for enemies.<br>
- Some information/images for enemies.
- Upload more media


If you think there is more, please add to the list above. <strike>struck out</strike> things have already been completed. {{User:Arceus79/sig}} 18:39, 24 March 2012 (EDT)
If you think there is more, please add to the list above. <strike>struck out</strike> things have already been completed. {{User:Arceus79/sig}} 18:39, 24 March 2012 (EDT)
:I think there should be more Media files. When I get time, I'll upload more! {{User:YoshiKong/sig}}
== PRG0 and PRG1 ==
Apparently, there are two versions of the NTSC rom.
But the question is "What's the Difference?"
--[[User:Arima|Arima]] 20:32, 6 May 2012 (EDT)
:The changes are explained here: http://themushroomkingdom.net/games/smb3#2 [[User:Deezer|Deezer]] ([[User talk:Deezer|talk]])
== Spec ==
I remember reading in Nintendo Power that there were talks for a Super Mario Bros 4 (circa 1992) should this be added into the article? (Wikipedia adds similar things into articles and no one complains)
{{unsigned|BowsersChildhoodFriend}}
:Just because Wikipedia does some bad stuff (they aren't perfect) doesn't mean we should. If you're going to add talks for a Super Mario Bros. 4, this isn't really the right article to do it; it's more fitting for, say, the vaporware article or the Mario series article. If there's no reference for that information, however, please don't add it. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:57, 25 September 2015 (EDT)
::Don't forget that Super Mario World is also known as Super Mario Bros. 4 in Japan.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:33, 26 September 2015 (EDT)
== Images ==
Some images on this page are from all three of the different releases of this game. I think we should stick to one version, as it will make the page look nicer IMO. Not to mention, I'm not too fond of the animated sprites in the enemies section. As for the animation goes, just look at the bosses section. Some are facing opposite directions and waving their wands at different times. Some of them aren't even animated. To stay consistent, I think we should stray away from animated sprites completely. Anyone else agree with me or is it just me? {{User:DKPetey99/sig}}
:Absolutely not. Animated sprites are better, as they show more about what the enemy ''does''. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:14, 10 January 2018 (EST)
== To add VG Atlas maps to the levels from this game? ==
Is this possible? If it is, I'll work on it. --[[File:DyeffersonAzSignature.png|link=User:DyeffersonAz]] ([[User talk:DyeffersonAz|talk]]) 14:37, 3 September 2018 (EDT)
:I believe it's possible, as there are already a few level articles with maps. {{User:YoshiEgg1990/sig}} 14:40, 3 September 2018 (EDT)
::So I think I'll upload this in my spare time. Letting the credits of the work to the maintainers! --[[File:DyeffersonAzSignature.png|link=User:DyeffersonAz]] ([[User talk:DyeffersonAz|talk]]) 14:50, 3 September 2018 (EDT)
== List of items ==
I have noticed that ''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]'' and ''[[Super Mario World]]'' have each a section listing the usable and/or carriable items and powerups, but this article doesn't. The closest thing would be the section listing Mario's and Luigi's powerups (EDIT: to clarify, the characters' powerup forms, not the items giving them those forms), but that still excludes objects like the ankle, the recorder and the cloud. Would it be acceptable to include a dedicated list of items here? --[[Special:Contributions/206.62.162.122|206.62.162.122]] 20:46, October 28, 2021 (EDT)
::You know, guys, just telling me a "no" would have been enough. I don't undertstand why nobody answered. --[[Special:Contributions/206.62.162.123|206.62.162.123]] 23:12, November 14, 2021 (EST)
:::That would probably be a good idea, I'm surprised it's not here to begin with. Apologies for the late response, sometimes talk page messages unfortunately fly under the radar for a while. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:49, January 31, 2022 (EST)
::::I don't understand what "ankle" means here. [[Special:Contributions/99.101.66.106|99.101.66.106]] 14:49, January 31, 2022 (EST)
:::::I think they meant the [[Anchor]]. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 15:03, January 31, 2022 (EST)
== Fourth game in the series?? ==
This says:
''Super Mario Bros. 3 is a platform action-adventure game for the Famicom and NES and is the fourth installment in the Super Mario series.''
Is there a Super Mario Bros. 2 1/2?? If so, what is it?? Or, is [[Mario Bros. (game)|Mario Bros.]] being counted as the first game?? [[Special:Contributions/99.101.66.106|99.101.66.106]] 13:44, January 31, 2022 (EST)
:It's counting [[Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels]]. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:45, January 31, 2022 (EST)
== Strange pre-release box art ==
{{talk}}
[[File:SMB3-BoxArt.jpg|thumb]]
I was watching the [https://youtu.be/eHxlok5cDtA GTV Japan video on ''Super Mario Bros. 3''] when I saw this alternate box art ''(pictured)'' I had never seen before. What is it and what was it for? Was it ever used and where is this screenshot from? {{User:NintendoFan08/sig}} 11:16, November 27, 2022 (EST)
:UPDATE: I FOUND THE SOURCE https://youtu.be/b_ft_6nMnqo {{User:NintendoFan08/sig}} 07:15, December 18, 2022 (EST)
::My speculation is that it's just homemade box art for the game, probably for a display in a local store. --[[User:OmegaRuby|OmegaRuby]] ([[User talk:OmegaRuby|talk]]) 14:08, February 15, 2024 (EST)
:::Hmmm...searching the image with Google Lens only brings up 1 relevant result: a Reddit page. [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|talk]]) 13:44, May 7, 2024 (EDT)
== Move the ID Software information and images to the [[list of unreleased media]] page ==
{{talk}}
As this never had an official release and was in fact '''vetoed by Nintendo''' when presented it, it seems odd to include the information in-whole on the main page, and especially odd to include the sprites on the main game's gallery. I think both should be moved to [[list of unreleased media]] and have the sprites removed from the respective subject's gallery. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:07, February 25, 2024 (EST)
== Super Mario Bros 3 for Famicom Disk System ==
I was looking some pages on wikipedia and then, i looked a list of [[FDS]] games and in the list of unrelased games, and one of the games was Super Mario Bros 3, and think is there a rom, according to [https://www.gog.com/forum/general/super_mario_brothers_3_famicom_disk_system_version_rom| this post]. We just of information and footage. Soon, more information.
[[User:Perfection|Perfection]] ([[User talk:Perfection|talk]]) 14:53, 11/03/2024 (UTC)
:Hmmm... Looking it up, the only ACTUAL RELATED results was a Youtube video about a hack, and the mentioned post. Very interesting... I'll need to get a NES emulator with FDS capabilities, a FDS BIOS ROM, and that SMB3 FDS ROM to test it out myself. [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|talk]]) 12:48, May 6, 2024 (EDT)
Don't forget to send the video, ol' pal.
[[User:Perfection|Perfection]] ([[User talk:Perfection|talk]]) 15:57, 18/06/2024 (UTC)

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