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==Merge to [[Rocket Start]]== | ==Merge to [[Rocket Start]]== | ||
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Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games have a Start Dash but, should this be merged to the rocket start article? In this TPP, you be the judge. Should we merge, or not? | Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games have a Start Dash but, should this be merged to the rocket start article? In this TPP, you be the judge. Should we merge, or not? | ||
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==Rocket Start Merge== | ==Rocket Start Merge== | ||
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Should we merge it with the rocket start, or not? | Should we merge it with the rocket start, or not? | ||
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== Merge with Rocket Start, take 3 == | == Merge with Rocket Start, take 3 == | ||
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Both this page and the [[Rocket Start]] page describe the same [[MarioWiki:Generic subjects|generic]] act of getting a head start in a race by timing a certain action well during the countdown. No, it being present in multiple unrelated games isn't a reason to keep them split in itself. Aesthetic distinctions the likes of "karts emitting fire through their exhaust during a Rocket Start" aren't a good reason either. | Both this page and the [[Rocket Start]] page describe the same [[MarioWiki:Generic subjects|generic]] act of getting a head start in a race by timing a certain action well during the countdown. No, it being present in multiple unrelated games isn't a reason to keep them split in itself. Aesthetic distinctions the likes of "karts emitting fire through their exhaust during a Rocket Start" aren't a good reason either. | ||
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#{{User|Tails777}} They're both means of getting a head start. Whether it be in a kart, a bobsled or on foot really doesn't change that. | #{{User|Tails777}} They're both means of getting a head start. Whether it be in a kart, a bobsled or on foot really doesn't change that. | ||
#{{User|Pseudo}} Per all. | #{{User|Pseudo}} Per all. | ||
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#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} A Rocket Start exclusively refers to a starting boost achieved by charging a kart or vehicle, while a Start Dash exclusively refers to a starting boost in a footrace, achieved by the user charging their own energy instead. | |||
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@ThePowerPlayer, "A Rocket Start exclusively refers to a starting boost [...] while a Start Dash exclusively refers to a starting boost" So they're both essentially the same thing. I don't see how the nature of the playable element is even relevant here: you can [[jump]] while controlling a character and you can jump along [[Mine Cart Carnage|with a mine cart]]--does this warrant a separate page for the act of jumping using an entire vehicle? As for the manner in which said action is performed, there is precedent of a certain move being triggered differently between games, but sharing the same page nonetheless: [[Ground Pound]]s are typically triggered with a controller's shoulder button while your character is in mid-air, but in TTYD you have to press the jump button again instead. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 21:01, August 3, 2023 (EDT) | @ThePowerPlayer, "A Rocket Start exclusively refers to a starting boost [...] while a Start Dash exclusively refers to a starting boost" So they're both essentially the same thing. I don't see how the nature of the playable element is even relevant here: you can [[jump]] while controlling a character and you can jump along [[Mine Cart Carnage|with a mine cart]]--does this warrant a separate page for the act of jumping using an entire vehicle? As for the manner in which said action is performed, there is precedent of a certain move being triggered differently between games, but sharing the same page nonetheless: [[Ground Pound]]s are typically triggered with a controller's shoulder button while your character is in mid-air, but in TTYD you have to press the jump button again instead. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 21:01, August 3, 2023 (EDT) | ||
Regardless of whether this proposal succeeds of fails, doesn't anyone find it weird that the 2007 ''Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games'' is the ''only one'' of its series listed? Like, I could've sworn that nearly every race event across ''the entire series'' allows the player to make a head start akin to the Rocket Start in Mario Kart (this includes all track events, but ''also'' all Speed Skating events from the ''Olympic Winter Games'' entries | Regardless of whether this proposal succeeds of fails, doesn't anyone find it weird that the 2007 ''Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games'' is the ''only one'' of its series listed? Like, I could've sworn that nearly every race event across ''the entire series'' allows the player to make a head start akin to the Rocket Start in Mario Kart (this includes all track events, but ''also'' all Speed Skating events from the ''Olympic Winter Games'' entries. I feel like that section could be expanded to encompass the entire Olympic Games series and include their respective race events that allow for a head start. {{User:Arend/sig}} 12:30, August 6, 2023 (EDT) | ||
