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==Move Sledge Bro. to Sumo Bro. (Super Mario Bros. 3)== | ==Move Sledge Bro. to Sumo Bro. (Super Mario Bros. 3)== | ||
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'''Proposer:''' {{User|Raven Effect}} <br> | '''Proposer:''' {{User|Raven Effect}} <br> | ||
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For the last 3 guides these have been called Sumo Bros. by Prima and regardless of your preference towards Prima they are still the official source for game guides of Nintendo games. Now the question is should we consider this a new name and to that I say yes (otherwise I wouldn't make this proposal) Think about it when Prima makes a naming mistake they usually don't make the same one multiple times in a row. But with these they have called them Sumo Bros. consistently in the last 3 game guides. I believe that this is enough evidence to say that they have been renamed Sumo Bro. because unlike other instances where a creature is renamed such as Fishbone being called Wet Bones this one is consistent. | For the last 3 guides these have been called Sumo Bros. by Prima and regardless of your preference towards Prima they are still the official source for game guides of Nintendo games. Now the question is should we consider this a new name and to that I say yes (otherwise I wouldn't make this proposal) Think about it when Prima makes a naming mistake they usually don't make the same one multiple times in a row. But with these they have called them Sumo Bros. consistently in the last 3 game guides. I believe that this is enough evidence to say that they have been renamed Sumo Bro. because unlike other instances where a creature is renamed such as Fishbone being called Wet Bones this one is consistent. | ||
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#{{User|Master R.O.B}} Per proposal. | #{{User|Master R.O.B}} Per proposal. | ||
#{{User|ToastUltimatum}} This article states that NSMB2 itself calls them Sumo Bros. So no question, really. | #{{User|ToastUltimatum}} This article states that NSMB2 itself calls them Sumo Bros. So no question, really. | ||
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#{{User|xXSuperXXNintendoXx}}As such, Prima is known for their mistakes and they do make mistakes multiple times in a row, also Sumo Bros don't wield hammers. and their attacks, other than the stomp that stuns Mario are completely different. The Sledge Bro in the New Super Mario Bros. games was obviously based off of its appearance within SMB3. They are just to different to move, despite Prima having an official Nintendo Seal, its not perfect. | #{{User|xXSuperXXNintendoXx}}As such, Prima is known for their mistakes and they do make mistakes multiple times in a row, also Sumo Bros don't wield hammers. and their attacks, other than the stomp that stuns Mario are completely different. The Sledge Bro in the New Super Mario Bros. games was obviously based off of its appearance within SMB3. They are just to different to move, despite Prima having an official Nintendo Seal, its not perfect. | ||
#{{User| | #{{User|Koopa K}} It says right at the top of the page "sometimes '''incorrectly''' referred to as Sumo Bros. They are completely different from Sumo Bros.! Per mine and [[User:xXSuperXXNintendoXx|xXSuperXXNintendoXx]]'s comments below. | ||
#{{User| | #{{User|Technickal}} If anything, merge it with Sumo Bro. | ||
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'''@Koopa K''' And I say that's wrong because of the fact that 3 straight manuals have called them Sumo Bros. while only one manual (and possibly some books) call them Sledge Bros. So what I'm trying to say is that there are two types of Sumo Bros. much like how there are two types of Boomerang Brso. {{User|Raven Effect}} | '''@Koopa K''' And I say that's wrong because of the fact that 3 straight manuals have called them Sumo Bros. while only one manual (and possibly some books) call them Sledge Bros. So what I'm trying to say is that there are two types of Sumo Bros. much like how there are two types of Boomerang Brso. {{User|Raven Effect}} | ||
:I say it's right. Still every single other website refers to them as Sledge Bros. Only Prima refers to them as Sumo Bros. Also, if we create the article we would have to make the regular [[Sumo Bros.]] article {{ | :I say it's right. Still every single other website refers to them as Sledge Bros. Only Prima refers to them as Sumo Bros. Also, if we create the article we would have to make the regular [[Sumo Bros.]] article {{fakelink|Sumo Bros. (Super Mario World)}} These are completely different from Sumo Bros. Oh, and what does the game refer to them as? Sledge Bros. I would guess, because the Superstar Saga Boomerang Bros. where officially referred to as Boomerang Bros. '''IN THE GAME!''' So yea, you think Sumo Bros. I think Sledge Bros. neither of us are particularly right until the proposal ends. {{User|Koopa K}} | ||
::Wait which official website calls them Sledge Bros. 0_0 and also Sledge Bros. are never called Sledge Bros. in the game they are called Sledge Brothers in the manual of SMB3 the only time a game has ever called them that. While there have been 3 straight games that have officially called them Sumo Bro. and once again whether you like Prima or not they are the official makers of Nintendo game guides what they say is canon unless it conflicts with other more reliable sources like a Nintendo Power guide or a game. Also I would like to point out that at the edit was made that said a guide had called them Sumo Bros. Prima was considered an unofficial source (or at least every one before 2007 was) and New Super Mario Bros. was made in 2006 which means that the guide that calls them Sumo Bro. would most likely be a Nintendo Power guide. {{User|Raven Effect}} | ::Wait which official website calls them Sledge Bros. 0_0 and also Sledge Bros. are never called Sledge Bros. in the game they are called Sledge Brothers in the manual of SMB3 the only time a game has ever called them that. While there have been 3 straight games that have officially called them Sumo Bro. and once again whether you like Prima or not they are the official makers of Nintendo game guides what they say is canon unless it conflicts with other more reliable sources like a Nintendo Power guide or a game. Also I would like to point out that at the edit was made that said a guide had called them Sumo Bros. Prima was considered an unofficial source (or at least every one before 2007 was) and New Super Mario Bros. was made in 2006 which means that the guide that calls them Sumo Bro. would most likely be a Nintendo Power guide. {{User|Raven Effect}} | ||
:::I never said official I just said websites. I know Prima is the official source for game guides, but that doesn't mean they don't make mistakes, as stated above XSXNX's comment. SMB3 refers to them as Sledge Bros. the only game with Sledge Bros. before Sumo Bros. were invented. Just because something is an official game guide, doesn't mean the cannot make mistakes, three times. {{User|Koopa K}} | :::I never said official I just said websites. I know Prima is the official source for game guides, but that doesn't mean they don't make mistakes, as stated above XSXNX's comment. SMB3 refers to them as Sledge Bros. the only game with Sledge Bros. before Sumo Bros. were invented. Just because something is an official game guide, doesn't mean the cannot make mistakes, three times. {{User|Koopa K}} | ||
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'''@XXSuperXXNintendoXx''' what makes a manual made by Nintendo more canon then a guide book made by Nintendo? also the Zelda series stuff has no impact here. '''@Technickal''' that is a terrible idea to merge two things that share nothing in common but a name is ridiculous. At opposers you base your votes for the most part on the fact that Nintendo called them Sledge Bros. originally but ignore the fact that Nintendo then renamed them Sumo Bro. a name which they have been called ever since by Prima who makes the official guide books. You also ignore the fact that in that same manual Blooper Nannies were called Blooper with kids but were later renamed Blooper Nannies and the fact that Bloopers were originally called Bloobers. So I have no idea why you are opposing this unless you A: belive that we should call Bloopers Bloobers, Boos Boo Boo Diddley, and Blooper Nannies Blooper with kids. Or B: You don't want to hammer bros. sub-species to have the same name which is a flawed argument because we already have that [[Boomerang Bro. (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga)]]. {{User|Raven Effect}} | '''@XXSuperXXNintendoXx''' what makes a manual made by Nintendo more canon then a guide book made by Nintendo? also the Zelda series stuff has no impact here. '''@Technickal''' that is a terrible idea to merge two things that share nothing in common but a name is ridiculous. At opposers you base your votes for the most part on the fact that Nintendo called them Sledge Bros. originally but ignore the fact that Nintendo then renamed them Sumo Bro. a name which they have been called ever since by Prima who makes the official guide books. You also ignore the fact that in that same manual Blooper Nannies were called Blooper with kids but were later renamed Blooper Nannies and the fact that Bloopers were originally called Bloobers. So I have no idea why you are opposing this unless you A: belive that we should call Bloopers Bloobers, Boos Boo Boo Diddley, and Blooper Nannies Blooper with kids. Or B: You don't want to hammer bros. sub-species to have the same name which is a flawed argument because we already have that [[Boomerang Bro. (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga)]]. {{User|Raven Effect}} | ||
Technically, Sledge Bro. is the more common name, named that in SMB3,YS,TAoSMB3, | Technically, Sledge Bro. is the more common name, named that in SMB3,YS,TAoSMB3,SMA, and most likely MKW. While the Sumo Bro. name is mistakenly used in NSMB, NSMBW, and NSMB2. {{User|Koopa K}} | ||
