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In ''Items'', ''Objects'' and ''Species'' section, some kinds of Mushroom (Super Mushroom, 1-Up Mushroom, Poison Mushroom, etc.), Flowers (Fire Flower, Ice Flower), Coins (Coin, Red Coin), Blocks (? Block, Brick Block, ♪ Block), Goombas (Goomba, Paragoomba) and specially Koopas (Koopa Troopa, Buzzy Beetle, Magikoopa, False Bowser, Spiny, Hammer Bro., etc.), many are missing. So, I think we must separate them by larger groups (''Koopas'' and ''Flowers'', for example). {{proposal-link|Arrange Kinds}} | In ''Items'', ''Objects'' and ''Species'' section, some kinds of Mushroom (Super Mushroom, 1-Up Mushroom, Poison Mushroom, etc.), Flowers (Fire Flower, Ice Flower), Coins (Coin, Red Coin), Blocks (? Block, Brick Block, ♪ Block), Goombas (Goomba, Paragoomba) and specially Koopas (Koopa Troopa, Buzzy Beetle, Magikoopa, False Bowser, Spiny, Hammer Bro., etc.), many are missing. So, I think we must separate them by larger groups (''Koopas'' and ''Flowers'', for example). {{proposal-link|Arrange Kinds}} | ||
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== Rename [[Mario (series)]] to [[Mario (franchise)]] == | == Rename [[Mario (series)]] to [[Mario (franchise)]] == | ||
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This article is what can be called the greatest bridge among the great content that covers all the stuff related to Mario in this wiki, it could be said it is our "main article", content-wise talking. This article does not "discriminate" among the content it covers, it has every Mario-labeled game that has been released so far, every major character that has appeared within the media, every subseries it is divided on, major items and power-ups that have been present in the games, extended media that ranges from comic book adaptations and similar publications, animated cartoons, a live-action feature film and the cultural impact is has had worldwide in more than 30 years of history since 1981. Don't you feel referring to all these as "series" seems to limited? we are talking about a media franchise, in fact, the main paragraph at the start of the article already states that so why contradict it? referring to it as a "series" seems too specific because that word only ranges to very similar entries that have particularly something in common, but as a franchise it gets extended to a more ample point of view. Let's remember that this article being called "Mario (series)" already enters in conflict with another title and that's the core Super Mario (series), which is also called the "Mario (series)", this does not mean to redirect the page, but rather, make a huge contrast between the franchise and its most important series. This page deserves to be called a franchise for the sake of the huge Mario media that exists, though it is mostly video games, there is stuff in the Mario franchise that aren't video games and this article is clearly pointing it, all are derivative works and that my fellows, is what a media franchise is. The only thing it is missing in the coverage is merchandise like toys, but there are separate pages for that, though. If this proposal gets passed, I'd also recommend to rewrite the link on the main page so it reads "Mario franchise" as well. Remember, it's more than just video games. | This article is what can be called the greatest bridge among the great content that covers all the stuff related to Mario in this wiki, it could be said it is our "main article", content-wise talking. This article does not "discriminate" among the content it covers, it has every Mario-labeled game that has been released so far, every major character that has appeared within the media, every subseries it is divided on, major items and power-ups that have been present in the games, extended media that ranges from comic book adaptations and similar publications, animated cartoons, a live-action feature film and the cultural impact is has had worldwide in more than 30 years of history since 1981. Don't you feel referring to all these as "series" seems to limited? we are talking about a media franchise, in fact, the main paragraph at the start of the article already states that so why contradict it? referring to it as a "series" seems too specific because that word only ranges to very similar entries that have particularly something in common, but as a franchise it gets extended to a more ample point of view. Let's remember that this article being called "Mario (series)" already enters in conflict with another title and that's the core Super Mario (series), which is also called the "Mario (series)", this does not mean to redirect the page, but rather, make a huge contrast between the franchise and its most important series. This page deserves to be called a franchise for the sake of the huge Mario media that exists, though it is mostly video games, there is stuff in the Mario franchise that aren't video games and this article is clearly pointing it, all are derivative works and that my fellows, is what a media franchise is. The only thing it is missing in the coverage is merchandise like toys, but there are separate pages for that, though. If this proposal gets passed, I'd also recommend to rewrite the link on the main page so it reads "Mario franchise" as well. Remember, it's more than just video games. | ||
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== Move to "Super Mario (franchise)" -- proposal == | == Move to "Super Mario (franchise)" -- proposal == | ||
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To recap what I said right above, what is referred to here as the "Mario" brand, which includes spin-offs and miscellaneous merch, is universally promoted by official entities as "Super Mario", and I think the wiki should duly reflect this state of affairs. The latter label is used in: | To recap what I said right above, what is referred to here as the "Mario" brand, which includes spin-offs and miscellaneous merch, is universally promoted by official entities as "Super Mario", and I think the wiki should duly reflect this state of affairs. The latter label is used in: | ||
*Nintendo's websites | *Nintendo's websites | ||
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Something that occurred to me - would this also move all the [[List of Mario references]] pages? I'm assuming it would but it's worth bringing up. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 14:31, May 22, 2023 (EDT) | Something that occurred to me - would this also move all the [[List of Mario references]] pages? I'm assuming it would but it's worth bringing up. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 14:31, May 22, 2023 (EDT) | ||
:I suppose so, since the word "Mario" is italicised in their titles, indicating a reference to the franchise and not the character himself. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 15:09, May 22, 2023 (EDT) | :I suppose so, since the word "Mario" is italicised in their titles, indicating a reference to the franchise and not the character himself. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 15:09, May 22, 2023 (EDT) | ||