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If anyone is wondering about the name it comes from GoNintendo.com [[File:Paperjorgesp.png]] [[User:Paper Jorge|PJ]]
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:How does it come from there? {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 23:50, 18 July 2007 (EDT)
:How does it come from there? {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 23:50, 18 July 2007 (EDT)
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==Concept Art: Keep or Delete?==
==Concept Art: Keep or Delete?==
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[[http://kinsmangames.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/the-secret-of-princess-rosalina/|This page]] suggests she is the daughter of Peach. [[User:YL/sig]].
[[http://kinsmangames.wordpress.com/2010/03/07/the-secret-of-princess-rosalina/|This page]] suggests she is the daughter of Peach. [[User:YL/sig]].


In French version of Mario Galaxy, epilogue hint that Mario is her father : "I would like once every hundred years, back to my blue planet, and dozed on the knees of my dad stroking the mustache that made his pride." - Daneel
In French version of Mario Galaxy, epilogue hint that Mario is her father : "I would like once every hundred years, back to my blue planet, and dozed on the knees of my dad stroking the mustache that made ​​his pride." - Daneel


==She in SSBB==
==She in SSBB==
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==Leave Category:Aliens in the Article==
==Leave Category:Aliens in the Article==
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According to the Aliens category, Aliens are: ''....creatures from outer space, or otherwise not originally from Mushroom World or Earth.''
According to the Aliens category, Aliens are: ''....creatures from outer space, or otherwise not originally from Mushroom World or Earth.''


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==Deciding Rosalina's Infobox Picture==
==Deciding Rosalina's Infobox Picture==
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Recently, we have a slight edit war concerning Rosalina's infobox picture. Apparently, some of us are fine with the way she looks in the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' picture, otherwise, some of us want to change it because they see nothing wrong with it and besides, updating it to meet current games. I would like to stop this ridiculous edit war once and for all and settle this....like men (and women).
Recently, we have a slight edit war concerning Rosalina's infobox picture. Apparently, some of us are fine with the way she looks in the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' picture, otherwise, some of us want to change it because they see nothing wrong with it and besides, updating it to meet current games. I would like to stop this ridiculous edit war once and for all and settle this....like men (and women).


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==Move [[Rosalina]] to [[Princess Rosalina]]==
==Move [[Rosalina]] to [[Princess Rosalina]]==
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{{Proposal outcome|failed|2-17|Do not move}}
{{ProposalOutcome|failed|2-17|Do not move}}
So, I know that lots of users had proposed that, but once again I will propose it: Move Rosalina's page to ''"Princess Rosalina"''. I would say that because she '''is a princess''', and I'm not saying this because of her crown or even her dress. Her Super Mario Galaxy's bio states:{{br}}"Not much is known about Rosalina, the lonely princess who wanders the cosmos in the Comet Observatory, a giant starship that travels the celestial expanse. She is a great friend of the Luma, taking them in and caring for them as if they were her children. But there is a sadness behind her eyes. What has she lost out among the stars?"
So, I know that lots of users had proposed that, but once again I will propose it: Move Rosalina's page to ''"Princess Rosalina"''. I would say that because she '''is a princess''', and I'm not saying this because of her crown or even her dress. Her Super Mario Galaxy's bio states:{{br}}"Not much is known about Rosalina, the lonely princess who wanders the cosmos in the Comet Observatory, a giant starship that travels the celestial expanse. She is a great friend of the Luma, taking them in and caring for them as if they were her children. But there is a sadness behind her eyes. What has she lost out among the stars?"


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==Decide Rosalina artwork==
==Decide Rosalina artwork==
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My proposal is simple: to decide what artwork should be used for Rosalina in her infobox at the top of the page. In a previous TPP, it was decided to use her ''Super Mario Galaxy'' (SMG) artwork, but it has been changed to her artwork from ''Mario Kart Arcade GP DX'' (MK). However, the artwork should be from her ''Super Mario Galaxy'' appearance for many reasons, the first having to do with technical aspects of the picture; the MK artwork has a white background, so Rosalina inside a white box inside a light green box, which looks unprofessional and slapped together; in her SMG artwork, however, there is no background. The second is that she is holding a wand in her SMG artwork, and the artwork for each character is to show his/her aspects and personality, so the wand shows readers at a first glance that she has some magical or mysterious aspect to her without reading a word of the article. She is also always depicted with this everywhere except in the ''Mario Kart'' series, due to the fact that she must drive with both hands. The last reason why her SMG artwork should be used is that SMG is a much more recognized and bigger game than MK: SMG has been release in almost every territory where the Wii is sold and has even become a Nintendo Select, whereas MK is an arcade game in Japan (and possibly the US, though even that is unsure); the MarioWiki article for SMG is also far more extensive than it is for MK, making SMG the definitive game. For all of these reasons, Rosalina's artwork for ''Super Mario Galaxy'' should be used for her infobox.
My proposal is simple: to decide what artwork should be used for Rosalina in her infobox at the top of the page. In a previous TPP, it was decided to use her ''Super Mario Galaxy'' (SMG) artwork, but it has been changed to her artwork from ''Mario Kart Arcade GP DX'' (MK). However, the artwork should be from her ''Super Mario Galaxy'' appearance for many reasons, the first having to do with technical aspects of the picture; the MK artwork has a white background, so Rosalina inside a white box inside a light green box, which looks unprofessional and slapped together; in her SMG artwork, however, there is no background. The second is that she is holding a wand in her SMG artwork, and the artwork for each character is to show his/her aspects and personality, so the wand shows readers at a first glance that she has some magical or mysterious aspect to her without reading a word of the article. She is also always depicted with this everywhere except in the ''Mario Kart'' series, due to the fact that she must drive with both hands. The last reason why her SMG artwork should be used is that SMG is a much more recognized and bigger game than MK: SMG has been release in almost every territory where the Wii is sold and has even become a Nintendo Select, whereas MK is an arcade game in Japan (and possibly the US, though even that is unsure); the MarioWiki article for SMG is also far more extensive than it is for MK, making SMG the definitive game. For all of these reasons, Rosalina's artwork for ''Super Mario Galaxy'' should be used for her infobox.
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::How does that even work? Does that mean she is a [[Wikipedia:Deity|deity]] or something? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:46, 3 May 2017 (EDT)
::How does that even work? Does that mean she is a [[Wikipedia:Deity|deity]] or something? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 16:46, 3 May 2017 (EDT)


In case you are wondering, both the {{file link|EncyclopediaSMB - Characters pt2.jpg|Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.}} and [[List of Rosalina profiles and statistics#Kids section of Nintendo Co., Ltd. site|the bio on the Kids section]] [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/kids/character/rosetta/index.html of NCL's site] confirm that she's a ''mysterious woman'', which is also what is stated [[List of Rosalina profiles and statistics#Flag Description (Wii U version)|in her bio in Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games]], with Mario Party Star Rush [[Character Museum#Character bios|calling her a ''mysterious lady'']] as well, just like [[List of Rosalina profiles and statistics#Miis' Dialogues (Wii U version)|one of the Miis' dialogues in the aformentioned Mario & Sonic game]]. The PRIMA guide is according to the policy a valid source and we cannot alter that without changing the Wiki policy altogether, but her being a princess is not stated in current bios. That this is another change in her depiction or just a mistake introduced at the time for various reasons such as her wearing a tiara is something we will have to clarify by looking at various Japanese bios, but for the moment I guess we can change the full name while still stating that according to the PRIMA guide and the Mario Kart 8 Direct she is a princess - we shouldn't remove the references just because they don't fit the current bios in my opinion.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:09, 3 May 2017 (EDT)
In case you are wondering, both the {{media link|EncyclopediaSMB - Characters pt2.jpg|Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.}} and [[List of Rosalina profiles and statistics#Kids section of Nintendo Co., Ltd. site|the bio on the Kids section]] [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/kids/character/rosetta/index.html of NCL's site] confirm that she's a ''mysterious woman'', which is also what is stated [[List of Rosalina profiles and statistics#Flag Description (Wii U version)|in her bio in Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games]], with Mario Party Star Rush [[Character Museum#Character bios|calling her a ''mysterious lady'']] as well, just like [[List of Rosalina profiles and statistics#Miis' Dialogues (Wii U version)|one of the Miis' dialogues in the aformentioned Mario & Sonic game]]. The PRIMA guide is according to the policy a valid source and we cannot alter that without changing the Wiki policy altogether, but her being a princess is not stated in current bios. That this is another change in her depiction or just a mistake introduced at the time for various reasons such as her wearing a tiara is something we will have to clarify by looking at various Japanese bios, but for the moment I guess we can change the full name while still stating that according to the PRIMA guide and the Mario Kart 8 Direct she is a princess - we shouldn't remove the references just because they don't fit the current bios in my opinion.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:09, 3 May 2017 (EDT)
:No, I'm not saying we should remove the references; they are valid according to policy. I'm just trying to find an agreement: What should we classify Rosalina as? Official bios seem to stay away from the "princess" motif for the most part, so Prima is really the best we got in that sense. If we go off of in-game or Nintendo's official bios, "mysterious lady" or "Cosmic Guardian" are the best titles so far.
:No, I'm not saying we should remove the references; they are valid according to policy. I'm just trying to find an agreement: What should we classify Rosalina as? Official bios seem to stay away from the "princess" motif for the most part, so Prima is really the best we got in that sense. If we go off of in-game or Nintendo's official bios, "mysterious lady" or "Cosmic Guardian" are the best titles so far.
:Honestly, I think the tiara/crown/whatever-that-is is a leftover from her initial design, when she was originally made out to be related to [[Princess Peach]] in some way, and I guess the devs just liked it as part of her character. Considering her relations to any other character was dropped, it makes Rosalina look like she's just trying to copy the other princesses. :P {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:26, 3 May 2017 (EDT)
:Honestly, I think the tiara/crown/whatever-that-is is a leftover from her initial design, when she was originally made out to be related to [[Princess Peach]] in some way, and I guess the devs just liked it as part of her character. Considering her relations to any other character was dropped, it makes Rosalina look like she's just trying to copy the other princesses. :P {{User:Alex95/sig}} 18:26, 3 May 2017 (EDT)
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== Listing Rosalina's appearance in The Super Mario Bros. Movie. ==
== Listing Rosalina's appearance in The Super Mario Bros. Movie. ==
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{{Proposal outcome|vetoed|The intent of this proposal is based entirely on speculation, which is one thing this wiki does not allow in any way.}}
{{ProposalOutcome|vetoed|The intent of this proposal is based entirely on speculation, which is one thing this wiki does not allow in any way.}}
I think we should list Rosalina's appearance in ''[[The Super Mario Bros. Movie]]''. Why? Because she's highly definitely likely to appear. Hint one, the [[Lumalee]] leaked [[McDonald's]] [[Happy Meal]] toy. Hint two, [[Princess Peach]]'s "'''There's a huge universe out there... with a lot of galaxies.'''" line. Hint three, the Lumalee leaked McDonald's toy. Hint four, the Lumalee appearing in the official final trailer. Hint five, Gusty Garden Galaxy music being used. Also, why in the stars would a Lumalee appear without Rosalina? Where's [[Yoshi]], [[Wario]], [[Waluigi]], [[Bowser Jr.]], the [[Koopalings]], [[Princess Daisy]], [[Dry Bowser]], [[King K. Rool]], [[Wart]], [[King Boo]], and more? [[User:MarioBobfan2007'snewaccount|MarioBobfan2007'snewaccount]] ([[User talk:MarioBobfan2007'snewaccount|talk]]) 22:40, March 17, 2023 (EDT)}}
I think we should list Rosalina's appearance in ''[[The Super Mario Bros. Movie]]''. Why? Because she's highly definitely likely to appear. Hint one, the [[Lumalee]] leaked [[McDonald's]] [[Happy Meal]] toy. Hint two, [[Princess Peach]]'s "'''There's a huge universe out there... with a lot of galaxies.'''" line. Hint three, the Lumalee leaked McDonald's toy. Hint four, the Lumalee appearing in the official final trailer. Hint five, Gusty Garden Galaxy music being used. Also, why in the stars would a Lumalee appear without Rosalina? Where's [[Yoshi]], [[Wario]], [[Waluigi]], [[Bowser Jr.]], the [[Koopalings]], [[Princess Daisy]], [[Dry Bowser]], [[King K. Rool]], [[Wart]], [[King Boo]], and more? [[User:MarioBobfan2007'snewaccount|MarioBobfan2007'snewaccount]] ([[User talk:MarioBobfan2007'snewaccount|talk]]) 22:40, March 17, 2023 (EDT)}}


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Rosalina’s Korean name 로젤리나 should be romanized “Rojellina” due to how Korean romanization works. [[User:ArgentuTA164|ArgentuTA164]] ([[User talk:ArgentuTA164|talk]]) 22:22, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
Rosalina’s Korean name 로젤리나 should be romanized “Rojellina” due to how Korean romanization works. [[User:ArgentuTA164|ArgentuTA164]] ([[User talk:ArgentuTA164|talk]]) 22:22, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
== Very powerful figure? (+ Line sticker) ==
I'm kind of unsure about the very first phrase in the intro of her article. What does "very powerful figure" actually mean in her case, since Rosalina does not do anything particularly powerful/daysaving in the games she appears in? After all, it’s Mario who does most of the work, and characters like Bowser are shown to have an immense number of resources. I think it would be better to just start the phrase as “Her duty is […]”, which is already descriptive of her role in the series without being potentially biased (I still remember this page being even more POV-ridden, lol…) Plus, I'm confused about the LINE sticker in the personality section… honestly, I don't think it is that indicative of Rosalina's personality, since she is very rarely shown upset, as in the sticker. Of course feel free to tell me if you disagree. This is just a hindsight on my part. {{unsigned|Wallowigi}}
:I think it's meant to describe her portrayal in ''Galaxy'' where she seems to have knowledge of how the universe works, and powers that transcend the universe's rebirth (when she appears before Mario much larger than usual). [[User:MarioComix|MarioComix]] ([[User talk:MarioComix|talk]]) 20:50, April 24, 2024 (EDT)
::And not only that: she has other powers as well, such as teleportation, use of telepathy, levitation, shields, and using her wand magic, among others. She also watches over and protects the ''entire universe'', which takes a lot of work in itself. Mario only did work for her because Bowser took the Power Stars, so she was literally stranded as the Observatory couldn't go anywhere and she was not powerful enough on her own to defeat Bowser (for many reasons). So I think the description "very powerful figure" (what with her SMG disposition and her supernatural powers) fits Rosalina. And I may love Rosalina, but I am not biased when I say this, I promise. This is all logical. -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 23:46, June 7, 2024 (EDT)
:::The Line sticker? She doesn't seem upset to me. She just seems like she's making a serious/neutral face that a lot of fashion models do, that can be read as contemptuous or irritated. It's basically a, excuse my language, "{{wp|resting bitch face}}"? {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:18, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
::::I honestly don't know why the Line sticker is in the "Personality and Traits" section, because that's not her personality at all (just look at SMG or pretty much any other game she's in). But I agree, she doesn't seem ''upset'' in the sticker, just serious (and somewhat prideful or haughty...). -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 22:37, June 9, 2024 (EDT)
== Voice in Super Mario Party Jamboree ==
Is her voice actress changed in ''[[Super Mario Party Jamboree]]''? I didn't found her voice changed. Kevin Afghani and Giselle Fernandez voiced Cap trio (Mario/Luigi/Wario) and Daisy, respectively. Even Waluigi got his new voice actor. [[User:Windy|Windy]] ([[User talk:Windy|talk]]) 09:27, October 16, 2024 (EDT)
:If you don't know, then don't make that edit in the article. Just because some characters got new voice actors, doesn't mean ''everyone'' has. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 09:56, October 16, 2024 (EDT)
::Someone should confirm her voice was changed or not. It's a little spoiler. [[User:Windy|Windy]] ([[User talk:Windy|talk]]) 12:12, October 16, 2024 (EDT)
:::The voice was not changed; [https://youtu.be/-DoZsLUJ9t0?t=11600 Laura Faye Smith is credited]. <br>--[[User:PhGuy12|PhGuy12]] ([[User talk:PhGuy12|talk]]) 13:05, October 16, 2024 (EDT)
:Let me ask you one question. Did she make a cameo appearance in the latest RPG? Or her voice actress credited? [[User:Windy|Windy]] ([[User talk:Windy|talk]]) 10:46, November 10, 2024 (EST)
::Rosalina is not in Brothership. [[User:Technetium|Technetium]] ([[User talk:Technetium|talk]]) 10:49, November 10, 2024 (EST)

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