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==Change name from Snufit Police to Snifit Police== | ==Change name from Snufit Police to Snifit Police== | ||
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I believe that we should rename this page Snifit Police because while most of the copies of Mario Party 2 for the N64 called them Snufit Police some called them Snifit Police and more importantly the virtual console version of Mario Party 2 calls them Snifit Police therefore I believe that, that is the official name and that, that should be the name of the page. | I believe that we should rename this page Snifit Police because while most of the copies of Mario Party 2 for the N64 called them Snufit Police some called them Snifit Police and more importantly the virtual console version of Mario Party 2 calls them Snifit Police therefore I believe that, that is the official name and that, that should be the name of the page. | ||
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==Change name from Snufit Police to Snifit Police== | ==Change name from Snufit Police to Snifit Police== | ||
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Alright let's try this again. In Mario Party 2 these characters apparently have two English names with some copies of Mario Party 2 calling them Snufit Police and some calling them Snifit Police (although I've never actually seen a copy that calls them Snufit Police). But the virtual console version of Mario Party 2 calls them Snifit Police therefore in accordance with this proposal [[http://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Bowser%27s_Castle_(world)#Revert_the_SMB3_worlds_to_their_.22Land.22_names|1]] they should be called Snifit Police because that is not only the most recent name used but the name for the Virtual Console version. | Alright let's try this again. In Mario Party 2 these characters apparently have two English names with some copies of Mario Party 2 calling them Snufit Police and some calling them Snifit Police (although I've never actually seen a copy that calls them Snufit Police). But the virtual console version of Mario Party 2 calls them Snifit Police therefore in accordance with this proposal [[http://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Bowser%27s_Castle_(world)#Revert_the_SMB3_worlds_to_their_.22Land.22_names|1]] they should be called Snifit Police because that is not only the most recent name used but the name for the Virtual Console version. | ||
'''Proposer:''' {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}} <br> | '''Proposer:''' {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}} <br> | ||
''' | '''Deadline:''' November 28 2014, 23:59 GMT | ||
===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
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==Change name from Snufit Police to Snifit Police== | ==Change name from Snufit Police to Snifit Police== | ||
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Looking at the above, it seems this proposal lost the first time, gained enough support the second time around, but then it was dropped due to the Snufit article name and I guess the discussion just sort of petered out. Snifit Police is used in most versions of ''Mario Party 2'' (I should add that, looking through the page history, it was quietly changed as a minor edit in 2006 because "[http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Snufit_Police&diff=56104&oldid=56103 they are snufits]"), so it makes sense that it would be considered the name of the group here. Whether or not Snufits are actually Snifits, I feel, is another topic altogether (just look at Galoomba's para-/winged sub-species using their old yet official "Goomba" names for an example) - and we can figure that out later. | Looking at the above, it seems this proposal lost the first time, gained enough support the second time around, but then it was dropped due to the Snufit article name and I guess the discussion just sort of petered out. Snifit Police is used in most versions of ''Mario Party 2'' (I should add that, looking through the page history, it was quietly changed as a minor edit in 2006 because "[http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Snufit_Police&diff=56104&oldid=56103 they are snufits]"), so it makes sense that it would be considered the name of the group here. Whether or not Snufits are actually Snifits, I feel, is another topic altogether (just look at Galoomba's para-/winged sub-species using their old yet official "Goomba" names for an example) - and we can figure that out later. | ||
'''Proposer''': {{User|LinkTheLefty}}<br> | '''Proposer''': {{User|LinkTheLefty}}<br> | ||
''' | '''Deadline''': <s>April 9, 2015, 23:59 GMT.</s> '''Extended''': April 16, 2015, 23:59 GMT. | ||
===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} Per above. | |||
#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per proposal. | #{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per proposal. | ||
#{{User|Binarystep}} I'm pretty sure Snufits are just Super Mario 64's Snifits, like what happened with Fly Guys in the same game. | #{{User|Binarystep}} I'm pretty sure Snufits are just Super Mario 64's Snifits, like what happened with Fly Guys in the same game. | ||
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#{{User|Count Wiki}} Per proposal | #{{User|Count Wiki}} Per proposal | ||
#{{User|Pseudo-dino}} Per all. | #{{User|Pseudo-dino}} Per all. | ||
#{{User|SmokedChili}} Okay guys, I've done Japanese Mario searching once again, and here's my findings related to this proposal. First, Snufits. It's assumed that they are subspecies of Snifits. Those who think so, you seem to be correct. The only somewhat reliable source I found is from [http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%A0%E3%83%BC%E3%83%81%E3%83%A7#.E6.B4.BE.E7.94.9F.E5.9E.8B Japanese Wikipedia] where Snufits have a different Japanese name, カメーンムーチョ (a mix of Phanto and Snifit's Japanese names) in ''SM64'' and then ゆうれいムーチョ (Ghost Snifit) in ''SM64DS''. So yes, Snufits seem to be indeed different from Snifits. As for Japanese Space Land board in ''MP2'', I found [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnmJ8jn855Y&index=9&list=PLCF7025D750EDD050 this video] with Snufit Police in action. Here, they call themselves ムーチョじゅんけ (Snifit... Patrol, I think). Which means that in this context, it's "Snufit Police" that's the mistranslation here. Another point I have is that these "Snufits" are driving cars, and they cover their lower bodies, so how do we know for certain that they are in fact Snufits, aside from basing it on their masks? Finally, even if the species name clashes with the organization name, | #{{User|SmokedChili}} Okay guys, I've done Japanese Mario searching once again, and here's my findings related to this proposal. First, Snufits. It's assumed that they are subspecies of Snifits. Those who think so, you seem to be correct. The only somewhat reliable source I found is from [http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%A0%E3%83%BC%E3%83%81%E3%83%A7#.E6.B4.BE.E7.94.9F.E5.9E.8B Japanese Wikipedia] where Snufits have a different Japanese name, カメーンムーチョ (a mix of Phanto and Snifit's Japanese names) in ''SM64'' and then ゆうれいムーチョ (Ghost Snifit) in ''SM64DS''. So yes, Snufits seem to be indeed different from Snifits. As for Japanese Space Land board in ''MP2'', I found [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnmJ8jn855Y&index=9&list=PLCF7025D750EDD050 this video] with Snufit Police in action. Here, they call themselves ムーチョじゅんけ (Snifit... Patrol, I think). Which means that in this context, it's "Snufit Police" that's the mistranslation here. Another point I have is that these "Snufits" are driving cars, and they cover their lower bodies, so how do we know for certain that they are in fact Snufits, aside from basing it on their masks? Finally, even if the species name clashes with the organization name, Snufits are still Snifits species, so technically "Snifit Police" is still correct. '''Long story short: "Snifit Police" is the correct translation, "Snufit Police" a mistranslation. Calling them "Snufits" here because of their similar appearance to ''SM64'' enemies seems to be based on the masks and ignores their lower bodies which we conveniently can't see. And Snufits = Snifit species so "Snifit Police" is in a sense correct.''' So ultimately, per all. | ||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
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#{{User|Viper26}} Per Mario. | #{{User|Viper26}} Per Mario. | ||
#{{User|NSY}} Clearly Snufits, no doubt about it. | #{{User|NSY}} Clearly Snufits, no doubt about it. | ||
#{{User| | #{{User|Vommack}} Per Mario. | ||
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===Neutral (uncounted)=== | |||
#{{User|Bwburke94}} This falls under the "first English name" policy. Ordinarily that would place the article at Snufit Police per the North American version of ''Mario Party 2'', but I am not officially voting for Oppose due to the possibility that Snufit Police was a translation error. | |||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
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@Burningdragon25: You need to add reasoning behind your vote.--[[User:Vommack|Vommack]] ([[User talk:Vommack|talk]]) 14:55, 18 April 2015 (EDT) | @Burningdragon25: You need to add reasoning behind your vote.--[[User:Vommack|Vommack]] ([[User talk:Vommack|talk]]) 14:55, 18 April 2015 (EDT) | ||