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==Rename [[Rudy the Clown]] to [[Rudy]]== | ==Rename [[Rudy the Clown]] to [[Rudy]]== | ||
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As mentioned above on this talk page, the character is unnamed in his debut appearance, and was not named until ''[[Dr. Mario 64]]'' which called him "Rudy". A decade later, the character was mentioned in ''[[Fortune Street]]'' as "Rudy the Clown". (This wiki's use of "Rudy the Clown" predates the localization of ''Fortune Street'', so this is a possible case of citogenesis.) Because ''Fortune Street'' was localized by a party who may have been unaware that "the Clown" was not part of the character's name, I feel it reasonable to think we'd essentially be citing ourselves for it. | As mentioned above on this talk page, the character is unnamed in his debut appearance, and was not named until ''[[Dr. Mario 64]]'' which called him "Rudy". A decade later, the character was mentioned in ''[[Fortune Street]]'' as "Rudy the Clown". (This wiki's use of "Rudy the Clown" predates the localization of ''Fortune Street'', so this is a possible case of citogenesis.) Because ''Fortune Street'' was localized by a party who may have been unaware that "the Clown" was not part of the character's name, I feel it reasonable to think we'd essentially be citing ourselves for it. | ||
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== Regarding the above == | == Regarding the above == | ||
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So, given the Nipper Dandelion proposal, should we move this back to Rudy the Clown? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:26, March 30, 2019 (EDT) | So, given the Nipper Dandelion proposal, should we move this back to Rudy the Clown? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:26, March 30, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:This is a separate thing, as in this case Rudy had an older English name. I do think that it should be moved back due to similar reasons of why I want Watage Pakkun to be moved, however I feel that a counterproposal is required in this case. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 11:28, March 30, 2019 (EDT) | :This is a separate thing, as in this case Rudy had an older English name. I do think that it should be moved back due to similar reasons of why I want Watage Pakkun to be moved, however I feel that a counterproposal is required in this case. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 11:28, March 30, 2019 (EDT) | ||
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:::No. Firstly, the Nipper Dandelion proposal has not run its course. Secondly, this action requires another proposal to override it. Thirdly, as that proposal itself claims (unless it wasn't being entirely ingenuous), "'''''These situations are different and thus should not be compared.'''''" Note that Square Enix primarily outsourced the ''Fortune Street'' translation to Plus Alpha Translations, a third-party, and was not done in-house. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:36, March 30, 2019 (EDT) | :::No. Firstly, the Nipper Dandelion proposal has not run its course. Secondly, this action requires another proposal to override it. Thirdly, as that proposal itself claims (unless it wasn't being entirely ingenuous), "'''''These situations are different and thus should not be compared.'''''" Note that Square Enix primarily outsourced the ''Fortune Street'' translation to Plus Alpha Translations, a third-party, and was not done in-house. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:36, March 30, 2019 (EDT) | ||
::::I still stand by what I said about that "'''''These situations are different and thus should not be compared.'''''" and that a counterproposal would be required. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 12:39, March 30, 2019 (EDT) | ::::I still stand by what I said about that "'''''These situations are different and thus should not be compared.'''''" and that a counterproposal would be required. {{User:Doomhiker/sig}} 12:39, March 30, 2019 (EDT) | ||