Editing Talk:Super Duel Mode

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Now I see why you two have been uploading all these combinations. [[User:TVTrash|TVTrash]] ([[User talk:TVTrash|talk]]) 02:08, 20 January 2014 (EST)
:We're brilliant. {{User:Mario/sig}} 02:10, 20 January 2014 (EST)
In 1-on-1, when the player's final challenger is introduced, the challenging character has a nickname of sorts. E.g. Perfect Luigi, Pretty Girl Daisy, Bad Boy Koopa Kid. Should these be included? And, if so, where? [[User:J-Yoshi64|J-Yoshi64]] ([[User talk:J-Yoshi64|talk]]) 21:38, 15 January 2015 (EST)
:Hey go ahead and add them! Specifically in the character vehicle combination section, underneath their names. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 22:11, 15 January 2015 (EST)
::Small problem: I only know those three. Time to go to Super Duel Mode! <sub>If only my brother weren't playing something else at the moment...</sub> [[User:J-Yoshi64|J-Yoshi64]] ([[User talk:J-Yoshi64|talk]]) 19:27, 17 January 2015 (EST)
::Okay, so I have all the nicknames I just need to know where in the chart to put them. Let's take "Last Hero Mario"'s section to brainstorm.
{|style="text-align: center; width: 100%; margin: 0 auto; border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"
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!Last Hero Mario<br>[[File:Mario Mugshot Party 5.png]]
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|Super Dash<br>[[File:Super Dash 5.png|200px]]<br>[[Mario]]'s prize <span style="color:red">machine</span>. Well-balanced, like our hero!
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| Body Type: Choo-Choo Body<br> Tires: Star Tires<br> Weapon: E. Gadd Cannon
|}
Should the nickname be in place of the actual name as shown above? If it should be separate, should it just have the nickname, or should it say "Nickname: Last Hero Mario"? And where would the nickname go, if separate? Right underneath Mario's name? Should it be underneath his picture? Should it be with the machine parts (which makes no sense)? [[User:J-Yoshi64|J-Yoshi64]] ([[User talk:J-Yoshi64|talk]]) 20:36, 18 January 2015 (EST)

== Split machine parts into their own articles? ==

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I'll preface this by saying I have never played MP5 and as such this is WAY out of my territory, but the machine parts in this game seem to be the precedent for what MK7 and MK8 do, and have their own statistics. I feel we can and should split them. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:40, September 4, 2022 (EDT)
:They do have their own statistics but I don't think it's very well documented on what they do. It's sort of similar to that [[List of Mario Tennis Open Mii gear|stupid Mii dress-up sidemode]] in ''Mario Tennis Open'' where technically each part has a stat associated but ''Mario Tennis Open'' handled that even more obtusely with no good explanation of any stat and you're given a confusing pie chart to show a stat; it's hard to tell how a part modifies stats. They even have hidden attributes, such as weapons having weight (the Mr. I laser for instance won't decrease the machine speed as much as the DK Gun will). The Scholar Body ALSO does take less damage from hazards per description but isn't shown in the graph; the Wiggler Tires can turn in place. Some weapons have strange offensive capabilities too such as the Mr. I Laser (it's a broken weapon lol) doesn't always take off two hearts but will if there are only two hearts remaining; maybe it does damage in decimals). {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:44, September 4, 2022 (EDT)
::Wonder how easily internal variables can be obtained for this... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:04, September 4, 2022 (EDT)
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 == Split machine parts into their own articles? ==
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 I'll preface this by saying I have never played MP5 and as such this is WAY out of my territory, but the machine parts in this game seem to be the precedent for what MK7 and MK8 do, and have their own statistics. I feel we can and should split them. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:40, September 4, 2022 (EDT)
-:They do have their own statistics but I don't think it's very well documented on how they interact with the statistics. It's sort of similar to that [[List of Mario Tennis Open Mii gear|stupid Mii dress-up sidemode]] in ''Mario Tennis Open'' where technically each part has a stat associated but ''Mario Tennis Open'' handled that even more obtusely with no good explanation of any stat and you're given a confusing pie chart to show a stat; it's hard to tell how a part modifies stats. They even have hidden attributes, such as weapons having weight (the Mr. I laser for instance won't decrease the machine speed as much as the DK Gun will). The Scholar Body ALSO does take less damage from hazards per description but isn't shown in the graph; the Wiggler Tires can turn in place. Some weapons have strange offensive capabilities too such as the Mr. I Laser (it's a broken weapon lol) doesn't always take off two hearts but will if there are only two hearts remaining; maybe it does damage in decimals). {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:44, September 4, 2022 (EDT)
+:They do have their own statistics but I don't think it's very well documented on what they do. It's sort of similar to that [[List of Mario Tennis Open Mii gear|stupid Mii dress-up sidemode]] in ''Mario Tennis Open'' where technically each part has a stat associated but ''Mario Tennis Open'' handled that even more obtusely with no good explanation of any stat and you're given a confusing pie chart to show a stat; it's hard to tell how a part modifies stats. They even have hidden attributes, such as weapons having weight (the Mr. I laser for instance won't decrease the machine speed as much as the DK Gun will). The Scholar Body ALSO does take less damage from hazards per description but isn't shown in the graph; the Wiggler Tires can turn in place. Some weapons have strange offensive capabilities too such as the Mr. I Laser (it's a broken weapon lol) doesn't always take off two hearts but will if there are only two hearts remaining; maybe it does damage in decimals). {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:44, September 4, 2022 (EDT)
 ::Wonder how easily internal variables can be obtained for this... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:04, September 4, 2022 (EDT)
-:::I'd argue that some of the parts, most notably the weapons, actually change more in terms of gameplay than the vehicle parts in Mario Kart so I definitely think they should get their own articles. Plus, the names in other languages section is an eyesore for individual part names and I'd like to get that sorted out. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 20:16, September 4, 2022 (EDT)
-== Split the relevant objects ==
-{{Settled TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|passed|1-0-6-0-0|Split only machine parts and misc. objects}}
-So this side mode has enough content to be a game of its own. However, of its unique subjects, only the arenas have their own articles. Several things else here, however, can and should be split.
-# All machine parts (essentially a MK7/8 kart build forerunner, but the weapons are especially different from each other)
-# All CPU machine combinations (with driver nicknames)
-# Misc. objects (Robo-Rabbit and flag)
-so I propose to split them.
-'''Proposer:''' {{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}}<br>
-'''Deadline:''' September 30, 2022, 23:59 GMT
-===Split all (1,2,3)===
-#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per
-===Split only machine parts and CPU machines (1,2)===
-<s> #{{User|Mari0fan100}} Apologies for having this proposal go all over the place, but I think the miscellaneous objects aren't long enough to have their own articles. I'm ok with splitting the other stuff, though. </s>
-===Split only machine parts and misc. objects (1,3)===
-#{{User|ShootingStar7X}} Just because CPU combinations have a name and description doesn't make them any more notable than they'd be otherwise, I'd say.
-#{{User|Killer Moth}} Per ShootingStar7X. The CPU combinations feel unnecessary to make separate pages for. However having pages for the machine parts and misc. objects makes sense and can be done,
-#{{User|Spectrogram}} per all, I'm always in support of covering objects on their own articles.
-#{{User|Ray Trace}} Per all and my comments above.
-#{{User|Mari0fan100}} Changing my vote, per all except Doc. Sorry for being a bit hasty with my first vote.
-#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per all. I see no reason to make separate pages for the CPU combinations; if a combination is formed using a certain part, a brief mention of the combination within that part's article would be enough.
-===Split only machine parts (1)===
-===Do nothing===
-===Comments===
-No offense, but this talk page proposal seems a bit confusing to me? There's five different options, and I'm having trouble figure out which one to decide, but I probably won't choose the "do nothing" option. [[User:Mari0fan100|Mari0fan100]] ([[User talk:Mari0fan100|talk]]) 01:24, September 16, 2022 (EDT)
-:I added a key to correspond with the list of categories at the top. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:40, September 16, 2022 (EDT)
-::Thanks! I added in my vote. [[User:Mari0fan100|Mari0fan100]] ([[User talk:Mari0fan100|talk]]) 11:05, September 16, 2022 (EDT)
-Could we at least figure out how parts modify stats first? {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 16:06, September 16, 2022 (EDT)
-:I don't plan on enacting this immediately, just put it as a known long-term goal. (Honestly stat things shoulda been on here before this became a featured article, but I digress.) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:13, September 16, 2022 (EDT)