Editing Talk:Sticker

== Proposal for Things section ==

There are (and will be) articles that link to specific Thing stickers, and I think that instead of a table, it would be better if each Thing had its own subsection, allowing it to be linked to as well as able to provide more information about the Thing, eg. where exactly it is found, what it is used for, effects in battle, and such. [[User:Lapu|Lapu]] ([[User talk:Lapu|talk]]) 16:49, 19 November 2012 (EST)

== NTSC/PAL differences ==

I got the PAL version of this game yesterday, and the description and names of the Thing Stickers are completely different! For example the Faucet is called "Tap" in the PAL version and it has a completely different description. The Fan also has a completely different description (but the same name). Someone should really note this somewhere as many people can get confused! [[User:MarioMaster720]]

== Good ==

It doesn't say how you can be "good".

{{User:Electrical Bowser jr./sig}}

== Proposal for Things Article ==

I think Things should be a completely separate article. This article would detail the locations where you can find each thing, and mention Fling a Thing, in addition to including the table in this article. [[User:ryanwb2|ryanwb2]] 17:00, 2 January 2013 (EST)

Well the things are just stuff that sits there until it is turned into a sticker, so I would think no. We also have a new guideline against walkthroughs. But you can create a talk page proposal about it and see what others think. [[User:Pokémon Trainer Red|PTR]] ([[User talk:Pokémon Trainer Red|talk]]) 17:04, 2 January 2013 (EST)

== Idea for Things section  ==

Should there be a mention of the size of the sticker when a Thing is sticker-ified? The mentioning of the size does give the player an idea of the attack output and how much area is taken in the album. Sizes of stickers range from small, medium, or large.
{{Unsigned|Kayak254}}

I saw on another website that the sizes were 1x1 (small), 1.5x1.5 (medium), and 2x2 (large). I invented 3x3 (mega).[[User:Tf2 fan810|Tf2 fan810]] ([[User talk:Tf2 fan810|talk]]) 16:58, 14 February 2013 (EST)

This ins't Fantendo (A wikiguest) {{unsigned|186.144.120.27}}

== Split ==
Shouldn't the list of the stickers be split to "List of Stickers in Paper Mario: Sticker Star" or something--{{User:Megadardery/sig}} 09:31, 25 January 2013 (EST)

:The page was moved from that title. It was decided that it was better titled [[Sticker (Paper Mario: Sticker Star)]].

:{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 15:27, 5 February 2013 (EST)

You probably should. The same thing happened to the List of Glitches in Super Mario Galaxy 2.[[User:Tf2 fan810|Tf2 fan810]] ([[User talk:Tf2 fan810|talk]]) 17:01, 14 February 2013 (EST)

== Flashy Line Jump in 1-1 ==

You know, you shouldn't say that there's a [[Flashy]] Line Jump in 1-1, because there's a Flashy Infinijump in Sandshifter Ruins if you visit it at least three times. {{unsigned|Magic Koopa Guy}}

== In other languages ==
I created [[List of Badge names in other languages|this page]] some time ago. I want to do the same thing with stickers. Do you agree?--[[User:Qaramana|Qaramana]] ([[User talk:Qaramana|talk]]) 09:13, 27 January 2013 (EST)

== New Stickers ==

I have just created some new stickers. (Some of them are only upgraded stickers). They are the Rain Hammer, the Bounce Hammer, Poison Flower, Spark Flower, Flashy Frog Suit, Spring Suit (it's like the Spring Mushroom), the Splash Hammer, Spear, Zap Hammer, Egg, Bullet Bill, Boom Hammer, Shiny Gold Flower, Mini Hammer, Blue Shell, Wing, Propeller Mushroom, Shiny Bomb, Big Shiny Shell, MegaFlash Shell, MegaFlash Tail, GigaFlash Pow Block, GigaFlash Spike Helmet, and the thing sticker is a Hole Puncher.[[User:Tf2 fan810|Tf2 fan810]] ([[User talk:Tf2 fan810|talk]]) 17:13, 14 February 2013 (EST)

This is not for "''Making up"'' stuff! [[User:Magic Koopa Guy|Magic Koopa Guy]] ([[User talk:Magic Koopa Guy|talk]]) 19:10, 15 February 2013 (EST)

== Final cut sticker? ==

I know there was a sticker that was cut out in the final copy. It was the Present sticker. I know that it was a real sticker because I saw a picture in a magazine that was showing the album and on the bottom row was the Present sticker. The way it was shown means it was a Throwing Type of sticker due to its normal green background.[[User:Tf2 fan810|Tf2 fan810]] ([[User talk:Tf2 fan810|talk]]) 17:23, 14 February 2013 (EST)

That is a [[Mystery Box]], not a "present". >_< [[User:MarioMaster720]]

== More information needed!!! ==

Why don't you have "sticker size" and "action command" in the part of normal stickers?? These are VERY important!! [[User:670839245|670839245]] ([[User talk:670839245|talk]]) 09:50, 26 February 2013 (EST)

== Description? ==

Should we put down the descriptions of the Stickers as they appear in the Sticker Museum? [[User:YoshiAwsumness|YoshiAwsumness]] ([[User talk:YoshiAwsumness|talk]]) 00:00, 25 November 2013 (EST)

:I believe we've already done that.

:-[[User:Toa 95|Toa 95]] ([[User talk:Toa 95|talk]])

::Oops, my bad. [[User:YoshiAwsumness|YoshiAwsumness]] ([[User talk:YoshiAwsumness|talk]]) 19:34, 25 November 2013 (EST)

==Split into List of Stickers in Paper Mario: Sticker Star==
{{SettledTPP}}
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-3|Do not split}}

In most cases on the wiki, things like this are split into separate articles, one for the concept and one that is listed. However this is not the case here as they are merged. The list clogs up the majority of the page and will look better off as part of a separate article.  

'''Proposer''': {{User|NSY}}<br>
'''Deadline''':  December 14, 2015, 23:59 GMT

====Support====
#{{User|NSY}} Per myself

====Oppose====
#{{User|LudwigVon}} Per my comment below.
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} I actually don't disagree with the proposal, because we have articles on two subjects that have the same name that could benefit from a move to "List of stickers in Paper Mario: Sticker Star" and "List of stickers in Super Smash Bros. Brawl". What I do disagree on is creating a stand-alone sticker page, I think this works best as a disambiguation page rather than a stand-alone page as it is now, hence why I'm opposing. If you change to what I'm proposing, then I could change my vote. I'd like to see input from other users first about my idea though.
#{{User|Bazooka Mario}} This split isn't needed. The article serves itself well as informing the reader what the sticker is and does while conveniently listing all stickers.

====Comments====
The problem here is that other pages talk about the concept because it appears in several games such the [[Recipes|recipes]] page that explains in detail all the recipes that appear in all games that this concept appear in, and the list pages ([[List of Tayce T. recipes]], [[List of Zess T. recipes]], [[List of Saffron and Dyllis recipes]]) shows in detail those which appear in the respective games. While the sticker concept appears only in the game Paper Mario: Sticker Star and a list page would be like having a double page to me. If the sticker concept appear in another game, then there, I will not be against.--{{User:LudwigVon/sig}}  13:43, 30 November 2015 (EST)
:You're forgetting that Super Smash Bros. Brawl has an similarly named page that's a list, so this article is actually not an exemption. By the way, on a related note, I don't know why our [[Trophy]] article documents ALL trophies, the trophies in sports games and Brawl are two totally different beasts, hell, even different objects; trophies in sports games are like, rewards while trophies in Smash Bros. are essentially figurines. We need to do something about that. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 12:16, 1 December 2015 (EST)
::I look at the trophies articles with this (Super Smash Bros. and Sport games) and this is two different concept merge which is weird. Something I can do its making a proposal about splitting up the two.--{{User:LudwigVon/sig}}  12:58, 1 December 2015 (EST)
:Baby Luigi: The problem with your analogy is that they're a list of collectibles in two games ''from different series'' and have entirely different function (not to mention, Brawl's list is ''humongous''; we're not realistically merging those two) whereas the recipes all come from ''Paper Mario''. [[Badge]], [[minigame]], [[Item Shop]] (barring the ''Mario Party'' ones, which should be split from the ''Paper Mario'' ones IMO) are fairly homogeneous. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 16:53, 1 December 2015 (EST)
::did i ever insinuated merging the two sticker articles together, like, at all? so why did you even bring it up? Also, being in a different series doesn't disservice my point: treasures from Wario Land, souvenirs from warioware all get their own lists without a "souvenir" or "treasure" page (the treasure page is a disambiguation list anyway). The same could work here in the stickers article, and the list can perfectly explain what a sticker is, like the list of recipes from Paper Mario. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:10, 1 December 2015 (EST)

It's not clear what you're asking. Do you want to rename it? Do you want to create a "List of stickers in Paper Mario: Sticker Star" page and move information from this into that page while retaining history information in this page? You mention precedents, so can you provide specific examples? Your provisions and support are vague, and that's not good when you're proposing a specific course of action. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 16:10, 1 December 2015 (EST)
:He wants to keep a core Sticker page while also creating a page dedicated to listing them {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 16:11, 1 December 2015 (EST)
::Let him speak. And you haven't answered all my questions anyway, since he doesn't list a specific precedent we can fall back on because I have fair few examples I have myself that goes contrary to the format he's proposing ([[List of bonuses in Super Smash Bros. Melee]] to "Bonus (Super Smash Bros. Melee)"; [[List of bosses]] to "Boss"; "List of equipment in Smash 4" to [[Equipment]];). Usually, when a standalone article based on these lists is created, it's because those lists encompass a lot of games, similar series or not and may be huge, like in [[minigame]] and recipes, and creating one article with all '''complete''' lists would be a bad idea. But it shouldn't mean we should create Sticker (Paper Mario: Sticker Star) and "List of Sticker in Paper Mario: Sticker Star" when it's more convenient for readers to find both a complete list and an explanation of the sticker. Those lists still have to explain what a "Sticker" is anyway, so it strikes me as redundant. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 16:53, 1 December 2015 (EST)
:::You're basing your thoughts that if we create a "list of page", we have to keep the information for it ''completely separate'' from the list itself, when the list of recipes article, as an example, explains a recipe and what it is completely fine. The same can be applied for the list of stickers articles. by the way, I don't even know why you're objecting at all, look at my freaking oppose vote. i disagree with creating a standalone sticker page, because it DOESN'T encompass several games the same way recipes do {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:10, 1 December 2015 (EST)

Finally, are we just splitting Stickers, or are we going to to take Things and Scraps into account as well? {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 19:09, 1 December 2015 (EST)

== Things ==

Hi, since things are back in ''Color Splash'', think we can make Things into a separate article again? [[User:Weedle McHairybug|Weedle McHairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle McHairybug|talk]]) 04:37, 9 October 2016 (EDT)
:Yeah I suppose that could work, they actually should be split. {{User:The RPG Gamer/sig}} 04:40, 9 October 2016 (EDT)

== Things, things, and more things. ==
{{talk}}
Not sure where I should put this, so I'm doing it here. Whether in the article, or creating a separate page for them, can we get a list of how to get each Thing? [[User:Magolor04726|Till our roads next cross, Magolor04726, C-R-O-W-N-E-D Ruler Supreme]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 13:10, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
:That info might be better suited in each individual location article for the game. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 13:19, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
::Actually, why ''haven't'' Things been given their own articles yet? Each one has its own spot in the game's museum, which is enough to show that they're separate things. Different locations, animations, prices, uses, Action Commands, and some of them even return in ''Color Splash''. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 13:58, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
:::At that point we might as well split all the Stickers and Battle Cards too, obviously with the ones in both games sharing an article. After all, they're just as important as Badges and arguably more so than Key Items. I was originally thinking that we should at least have a Thing page to cover them all, but then realized they're still technically Stickers/Battle Cards, which would make not having them on those pages be awkward but also having them there and on a Thing page be a potential violation of once and only once. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 14:06, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
::::We have articles like [[List of badges in Paper Mario]], and all those badges have their own articles. I think the same could work with these Stickers/Battle Cards and Things. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 14:49, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
:::::That's a good point, I noticed that after I made the comment. I think we definitely could do it, but I'd like to see some more discussion or consensus first before pushing ahead with a proposal. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 15:02, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
::::::I agree, especially since this could also open up the incentive to split out every clothing item from the ''Mario & Luigi'' series. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 15:47, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
:::::::There's been a similar discussion on [[Talk:Battle Card (Paper Mario: Color Splash)#Split]]. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 18:06, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
:::::::: (Me thinking: What have I done?) So, what's the decision? Make an article for each Thing, or list where to find them in locations, or make every Stocker and Thing it's own article? [[User:Magolor04726|Till our roads next cross, Magolor04726, C-R-O-W-N-E-D Ruler Supreme]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 19:45, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
:::::::::Consensus so far seems to be give an article to every Thing, and each type of Sticker and Battle Card (i.e. Hopslipper, Line Jump, Slaphammer etc.) gets its own article, and obviously anything in Color Splash that returned from Sticker Star would just be on the original's article. This is a pretty big change though, so it should probably be a proposal at some point. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 20:31, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
::::::::::I might be able to help with the Sticker Star stuff, but not Color Splash. I don't own that. [[User:Magolor04726|Till our roads next cross, Magolor04726, C-R-O-W-N-E-D Ruler Supreme]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 20:51, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
I'll make as many sticker pages as I can, if I get an OK from someone... [[User:Magolor04726|Till our roads next cross, Magolor04726, C-R-O-W-N-E-D Ruler Supreme]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 21:26, May 27, 2020 (EDT)
:Sure, go ahead. I'd like to get our SS/CS coverage improved in time for ''The Origami King''. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 21:30, May 27, 2020 (EDT)
::OK, I may need a little help with a template and such... I'm not very good at editing. Should I model it after a stereotypical item page?[[User:Magolor04726|Till our roads next cross, Magolor04726, C-R-O-W-N-E-D Ruler Supreme]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 21:31, May 27, 2020 (EDT)

Like Waluigi Time said, a big change like this should require a proposal. Please consider that first before enacting the suggested changes. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 01:04, May 28, 2020 (EDT)
:If you all don't mind, may I start the proposal? {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 01:17, May 28, 2020 (EDT)
::Sure, go right ahead. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 02:05, May 28, 2020 (EDT)
:::Sounds good to me. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:04, May 28, 2020 (EDT)
Was a proposal started? Because I looked at the proposals page and didn't see anything. [[User:Magolor04726|-Mags]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 11:06, May 29, 2020 (EDT)
Guys, I can't find the proposal. Was one even started? [[User:Magolor04726|-Mags]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 09:40, June 2, 2020 (EDT)
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 ==Split into List of Stickers in Paper Mario: Sticker Star==
-{{settled TPP}}
+{{SettledTPP}}
-{{proposal outcome|failed|1-3|Do not split}}
+{{ProposalOutcome|failed|1-3|Do not split}}
 In most cases on the wiki, things like this are split into separate articles, one for the concept and one that is listed. However this is not the case here as they are merged. The list clogs up the majority of the page and will look better off as part of a separate article.
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 == Things, things, and more things. ==
+{{talk}}
 Not sure where I should put this, so I'm doing it here. Whether in the article, or creating a separate page for them, can we get a list of how to get each Thing? [[User:Magolor04726|Till our roads next cross, Magolor04726, C-R-O-W-N-E-D Ruler Supreme]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 13:10, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
 :That info might be better suited in each individual location article for the game. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 13:19, May 17, 2020 (EDT)
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 :::Sounds good to me. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:04, May 28, 2020 (EDT)
 Was a proposal started? Because I looked at the proposals page and didn't see anything. [[User:Magolor04726|-Mags]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 11:06, May 29, 2020 (EDT)
 Guys, I can't find the proposal. Was one even started? [[User:Magolor04726|-Mags]] ([[User talk:Magolor04726|talk]]) 09:40, June 2, 2020 (EDT)
-:I don’t think it has been started. [[User:Duckfan77|Duckfan77]] ([[User talk:Duckfan77|talk]]) 13:04, June 9, 2020 (EDT)
-::I've finally started the proposal. I've been a bit busy lately, sorry for the wait. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 22:33, June 27, 2020 (EDT)
-== About that identifier ==
-I've always found it weird that this page has an identifier. The other sticker page is for ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'', and since we prioritize ''Mario'' coverage over ''Super Smash Bros.'', shouldn't this be the primary sticker page? {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 17:12, July 28, 2020 (EDT)
-:Sounds about right. Something else that's weird, anytime I try to access this specific page from my email or a couple other links, it takes me to a page that's labeled as ''Sticker (Paper Mario: Sticker Star'' while the actual page is ''Sticker (Paper Mario: Sticker Star)''. This also happens with the talk page. I don't know if that's just me, but I'd like an explanation. {{unsigned|Magolor04726}}
-::That's just something that occasionally happens with links ending with parentheses, not something specific to this page. Anyway, I agree that this should be moved. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 18:38, July 28, 2020 (EDT)
-:::Definitely should be moved, I planned to do this eventually but haven't had time because, [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Sticker_(Paper_Mario:_Sticker_Star)&hidelinks=1 well]. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 01:16, July 29, 2020 (EDT)
-::::Of course, we can always ask {{User|porplemontage}} to use text replacement. {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 20:42, September 2, 2020 (EDT)
-== "Five Years Later" Proposal ==
-{{settled TPP}}
-{{proposal outcome|cancelled}}
-I will start out by saying, yes, there has been a proposal earlier on, and as you can see, the outcome has passed. However, now that the modern games have chosen to adopt this format, this may have just become a relevant topic again.
-Since [[Paper Mario: Color Splash|two]] [[Paper Mario: The Origami King|games]] have passed since the release of ''Sticker Star'', this may have become more debatable. Although there are certain stickers appearing only in this game, [[Megaflash|including one-of-a-kind stickers]], there are certain stickers/Battle Cards/weapons which have appeared in all three recent games, as well as [[Thing]]s which made it two games over.
-Please note that I have no opinion on the matter, and as such do not support or oppose the results. I am simply interested in getting the opinions of the editors now that five years and two games have passed.
-However, I do feel that making a page for each of these stickers would be like making a page for every badge in ''[[Paper Mario]]'' ([[List of badges in Paper Mario|which has happened]]), and to some extent, the articles of clothing in the ''Mario & Luigi'' games. I believe so long as we have a location, price, use, durability rating for each and every sticker (most of which are supplied at the [[Sticker Museum]]), there is potential for splitting.
-('''NOTE:''' As this is my first official proposal, although the setup seems correct, there is probably something I forgot to do. If possible, please let me know. I simply ask you respect the topic and the opinions of the others.)
-'''Proposer''': {{User|The Mansion}}<br>
-'''Deadline''':  September 16, 2020, 13:13 GMT
-=== Split ===
-=== Don't Split ===
-=== Comments ===
-I've already proposed this, and it passed. [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_55#Split_the_Paper_Mario:_Sticker_Star_and_Paper_Mario:_Color_Splash_attacks]]. If you'd like to help me enact it, please feel free to. {{User:Scrooge200/sig}} 14:33, September 2, 2020 (EDT)
-:I will do so, I see a lot of people feel the same way, which is good. {{User:The Mansion/sig}} 14:39, September 2, 2020 (EDT)
-I'm confused: if there was already a passed proposal on this, then why is it being proposed again? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 14:50, September 2, 2020 (EDT)
-:Because they didn't see that because it wasn't on this page, obviously. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:32, September 2, 2020 (EDT)