Editing Talk:Star Coin

==Super Mario 3D==
{{User|Platitudinous}} Someone should add information about the Star Coins in Super Mario 3D.

== Super Mario 3D Land ==

Should I make a other page with Star Medal? -[[User:Red-CyanToad|Red-CyanToad]]

There are more than 306 star medals in 3D land. <s>I have 315, and I think that's the max,</s> but I'm not sure, so I'll leave it. '''[[User:25timmy16|<font color="aqua">25</font>]][[User talk:25timmy16|<font color="darkblue">T</font>]][[Special:Contributions/25timmy16|<font color="aqua">16</font>]][[File:DDRmario.jpg|20px]]<sup><font color="red">It’s a me!</font>'''</sup> 16:06, 23 November 2011 (EST)

Actually, Now I have 318, and I'm sure there are more. Possibly 320. '''[[User:25timmy16|<font color="aqua">25</font>]][[User talk:25timmy16|<font color="darkblue">T</font>]][[Special:Contributions/25timmy16|<font color="aqua">16</font>]][[File:DDRmario.jpg|20px]]<sup><font color="red">It’s a me!</font>'''</sup> 23:45, 25 November 2011 (EST)

==Split Star Coin Sign and Star Coin==
{{SettledTPP}}

<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">SPLIT 5-0</span>

Out of all the mergers during the "Crusade against Stubs" this one makes the least amount of since to me. For starters the only argument in favor of merging these articles was because the Star Coin Sign article was a stub fun fact it wasn't a stub it was a short article that was labeled a stub when it was one sentence long back in 2007 [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Star_Coin_Sign&diff=next&oldid=113377] and then when it was expanded to contain all the info on the subject nobody bothered to remove the stub template. So while yes the Star Coin Sign article was short it still wasn't a stub because there was no info that could be added. Second these two things while related in the sense that Star Coin Signs go away once you pay 5 star coins, they are and never will be the same thing. Because of these points I believe we should split these articles because they aren't the same thing and the Star Coin Sign article was not a stub when it was merged 

'''Proposer''': {{User|Raven Effect}}<br>
'''Deadline''': April 26, 2012, 23:59 GMT

===Split===
#{{User|Raven Effect}} Per my arguments
#{{User|RandomYoshi}} &ndash; Per Raven Effect. If they aren't the same thing, why merge them?
#{{User|New Super Yoshi}} Per shoey.
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per proposal.
#{{User|LeftyGreenMario}} Hm, I remembered supporting the merging of this section previously because the article was insanely short and related to the Star Coin a lot. However, I think the Star Coin Sign warrants its own article simply because it's an obstacle, not a collectible.

===Keep Merged===

===Comments===
What makes Star Coin Sign more deserving of its own article? I'm just wondering. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 19:20, 15 April 2012 (EDT)
:It's an officially named thing that plays the role of an obstacle in the Mario series now for my question why isn't it deserving of an article  {{User|Raven Effect}}

== more citing ==

this article states it is possible to collect 999 star medals. There is no refrence to this I would need proof to believe such a claim whoever added this fact needs to prove it. {{unsigned|PIE XD}}

==One game is missing!==

The [[Elevation Station]] minigame in ''[[Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move]]'' has normal coins but it also has Star coins (which are worth more points). Shouldn't this be added to this page?
{{User|Agentdave7}}

== Split Star Coin and Star Medal ==
{{SettledTPP}}
<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">SPLIT 6-0</span><br>

They're different items, with different appearance, names and function (the medals unlock levels and the coins unlock Star Coin Signs, Hint Movies, et cetera). I mean, [[1-Up Mushroom]] and [[1-Up Heart]] have the very same purpose and have separate pages. so I think we should split this.

'''Proposer:''' {{User|Mr. Ice Bro.}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' December 28, 2013, 23:59 GMT

===Split them===
#{{User|Mr. Ice Bro.}} &ndash; Per my proposal.
#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Although they have the same purpose, they have different names and appearances and are obviously meant to be different objects.
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Per proposal.
#{{User|LeftyGreenMario}} Yeah, sure why not? Even the name is different. Somebody searching the wiki would expect a standalone article on Star Medal. Super Mario 3D Land's level progression is literally linear (each world is one continuous line) while New Super Mario Bros. has few, but still numerable, branching paths that lead to Toad Houses, other levels, and others. As a result, Star Mdeals and Star Coins will have different functions.
#{{user|YoshiKong}} &ndash; Sounds good to me, per proposal.
#{{User|KP}} Per all.

===Leave it as it is===

===Comments===
@LeftyGreenMario: Your reason doesn't make sense.  This doesn't prove that Star Coins and Star Medals are different.  It's only explaining the maps.  {{User:ParaLemmy1234/sig}}
:No, my point is that since map layout is different in both games, Star Coins and Star Medals get different functions. Star Coins and Star Medals' functions are dependent on map layout somewhat.<br>{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 15:18, 17 December 2013 (EST)
==[[Star Medal]] article already exists==
I know this is settled, but this needs to be said there already is a [[Star Medal]] page on the wiki, that would need to be moved to {{fake link|Star Medal (Super Paper Mario)}}, whilst the info here would be split into {{fake link|Star Medal (Super Mario 3D Land)}} {{User|Yoshi876}}
:Actually, I'd rather retain the SM3DL Star Medal article as plain '''Star Medal''', with Super Paper Mario's Star Medal moved to {{fake link|Star Medal (Super Paper Mario)}} as you suggested. Because the Super Paper Mario's Star Medal isn't very well known as the SM3DL Star Medal is.--{{User:Megadardery/sig}} 15:52, 2 January 2014 (EST)
::The only reason I say Star Medal (3D Land) is because a disambiguation page will be needed and it'd be easier to have that as the Star Medal page. {{User|Yoshi876}}

== False Statement? ==

(''New Super Mario Bros.'')"If the player defeats the final boss after collecting the Star Coins in every world, none of the pictures shown in the end credits will say "NEW"." This is not completely true. I played the game leaving only one Cannon left before defeating the final boss. I did not have all Star Coins, either. After collecting all Star Coins and playing the cannon level I missed, I found the word "NEW" on it. I know that in the game, the word NEW only shows up once and that is when it is shown in the credits for the first time, and after that never appears again ever (or at least I haven't seen it appear again, but that's another subject). What I am wondering is if you play through the game and never defeat the final boss until you have everything else completed (or just all Star Coins, but not all levels including Cannons), will the word "NEW" show up? If not, then the statement is completely false. If it does, it may need to be reworded. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 15:57, 13 December 2017 (EST)
:Darn, I just did a "don't beat until 100%" run a while back, and I didn't even look for that. Really hard with that penultimate level, considering it was also a "no Toad House" run....Mini Mushrooms and all that... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:27, 13 December 2017 (EST)
::Not sure how accurate this is, but someone on Youtube did beat the game 100% and there is no "NEW"s at the end. But what will happen if the Cannons weren't completed. How would this affect the "NEW"s. Will "NEW" appear after doing the Cannons then completing the final boss the first time with everything else. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 16:41, 13 December 2017 (EST)
:::It's not accurate. Doesn't show "NEW" even without 100% it (same channel) unlike the game. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 17:07, 13 December 2017 (EST)
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 ==Split Star Coin Sign and Star Coin==
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 Out of all the mergers during the "Crusade against Stubs" this one makes the least amount of since to me. For starters the only argument in favor of merging these articles was because the Star Coin Sign article was a stub fun fact it wasn't a stub it was a short article that was labeled a stub when it was one sentence long back in 2007 [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Star_Coin_Sign&diff=next&oldid=113377] and then when it was expanded to contain all the info on the subject nobody bothered to remove the stub template. So while yes the Star Coin Sign article was short it still wasn't a stub because there was no info that could be added. Second these two things while related in the sense that Star Coin Signs go away once you pay 5 star coins, they are and never will be the same thing. Because of these points I believe we should split these articles because they aren't the same thing and the Star Coin Sign article was not a stub when it was merged
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 == Split Star Coin and Star Medal ==
-{{Settled TPP}}
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+<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">SPLIT 6-0</span><br>
 They're different items, with different appearance, names and function (the medals unlock levels and the coins unlock Star Coin Signs, Hint Movies, et cetera). I mean, [[1-Up Mushroom]] and [[1-Up Heart]] have the very same purpose and have separate pages. so I think we should split this.
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 @LeftyGreenMario: Your reason doesn't make sense.  This doesn't prove that Star Coins and Star Medals are different.  It's only explaining the maps.  {{User:ParaLemmy1234/sig}}
 :No, my point is that since map layout is different in both games, Star Coins and Star Medals get different functions. Star Coins and Star Medals' functions are dependent on map layout somewhat.<br>{{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 15:18, 17 December 2013 (EST)
 ==[[Star Medal]] article already exists==
 I know this is settled, but this needs to be said there already is a [[Star Medal]] page on the wiki, that would need to be moved to {{fake link|Star Medal (Super Paper Mario)}}, whilst the info here would be split into {{fake link|Star Medal (Super Mario 3D Land)}} {{User|Yoshi876}}
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 ::Not sure how accurate this is, but someone on Youtube did beat the game 100% and there is no "NEW"s at the end. But what will happen if the Cannons weren't completed. How would this affect the "NEW"s. Will "NEW" appear after doing the Cannons then completing the final boss the first time with everything else. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 16:41, 13 December 2017 (EST)
 :::It's not accurate. Doesn't show "NEW" even without 100% it (same channel) unlike the game. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 17:07, 13 December 2017 (EST)
-== Should green stars count? ==
-Should green stars from [[Super Mario 3D World]] count as [[Star Coins]]? There collectables found in hard places similar to "Star Coins". [[User:Elijah Guy|Elijah Guy]] ([[User talk:Elijah Guy|talk]]) 11:24, April 10, 2020 (EDT)
-:No more than [[Dragon Coin]]s or [[Smiley Flower]]s. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 11:28, April 10, 2020 (EDT)
-Ah ok but, once you think about it ...  [[User:Elijah Guy|Elijah Guy]] ([[User talk:Elijah Guy|talk]]) 11:34, April 10, 2020 (EDT)
-:My point is "a similar role" does not mean "the same item." The [[Metal Cap]] and [[Metal Mushroom]] are not the same, for example. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 11:37, April 10, 2020 (EDT)
-Ok now I get it! Its kinda nice that [[Nintendo]] gave [[Green Stars]] a chance. [[User:Elijah Guy|Elijah Guy]] ([[User talk:Elijah Guy|talk]]) 11:41, April 10, 2020 (EDT)
-The article already mentioned them as similarly-functioning items, and there's no necessary reason they ''can't'' be used again. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 13:59, April 10, 2020 (EDT)