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| True, but there is no other character blatantly named shadow, and we can always add a distinguish if necessary. [[User:Chat Man|Chat Man]] ([[User talk:Chat Man|talk]]) 21:11, 29 October 2017 (EDT) | | True, but there is no other character blatantly named shadow, and we can always add a distinguish if necessary. [[User:Chat Man|Chat Man]] ([[User talk:Chat Man|talk]]) 21:11, 29 October 2017 (EDT) |
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| ::Makes sense to me. I think you can go ahead and move it.
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| ::{{User:Ultimate Mr. L/sig}} 21:29, 29 October 2017 (EDT)
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| == Rename Shadow back to {{fake link|Shadow (enemy)}}, and rename either [[Shadow (character)]] or [[Shadow (disambiguation)]] to {{fake link|Shadow}} in its place ==
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| {{Settled TPP}}
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| {{Proposal outcome|passed|1-8-0|Move back to "Shadow (enemy)", rename "Shadow (disambiguation)" to "Shadow"}}
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| [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/62#Change full names of crossover characters to the more often used shortened versions in article titles|One particular proposal]] has determined that crossover characters should have their article names shortened to their most commonly used name. This led to Shadow the Hedgehog's article to be renamed to [[Shadow (character)]], resulting in the awkward current position of this well-known ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' character that's been a playable character in a variety of Mario and Sonic crossover games, being given inferiority over... some random ''Super Mario RPG'' enemy.
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| That's like if the [[Peach]] redirect was one to [[Peach (item)]] instead of [[Princess Peach]]. I'm pretty sure someone would more likely look for the Sonic character that was in a bunch of Mario games, over an enemy from one game's early dungeon, when they search for "Shadow".
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| To be fair though, said game's gotten a remake a year ago, so it might be recent enough to be in someone's mind still, and there might be precedence against giving a crossover character the priority here. So I have two options:
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| #Give Shadow the Hedgehog the priority
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| #Give our "Shadow" [[Shadow (disambiguation)|disambiguation page]] the priority
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| In any case, the current "Shadow" article should be moved to "Shadow (enemy)" (or "Shadow (Super Mario RPG)" in case we get another enemy named "Shadow"), because I don't think this minor enemy should be prioritized ''over'' a major crossover character (but, I'm okay with the two entities being given ''equal'' priority), hence the inclusion of the second option
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| '''Proposer''': {{User|Arend}}<br>
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| '''Deadline''': January 6, 2025, 23:59 GMT
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| ===Option 1: Move the SMRPG enemy to "Shadow (enemy)", move Shadow (character) to "Shadow"===
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| #{{User|Arend}} Per proposal.
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| ===Option 2: Move the SMRPG enemy to "Shadow (enemy)", move Shadow (disambiguation) to "Shadow"===
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| #{{User|Arend}} Also per proposal.
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| #{{User|Hewer}} A little surprised this needs a proposal but sure, I support this. [[Red]] and [[Ninja]] are good examples for precedent.
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| #{{User|LittleLum}} Per proposal.
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| #{{User|Jdtendo}} If there's no clear-cut way to tell which of the two Shadows is the more prominent subject, we might as well make "{{fake link|Shadow}}" a disambiguation page.
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| #{{User|Rykitu}} Per all.
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| #{{User|Technetium}} I still think we should just focus on a proposal to unshorten the names, but sure why not on this. Especially since I assume Shadow the Hedgehog would need to be listed on the Shadow disambiguation page too.
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| #{{User|FanOfYoshi}} Rename back to Shadow the Hedgehog!
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| #{{User|GuntherBayBeee}} Perhaps it would be great if there's a possibility to move [[Shadow (character)|Shadow]] to {{fake link|Shadow (''Sonic the Hedgehog'')|Shadow (Sonic the Hedgehog)}}.
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| ===Option 3: Keep the SMRPG enemy as "Shadow"===
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| ===Comments (Shadow)===
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| {{@|GuntherBayBeee}}, uh... Why are you so insistent on ''not'' naming it "Shadow the Hedgehog"? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 09:01, January 3, 2025 (EST)
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| :What gave you that impression? He didn't mention the idea of that rename at all, and it's also not what this proposal is about. Again, that debate's been had [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/62#Change full names of crossover characters to the more often used shortened versions in article titles|quite a]] [[Talk:Shadow (character)#Rename to "Shadow"|few]] [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/69#Remove "Koopa" and other name particles from Koopaling article titles - take 2|times]] [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/71#Move "Princess Peach" and "Princess Daisy" to "Peach" and "Daisy"|already]], let's stay on topic this time. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 19:04, January 3, 2025 (EST)
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| ::I might have just misread/misinterpreted the comment then... --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 04:05, January 4, 2025 (EST)
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