Editing Talk:Super Mario 64 DS

From the Super Mario Wiki, the Mario encyclopedia
Jump to navigationJump to search
You are not logged in. Your IP address will be publicly visible if you make any edits. If you log in or create an account, your edits will be attributed to your username, along with other benefits.

The edit can be undone. Please check the comparison below to verify that this is what you want to do, and then publish the changes below to finish undoing the edit.

Latest revision Your text
Line 1: Line 1:
{{no forum talk}}
{{notforumtalk}}
{{award-winner
|year=First
|#=22|award=Best Remake|presenter=Phoenix Rider
}}
{{award-winner
|year=second
|#=22
|award=Best Remake
|presenter=Wayoshi
}}
Shouldn't we merge this article with ''[[Super Mario 64]]''? It's simply a remake w/ some newly created challenges, more characters and a slightly different storyline. The powers and levels are still the same, with improved graphics. [[User:Wayoshi|Wayoshi]] 20:57, 3 July 2006 (EDT)
Shouldn't we merge this article with ''[[Super Mario 64]]''? It's simply a remake w/ some newly created challenges, more characters and a slightly different storyline. The powers and levels are still the same, with improved graphics. [[User:Wayoshi|Wayoshi]] 20:57, 3 July 2006 (EDT)


Line 97: Line 107:


== Split Mario and Yoshi's Power Flower Forms from this article. ==
== Split Mario and Yoshi's Power Flower Forms from this article. ==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{SettledTPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|7-0-2-0-0|Create articles for both forms}}
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|7-0-2-0-0|Create articles for both forms}}
Now correct me if I am wrong, but I do not see any articles for Mario's floating power or Yoshi's fire breath. I know there is an article for Bowser's Fire Breath that mentions Yoshi's power-up, but does not even have quarter of the info I would put on a page if it was created. So, to keep consistency I would also create a page for Mario's Power Flower power too. Luigi and Wario's Power Flower powers got merged into their respective articles. So I think both of these power-ups deserve their own page.
Now correct me if I am wrong, but I do not see any articles for Mario's floating power or Yoshi's fire breath. I know there is an article for Bowser's Fire Breath that mentions Yoshi's power-up, but does not even have quarter of the info I would put on a page if it was created. So, to keep consistency I would also create a page for Mario's Power Flower power too. Luigi and Wario's Power Flower powers got merged into their respective articles. So I think both of these power-ups deserve their own page.


Line 221: Line 231:


== More specific mission character requirements ==
== More specific mission character requirements ==
{{settled TPP}}
{{TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|5-0-0|Change all level tables}}
===Change the level section to include more specific character requirements===
===Change the level section to include more specific character requirements===
I was thinking about maybe making it more specific to show which missions characters can do? I am mostly fine with the current version but if I am allowed to make some changes that would be nice. Specifically, the changes to the character section. I am showing an example of this here. The collapsed table is just to avoid clutter here, and the tag will not be put into the article. Checkmarks stand for missions each character can complete, caps show that a character can complete the mission if a proper cap is collected in the level, and an x indicates that the character cannot enter the level, or if they can (though I don't know if this is even possible unless the character isn't unlocked yet), they cannot complete the mission (this is only done for BBH and character-exclusive levels). Also note that a cap might only be used to overcome an obstacle; once that obstacle is cleared, the character can dispose the cap and finish it using their original selves. For example saying "Mario" for Koopa's Footrace would indicate that only Mario can complete the level, whereas with my chart shown below, it shows that any character can complete it as long as they have the Mario cap on for the race, but they can dispose of it later and complete it as Yoshi, Luigi, or Wario (Koopa even says a unique quite if anyone other than Mario beats him). So to avoid confusion, and to make it more clear which requirements are needed, I propose changing the table (for courses, which are the 15 major levels, at least) to the one shown below.
I was thinking about maybe making it more specific to show which missions characters can do? I am mostly fine with the current version but if I am allowed to make some changes that would be nice. Specifically, the changes to the character section. I am showing an example of this here. The collapsed table is just to avoid clutter here, and the tag will not be put into the article. Checkmarks stand for missions each character can complete, caps show that a character can complete the mission if a proper cap is collected in the level, and an x indicates that the character cannot enter the level, or if they can (though I don't know if this is even possible unless the character isn't unlocked yet), they cannot complete the mission (this is only done for BBH and character-exclusive levels). Also note that a cap might only be used to overcome an obstacle; once that obstacle is cleared, the character can dispose the cap and finish it using their original selves. For example saying "Mario" for Koopa's Footrace would indicate that only Mario can complete the level, whereas with my chart shown below, it shows that any character can complete it as long as they have the Mario cap on for the race, but they can dispose of it later and complete it as Yoshi, Luigi, or Wario (Koopa even says a unique quite if anyone other than Mario beats him). So to avoid confusion, and to make it more clear which requirements are needed, I propose changing the table (for courses, which are the 15 major levels, at least) to the one shown below.
Line 287: Line 296:
|}
|}
'''Proposer''': {{User|Altendo}}<br>
'''Proposer''': {{User|Altendo}}<br>
'''Deadline''': <s>December 8, 23:59 GMT</s> December 20, 2023 23:59 GMT
'''Deadline''': "December 8, 23:59 GMT"


====Change all level tables====
====Change all level tables====
#{{User|Altendo}} I think this will make it more clear on what character requirements are required to complete each mission.
#{{User|Altendo}} I think this will make it more clear on what character requirements are required to complete each mission.
#{{User|DrippingYellow}} Per proposer.
#{{User|SolemnStormcloud}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Power Flotzo}} Per all.
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per all.
====Change only course tables====
====Change only course tables====


Line 302: Line 306:
====Comments====
====Comments====
Psst. Talk page proposals last two weeks, not two days. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 09:06, December 6, 2023 (EST)
Psst. Talk page proposals last two weeks, not two days. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 09:06, December 6, 2023 (EST)
@Altendo I agree that this arrangement is a lot more pleasing, but personally I think it would look better if you used the cap sprites from the Touch Screen map ([[File:SM64DS_MarioCap.png]][[File:SM64DS LuigiCap.png]][[File:SM64DS_WarioCap.png]]), rather than shrunken-down official renders. I'd also make the checkmarks and such 16px, since that's the width of the cap sprites, and put the "|center" tag in the image links to make them look better. Like so:
{|border="1"cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 align="center"bgcolor=#fdfffd style="color:black" width=98% class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"
!colspan=7 bgcolor=#f0fff0|<big>Courses</big>
|-
!colspan=7 bgcolor=#f6fff6|[[File:Bob-omb Battlefield 64DS.png|280px]]<br>[[File:SM64DS Bob-omb Battlefield Course Icon.png|link=Bob-omb Battlefield]]
|-style=background:#fafffa
!width=2%|#
!width=22%|Mission
!width=52%|How to get the Star
!Yoshi
!Mario
!Luigi
!Wario
|-
|1
|[[Big Bob-omb on the Summit]]
|Yoshi has to go to the top of the mountain and fight the [[King Bob-omb|Big Bob-omb]] to obtain the Power Star. To do this, Yoshi must slurp [[Bob-omb]]s and spit them at him, while the other player characters must pick them up and throw them back at him.
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|-
|2
|[[Footrace with Koopa the Quick]]
|The player has to race up the mountain against [[Koopa the Quick]]. If the player uses the [[cannon]]s, Koopa considers that cheating, and the player does not receive the Power Star. However, using the [[warp]]s is not considered cheating.
|[[File:SM64DS MarioCap.png|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:SM64DS MarioCap.png|16px|center]]
|[[File:SM64DS MarioCap.png|16px|center]]
|-
|3
|[[5 Silver Stars!]]
|The player must collect the five [[Silver Star]]s scattered around the battlefield. In this mission, a [[Chain Chomp|Chain-Chomp]] is running loose with one of the Silver Stars at the end of its chain. This Star does not appear in the original, replacing [[Shoot to the Island in the Sky]].
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|-
|4
|[[Big Bob-omb's Revenge]]
|The player has to fight the Big Bob-omb one last time, but this time the player must pick him up and throw him three times. Yoshi cannot fight him this time, unless he uses caps. If the player throws the Big Bob-omb off the mountain, he does not count the throw. This Star does not appear in the original.
|[[File:SM64DS MarioCap.png|16px|center]][[File:SM64DS LuigiCap.png|16px|center]][[File:SM64DS WarioCap.png|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|-
|5
|[[Mario Wings to the Sky]]
|The player has to [[fly]] straight through the middle of the coin circles in the sky, collecting all five middle coins. If the player is not playing as Mario, the coins can still be collected via cannon.
|rowspan="3"|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|rowspan="3"|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|rowspan="3"|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|rowspan="3"|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|-
|6
|[[Find the 8 Red Coins]]
|The player has to collect all eight [[Red Coin]]s scattered around the battlefield.
|-
|7
|[[Behind Chain Chomp's Gate|Behind Chain-Chomp's Gate]]
|The player has to unleash the Chain-Chomp by ground-pounding the [[stump]] it is chained to. If the player is Luigi, he can simply [[dash|run]] through the cage with his Power Flower power to get the Star without having to do anything to the Chain-Chomp, and the stump can be [[Ground Pound|ground-pounded]] only once as Wario or if any character eats a [[Super Mushroom|mushroom]] that is inside a [[Block (Super Mario 64)|Brick]].
|}
- [[User:DrippingYellow|DrippingYellow]] ([[User talk:DrippingYellow|talk]]) 13:20, December 6, 2023 (EST)
Honestly, I don't think this needs a proposal at all. If you have a way to improve the tables, just do it, and see if anyone has any problems with it. If they do, address them. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 09:55, December 12, 2023 (EST)
:Just for future maintenance's sake I'd rather keep repetition of checkmarks than rowspan them. {{User:Mario/sig}} 02:48, December 16, 2023 (EST)
::I wholeheartedly agree. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:12, December 17, 2023 (EST)

Please note that all contributions to the Super Mario Wiki are considered to be released under the Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license (see MarioWiki:Copyrights for details). If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here. You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!

Cancel Editing help (opens in new window)