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==(First topic)==
Since the Glitches section only has one glitch (Minus World), and there is an [[Minus World|article]] for this glitch, shouldn't we just remove the glitch section in the article entirely?
Since the Glitches section only has one glitch (Minus World), and there is an [[Minus World|article]] for this glitch, shouldn't we just remove the glitch section in the article entirely?
[[User:Waluigi Freak 99|Waluigi Freak 99]] 17:49, 9 September 2006 (EDT)
[[User:Waluigi Freak 99|Waluigi Freak 99]] 17:49, 9 September 2006 (EDT)
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== Split References in other media section ==
== Split References in other media section ==
{{settled TPP}}
 
{{Proposal outcome|passed|7-0|Split References in other media section}}
{{TPP}}
Remember how, a while back, I proposed that the [[The Super Mario Bros. Movie#References to other media|References to other media]] section of ''[[The Super Mario Bros. Movie]]'' should be moved to [[List of references in The Super Mario Bros. Movie|its own list article]]? That was because of how long it was and how much space it took up. The [[Super Mario Bros.#References in other media|References in other media]] section looks to be of equal length, and should preferably be split into its own list article of the same format.
Remember how, a while back, I proposed that the [[The Super Mario Bros. Movie#References to other media|References to other media]] section of ''[[The Super Mario Bros. Movie]]'' should be moved to [[List of references in The Super Mario Bros. Movie|its own list article]]? That was because of how long it was and how much space it took up. The [[Super Mario Bros.#References in other media|References in other media]] section looks to be of equal length, and should preferably be split into its own list article of the same format.


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#{{User|Killer Moth}} Per all.
#{{User|Killer Moth}} Per all.
#{{User|EvieMaybe}} i wonder what'll be the next game to require this
#{{User|EvieMaybe}} i wonder what'll be the next game to require this
#{{User|Power Flotzo}} Per all.
#{{User Power Flotzo}} Per all.
#{{User|The Eggo55}} Per all.


===Do nothing===
===Do nothing===
===Comments===
===Comments===
:[[User:RetroNintendo2008/sandbox|The sandbox draft is finished.]] {{User:RetroNintendo2008/sig}} 16:27, September 28, 2024 (EDT)
:[[User:RetroNintendo2008/sandbox|The sandbox draft is finished.]] {{User:RetroNintendo2008/sig}} 16:27, September 28, 2024 (EDT)
== Lava collision ==
Actually, it is apparent in the game that the lava found in all castle levels does not harm Mario or Luigi upon contact, contrary to what is stated in the article. Sensible mistake, but a mistake nonetheless. [[Special:Contributions/162.120.22.103|162.120.22.103]] 06:04, February 16, 2025 (EST)
== Re-merge the references in later games ==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|7-0|Re-merge}}
A few months ago, there was [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/72#Normalise_splitting_long_References_to.2Fin_other_media_sections|a failed proposal]] to split off long references sections. With that in mind, I'm following up with a reversal of the above proposal that split [[list of references to Super Mario Bros.]] into its own page. Basically, the follow-up proposal failed because we already have the [[MarioWiki:Article size|article size]] guideline to determine when to split long pages. Although the references in later media list was somewhat lengthy, the page prior to its removal was only ~93k bytes, far below the 150k byte minimum before considering a split. Re-merging would be consistent with the majority view in that proposal as well as our article size guideline.
'''Proposer''': {{User|Waluigi Time}}<br>
'''Deadline''': April 6, 2025, 23:59 GMT
===Re-merge===
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Hewer}} I always found this split a little awkward.
#{{User|Nintendo101}} Per proposal.
#{{User|EvieMaybe}} per!
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per proposal.
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} I like consistency. per all.
#{{User|Power Flotzo}} Per all.
===Leave split===
===References in later comments===
==Split the 25th anniversary Wii port==
{{TPP}}
We have a separate article for ''[[Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition]]'', which has the same amount of differing content from its original incarnation in the game itself (mostly the title screen) - not counting press materials - as this. Same for ''[[Donkey Kong Classics]]''. This game is separate from the main [[Virtual Console]] version of ''[[Super Mario Bros.]]'', being a port with (minimal) differences that does hold some amount of historical significance for being a red [[Wii]] pack-in title for Mario's 25th anniversary.
'''Proposer''': {{User|Nelsonic}}<br/>
'''Deadline''': May 1, 2025, 23:59 GMT
===Split===
#{{User|Rykitu}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Nelsonic}} Forgot to vote, oops. Per proposal.
#{{User|Kaptain Skurvy}} Sure
#{{User|EvieMaybe}} per prop
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA) 25th Anniversary Edition}} Per.
===Don't split===
===25th Anniversary Comments===
Does this mean we have to split ''Donkey Kong Original Edition'' too? Almost every reason you had for ''25th Anniversary SUPER MARIO BROS.'' to be split can also be applied to ''Donkey Kong Original Edition''. The game was pre-installed on the European edition of the 25th Mario Anniversary red Wii, it has differing content from the original NES release, and the original NES release has also seen a Virtual Console release alongside ''Original Edition''. {{User:Kaptain Skurvy/sig}} 16:26, April 17, 2025 (EDT)
:I would prefer both be split, yes. I have put a proposal on the ''Donkey Kong'' page to split ''Original Edition''. [[User:Nelsonic|Nelsonic]] ([[User talk:Nelsonic|talk]]) 16:28, April 17, 2025 (EDT)
''All-Stars Limited Edition'' was a physical disk that came with a design booklet for the series and a soundtrack disk. From what I can tell, this is just a pre-installed VC game on a limited edition red Wii. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:58, April 17, 2025 (EDT)
:{{@|Doc von Schmeltwick}} From what I can tell based on the {{iw|TCRF|The Cutting Room Floor}} article, ''[[Super Mario All-Stars Limited Edition]]'' was also a Virtual Console game, just on a disk (plus extra materials). [[User:Nelsonic|Nelsonic]] ([[User talk:Nelsonic|talk]]) 21:00, April 21, 2025 (EDT)
::It being on a physical disk rather than exclusively being built-in to specific consoles is a point in SMASLE's favor. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:54, April 21, 2025 (EDT)
We're a bit skeptical... While we understand the thought process--unique release with differing graphics--we can't say we appreciate the precedent this sets. Namely, where do you draw the line on "unique release"? In an extreme case, you could use this as a precedent to later split, say, the PC-88 and Sharp X1 versions of ''[[Super Mario Bros. Special]]'', or the 4 versions of ''[[Donkey Kong 3: Dai Gyakushū]]'' that we only have half of, when the only differences are usually just audiovisual. And in our opinion, as the accidental rising star for those games, those versions should absolutely ''not'' be split; there just are not substantial enough differences between them. Would the idea be that the versions for different computers for those games don't count as a "unique release", unlike the 25th Anniversary edition? What exactly makes a release "unique", anyways? {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 13:09, April 22, 2025 (EDT)
:{{@|Camwoodstock}} Yeah, I think a unique release is mostly constituted as whether or not the game has a unique title (''Super Mario Bros.'' vs. ''25th Anniversary SUPER MARIO BROS.''), is marketed as a separate release (25ASMB was a pre-installed "special game" for red Wiis, while, say, the Virtual Console version of ''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]'' was marketed as "play ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' on a new console"), and features new content (to use an example that also features a minor amount of new content, ''[[New Super Mario Bros. U + New Super Luigi U]]'' features videos that the original(s) do not, in the same manner that this game reskins [[? Blocks]] and ''[[All Night Nippon: Super Mario Bros.]]'' merges ''[[Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels]]'' and ''Super Mario Bros.'' and reskins certain enemies and objects). I agree that differing PC versions of games released on multiple home computers would not warrant a split, in the same manner that we don't split both the [[Family Computer]] and [[Nintendo Entertainment System]] versions of ''[[Super Mario Bros. 3]]'' from each other. [[User:Nelsonic|Nelsonic]] ([[User talk:Nelsonic|talk]]) 15:24, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

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