Editing Talk:Stripe Pointer

Categories "Items" and "Playable Characters"? Wouldn't [[:Category:Game Mechanics|Game Mechanics]] make more sense? {{User:Time Q/sig}} 06:56, 6 October 2008 (EDT)

== Is this page even necessary? ==

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I'm not sure how something this generic deserves to have its own article. It's just a cursor, nothing more. Shall we delete it? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 19:23, 3 December 2018 (EST)
:Merge it with the section on the SNES article regarding the mouse, I'd say. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:27, 3 December 2018 (EST)
::Perhaps we could instead create on article for pointers/other navigational things , such as the pointer in the [[Nintendo 3DS]] and [[Nintendo Switch]] version of [[Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker]] as this would likely be an exepction in [[MarioWiki:Generic subjects|generic subjects policy]] as pointers/other navigational things uses vary. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 19:38, 3 December 2018 (EST)

== Delete or expand this page ==

{{TPP}}
Given the content on this page, it would normally qualify as a [[MarioWiki:Generic subjects|generic subject]], and should therefore be deleted.

However, in light of Doomhiker's suggestion above, I'd say that we should likely expand this article. Other games such as ''[[Super Mario Galaxy 2]]'', ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]'', and the 3DS/Switch versions of ''[[Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker]]'' make extended use of a "cursor" which '''might''' be worth documenting since it's potentially less generic. If that happens, I say we rename this page to {{fake link|Cursor}} and use {{tem|main}} to link to [[Star Cursor]].

Otherwise, I'd propose deleting it as a generic subject.

'''Proposer:''' {{User|Toadette the Achiever}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' December 18, 2018, 23:59 GMT

===Delete===
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} My preferred option.
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} It's a standard cursor and doesn't need an article.
#{{User|Alex95}} - Unless this is the official name, I don't see much point to this article to begin with. It's a standard mouse cursor. Merging the other cursors to this page would likely still qualify it as a generic subject, as all they do is point, click, and other things a standard cursor can do (except for the [[Star Cursor]], which can do a bit more).
#{{User|GrainedCargo192}} I don't see why there is an article about this, it's pretty much useless having an article about a plain cursor.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per Alex95. I also feel the Star Cursor should remain on its own article.
#{{User|WeirdDave13}} Per all
#{{User|bwburke94}} Per all.

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#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Second choice. P.S.: If you vote here, please tell me what you think should be included in this article.
#{{User|Doomhiker}} Per my comment in the discussion above I personally think that there is enough unique uses of the curser to warrant a full article. As for cursers that should definitely be included in the article if this option passes would include the curser from 3DS/Switch versions of ''[[Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker]]'', as that curser can stun enemies and throw [[turnip]]s, and also the curser from ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]'', with its ability being similar from the curser for Captain Toad (except for the turnip-trowing capabilities). Another potential curser to be included in this article would be the cursers from the ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' series, with its ability to trow [[Star Bit]]s. Potentially the curser from ''[[Super Mario Maker]]'' could also get in due to its ability to change the look of the hand, but that probably would still qualify as a [[MarioWiki:Generic subjects|generic subject]].
#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per all.

===Leave as is===

===Comments===
@Doomhiker The SMG one is called the [[Star Cursor]], which has an article. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 19:02, 4 December 2018 (EST)

I don't see why Star Cursor has to be merged to a generic "Cursor" page when it has an official name of its own. My point was the "Cursor" page could use {{tem|main}} to link to Star Cursor. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 19:45, 4 December 2018 (EST)
:Is there any source for the name Stripe Pointer? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 03:55, 11 December 2018 (EST)
::A quick Google search found only ''one'' non-Mario Wiki use of the term, which is [http://www.elginpk.com/worsley1011_2/jeong/3items.htm probably copied from us anyway]. [[User:Niiue|Niiue]] ([[User talk:Niiue|talk]]) 04:04, 11 December 2018 (EST)
:::A search on the engine I used (with the quotation marks) found a few uses on a cursor-based website, suggesting it may be a valid generic phrase for striped cursors. [http://www.gamesdatabase.org/Media/SYSTEM/Nintendo_SNES/Manual/formated/Mario-s_Early_Years-_Fun_With_Letters_-_1994_-_Software_Toolworks,_Inc.,_The.pdf The ''Fun with Numbers'' manual], however, just calls it "the onscreen pointer." [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 02:50, 12 December 2018 (EST)
::::@Niiue: Everything on that page links back to us, so yeah, it's not valid. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:51, 16 December 2018 (EST)
:::::R.I.P. this article. :( (unless it gets merged) Would we at least leave the picture as it is? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:54, 17 December 2018 (EST)
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 == Is this page even necessary? ==
+{{talk}}
 I'm not sure how something this generic deserves to have its own article. It's just a cursor, nothing more. Shall we delete it? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 19:23, 3 December 2018 (EST)
 :Merge it with the section on the SNES article regarding the mouse, I'd say. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:27, 3 December 2018 (EST)
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 == Delete or expand this page ==
-{{Settled TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|passed|10-3-0|delete}}
+{{TPP}}
 Given the content on this page, it would normally qualify as a [[MarioWiki:Generic subjects|generic subject]], and should therefore be deleted.
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 #{{User|WeirdDave13}} Per all
 #{{User|bwburke94}} Per all.
-#{{User|Scrooge200}} Per all.
-#{{user|Mario jc}} Doesn't seem like there's an official name for it judging by the comments, so sure. Per TheFlameChomp.
-#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} You got a point. I don't see much point to this pointer.
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 #{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Second choice. P.S.: If you vote here, please tell me what you think should be included in this article.
 #{{User|Doomhiker}} Per my comment in the discussion above I personally think that there is enough unique uses of the curser to warrant a full article. As for cursers that should definitely be included in the article if this option passes would include the curser from 3DS/Switch versions of ''[[Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker]]'', as that curser can stun enemies and throw [[turnip]]s, and also the curser from ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]'', with its ability being similar from the curser for Captain Toad (except for the turnip-trowing capabilities). Another potential curser to be included in this article would be the cursers from the ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' series, with its ability to trow [[Star Bit]]s. Potentially the curser from ''[[Super Mario Maker]]'' could also get in due to its ability to change the look of the hand, but that probably would still qualify as a [[MarioWiki:Generic subjects|generic subject]].
-#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per all. Doc von Schmeltwick mentioned that it could be merged with the SNES section though. (possibly if the delete section wins)
+#{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Per all.
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 ::::@Niiue: Everything on that page links back to us, so yeah, it's not valid. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:51, 16 December 2018 (EST)
 :::::R.I.P. this article. :( (unless it gets merged) Would we at least leave the picture as it is? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:54, 17 December 2018 (EST)
-::::::Would Stripe Pointer fit for BJAODN? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 10:36, 18 December 2018 (EST)
-:::::::With the quality of this article, yes, most likely. --'''[[File:Luigistandrpg3.gif|25px]][[User:GrainedCargo192|♠Grained]][[User talk:GrainedCargo192|<span style="color:green">Cargo</span>]][[Special:Contributions/GrainedCargo192|<span style="color:red">192♠</span>]][[File:SPP - Luigi Animation.gif|25px]]''' 16:20, 18 December 2018 (EST)
-::::::::I think it's too boring to be BJAODN, but my criteria of what's funny or not isn't everyone elses's. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:42, 19 December 2018 (EST)
-== Regarding the above ==
-Apparently, this was planned to be expanded. However, i didn't notice the "Do nothing" option, which could also have saved the page. Anyone thinks this should be restored? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:09, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
-:No. Please quite questioning every proposal under the sun. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 05:31, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
-::Ok. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 07:11, May 5, 2019 (EDT)