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== Merge Sunshine info with [[Block Boo]] and have the "mainarticle" template be here instead ==
== Merge Sunshine info with [[Block Boo]] and have the "mainarticle" template be here instead ==


{{Settled TPP}}
{{SettledTPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|7-0|merge}}
{{ProposalOutcome|passed|7-0|merge}}


See above. The JP name for the Sunshine enemy is "Block Teresa," which is shared with Boo Block, and it essentially acts analogous to Boo Block given the nonstandard nature of Boos in the game.
See above. The JP name for the Sunshine enemy is "Block Teresa," which is shared with Boo Block, and it essentially acts analogous to Boo Block given the nonstandard nature of Boos in the game.
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== Regarding this, the other colors, and the standard Boo page ==
== Regarding this, the other colors, and the standard Boo page ==


{{talk}}
So, somewhat tying into the above, we may want to seriously consider merging the rest of this page to the standard Boo page, along with Green, <s>Blue,</s> <small>(EDIT:oh wait "Blue Boo" is Boo Balloon)</small> and potentially Black Boos. As this article says, "They are treated and behave similarly to white Boos, with the only difference being their coloration in most depictions," along with having that big old part-conjecture template. Furthermore, the roles have been shown to vary amongst each other (with MP6's just being a valley girl version of the previous games' Boos), sometimes Red, Green, and Blue simply act the same but as a trio (much like the split [[Koopa Kid]]s, which share an article), and overall, this is primarily a color variant post-N64 to pre-Nd Cube ''Mario Party'' games used for variety's sake, with other appearances having even less reason to be split. Even the SMBDX thing is just a time trial gimmick that could easily share one page. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:46, October 22, 2020 (EDT)
So, somewhat tying into the above, we may want to seriously consider merging the rest of this page to the standard Boo page, along with Green, <s>Blue,</s> <small>(EDIT:oh wait "Blue Boo" is Boo Balloon)</small> and potentially Black Boos. As this article says, "They are treated and behave similarly to white Boos, with the only difference being their coloration in most depictions," along with having that big old part-conjecture template. Furthermore, the roles have been shown to vary amongst each other (with MP6's just being a valley girl version of the previous games' Boos), sometimes Red, Green, and Blue simply act the same but as a trio (much like the split [[Koopa Kid]]s, which share an article), and overall, this is primarily a color variant post-N64 to pre-Nd Cube ''Mario Party'' games used for variety's sake, with other appearances having even less reason to be split. Even the SMBDX thing is just a time trial gimmick that could easily share one page. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 03:46, October 22, 2020 (EDT)
:I absolutely agree that the Green, and Black Boos should be merged since they hardly made relevant appearance besides one and two appearance respectively and acted the same. Not even the actual "Blue Boos" from ''Mario Party Advance'' and ''Mario Party DS'' have an article nor does the "Yellow Boo" from ''Mario Party DS''. While its true that the Pink Boos are simply a color variation like most species and usually behaving exactly in almost every game. However, besides being the second most common Boo color in appearance in games with regular ones being the most common of course, Pink Boos had a purpose of being replacements to regular Boos due to Boo itself being playable since ''Mario Party 5'', the Pink Boos took the regular Boos old role as replacements of being background characters, obstacles on boards or mini-games, thieves of stealing coins and stars up until ''Mario Party DS'' due to Boo not appearing as a playable. I honestly don't know who made the Blue Boo article redirect to the Boo Balloon without a source like a manual calling them that alternatively. Also a side question is that even though I own ''Mario Party: The Top 100'' where did the Pink Boo cameo? I do find it funny were talking about this on a rather fitting month ironically. --[[User:KingGeoshiKoopshi64|KingGeoshiKoopshi64]] ([[User talk:KingGeoshiKoopshi64|talk]]) 03:33, October 23, 2020 (EDT)
:I absolutely agree that the Green, and Black Boos should be merged since they hardly made relevant appearance besides one and two appearance respectively and acted the same. Not even the actual "Blue Boos" from ''Mario Party Advance'' and ''Mario Party DS'' have an article nor does the "Yellow Boo" from ''Mario Party DS''. While its true that the Pink Boos are simply a color variation like most species and usually behaving exactly in almost every game. However, besides being the second most common Boo color in appearance in games with regular ones being the most common of course, Pink Boos had a purpose of being replacements to regular Boos due to Boo itself being playable since ''Mario Party 5'', the Pink Boos took the regular Boos old role as replacements of being background characters, obstacles on boards or mini-games, thieves of stealing coins and stars up until ''Mario Party DS'' due to Boo not appearing as a playable. I honestly don't know who made the Blue Boo article redirect to the Boo Balloon without a source like a manual calling them that alternatively. Also a side question is that even though I own ''Mario Party: The Top 100'' where did the Pink Boo cameo? I do find it funny were talking about this on a rather fitting month ironically. --[[User:KingGeoshiKoopshi64|KingGeoshiKoopshi64]] ([[User talk:KingGeoshiKoopshi64|talk]]) 03:33, October 23, 2020 (EDT)
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:::::::::I think I remember it was considered to be a Pink Boo due to guide book calling them that to give this article its own relevant page before the discovered official name of the ''SMS'' incarnation of the Boo Block. I certainly agree that this article should merge to Boos'. The info of this article is pretty minor and it would fit nice in the game sections for Boos' article. Though the Black Boo first appeared way before the Boo Bomb made it's debut even if they resemble quite strongly. --[[User:KingGeoshiKoopshi64|KingGeoshiKoopshi64]] ([[User talk:KingGeoshiKoopshi64|talk]]) 11:53, October 25, 2020 (EDT)
:::::::::I think I remember it was considered to be a Pink Boo due to guide book calling them that to give this article its own relevant page before the discovered official name of the ''SMS'' incarnation of the Boo Block. I certainly agree that this article should merge to Boos'. The info of this article is pretty minor and it would fit nice in the game sections for Boos' article. Though the Black Boo first appeared way before the Boo Bomb made it's debut even if they resemble quite strongly. --[[User:KingGeoshiKoopshi64|KingGeoshiKoopshi64]] ([[User talk:KingGeoshiKoopshi64|talk]]) 11:53, October 25, 2020 (EDT)
::::::::::At this point, this is so true and I agree with all. All Boos should have a section to the article [[Boo]]. But how do we do that? [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 20:58, October 30, 2020 (EDT)
::::::::::At this point, this is so true and I agree with all. All Boos should have a section to the article [[Boo]]. But how do we do that? [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 20:58, October 30, 2020 (EDT)
:::::::::::Incorporate the colors for each game section, like anything else with color variation. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:51, October 30, 2020 (EDT)
::::::::::::Doc von I love that answer, thanks. [[User:Benjaminkirsc|Benjaminkirsc]] ([[User talk:Benjaminkirsc|talk]]) 08:46, November 1, 2020 (EST)
== Merge to Boo ==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|3-11-1|clean up}}
I feel that the rest of this page, being a color variation, can reasonably be merged to the base Boo page. Not only is it almost exclusively ''Mario Party'' info, any time its role is substantially different from white Boos', it's not terrifically different from the red vs green Lakitus in ''Mario Kart 7'' and onwards. Also, the other SMBDX colors have already been merged.
EDIT: Adding a "clean up page" option. This will just remove the SMBDX, Sunshine, Tennis, MPA, and MPDS info and leave the rest.
'''Proposer''': {{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}}<br>
'''Deadline''': September 19, 2021, 23:59 GMT
===Merge===
#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per
#{{User|Hewer}} Per proposal, this seems to just be a colour variation (something we normally don't split) and since the other coloured Boos are already merged this only makes sense.
#{{user|7feetunder}} Preferred over leaving as-is; per proposal.
===Clean up===
#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per; second choice
#{{user|7feetunder}} Per my comments below. The other ''SMBDX'' Boos were merged and the ''MT'' palette swap is no more notable than any of the other palette swapped characters in that game (or ''Mario Golf'', ''Smash Bros.'', etc.), so the article should at least be limited to covering the ones notable enough to warrant being split.
#{{User|Ray Trace}} This I can get behind.
#{{User|Archivist Toadette}} Per Ray Trace.
#{{User|Swallow}} Per all
#{{User|ShootingStar7X}} Per all.
#{{User|Somethingone}} This does seem like the best of both worlds option. Per all.
#{{User|WildWario}} Per all.
#{{User|Tails777}} I can agree to this too. Per all.
#{{User|KingGeoshiKoopshi64}} After some consideration. I have changed my mind and decided to go with this.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per all.
===Oppose===
#{{User|Duckfan77}} Per all.
===Comments===
I'm a bit iffy about comparing this to red shell Lakitu, because unlike the playable Lakitu from Mario Kart, these Boos are certainly named differently (rather than called generic "Boos" for most entries, including Mario Party 4, 7, 8; though they were called generic Boos in 6, but the Pink Boo that steals Stars on the boards is inconsistently named, sometimes calling her a generic Boo, sometimes calling her Pink Boo) and had a specific gameplay role about them. Not to mention they both co-existed as board specific NPCs in Mario Party 4. So yeah, I think they warrant a page more than the other Boos do. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 03:27, September 5, 2021 (EDT)
I think there should be a middle ground option to only merge the non-''Mario Party'' content, since that seems to be the main point of contention. That's what we did with the [[White Shy Guy]] from ''Yoshi's Story''. ([[Black Shy Guy]] also still needs cleaned up, but that effort seems to have gone on hiatus after the Anti Guy proposal failed to reach a consensus). The ''SMBDX'' incarnation is the same deal as the other colored Boos and the ''Mario Tennis'' one is just a playable character palette swap a la [[:File:Yoshi'sIslandMarioGolf.png|yellow Donkey Kong]] in ''Mario Golf.{{User:7feetunder/sig}} 18:05, September 5, 2021 (EDT)
:How about cases like ''Mario Party DS'', though? It's MP, but isn't treated at all special. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:41, September 6, 2021 (EDT)
::I don't know. Maybe exclude ''MPA'' and ''MPDS'' due to the generic portrayal in those games? I'm just trying to come up with a way to clean this page up, since right now this page has the same problem Black Shy Guy does, and if we can't convince the opposition to merge it entirely, it will stay that way if there's no third option. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 01:11, September 6, 2021 (EDT)
@Duckfan77 Everyone else that voted oppose changed their vote, you might want to change your reasoning if you're still voting oppose. [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 09:43, September 9, 2021 (EDT)

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