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<span style="font-size:10.5pt">'''N.B.: Due to the success of [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive#Prevent_loss_of_information_.28Recipes.29|this proposal]] (if the link does not work any longer, click [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 9#Prevent_loss_of_information_.28Recipes.29|here]]), ''if the [[:Category:Recipes|Recipes pages]] are eventually merged into this page, all possible recipe combinations and all pieces of important trivia must remain somewhere easily accessible on the wiki''.'''</span> —{{User:Soler/sig}} 15:19, 22 June 2008 (EDT). | <span style="font-size:10.5pt">'''N.B.: Due to the success of [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive#Prevent_loss_of_information_.28Recipes.29|this proposal]] (if the link does not work any longer, click [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 9#Prevent_loss_of_information_.28Recipes.29|here]]), ''if the [[:Category:Recipes|Recipes pages]] are eventually merged into this page, all possible recipe combinations and all pieces of important trivia must remain somewhere easily accessible on the wiki''.'''</span> —{{User:Soler/sig}} 15:19, 22 June 2008 (EDT). | ||
Who is removing the Big Cookie!? | Who is removing the Big Cookie!? | ||
:I'm removing the fanon about Tayce T. and Zess T. being sisters. --[[User:Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] 20:40, 19 July 2006 (EDT) | :I'm removing the fanon about Tayce T. and Zess T. being sisters. --[[User:Son of Suns|Son of Suns]] 20:40, 19 July 2006 (EDT) | ||
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==Recipes== | ==Recipes== | ||
For every recipe you include, could you add it to the Recipe Category? | For every recipe you include, could you add it to the Recipe Category? | ||
:I'm not sure who signed this, but I just added all PM2 items that have articles that are made by Zess T. (including the reverse Point Swap effect) into the Recipe Category. Everyone can help out by looking at Category:Recipes and adding it here. ;) <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#008844;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span> 21:17, 19 July 2006 (EDT) | :I'm not sure who signed this, but I just added all PM2 items that have articles that are made by Zess T. (including the reverse Point Swap effect) into the Recipe Category. Everyone can help out by looking at Category:Recipes and adding it here. ;) <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#008844;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span> 21:17, 19 July 2006 (EDT) | ||
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The recipes shouldnt be in red, as it may be confused with a broken link {{User:Tucayo/sig|It should be changed to green}} | The recipes shouldnt be in red, as it may be confused with a broken link {{User:Tucayo/sig|It should be changed to green}} | ||
PS: And each cook should have its list | PS: And each cook should have its list | ||
== New Chart Format! == | == New Chart Format! == | ||
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== Recipe for land meal == | == Recipe for land meal == | ||
I remeber making a bland meal with a mushroom and auper mushroom on my first playthrough of paper mario if anyone can confirm this a valid recipe can they edit the article, although if I find the time I'll probably test it for by myself | I remeber making a bland meal with a mushroom and auper mushroom on my first playthrough of paper mario if anyone can confirm this a valid recipe can they edit the article, although if I find the time I'll probably test it for by myself | ||
== All paper Mario Recipes == | == All paper Mario Recipes == | ||
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==Delete the "List of recipes by ingredient" pages ([[List of Tayce T. recipes by ingredient|Tayce T]], [[List of Zess T. recipes by ingredient|Zess T]], [[List of Saffron and Dyllis Recipes by ingredient|Saffron and Dyllis]])== | ==Delete the "List of recipes by ingredient" pages ([[List of Tayce T. recipes by ingredient|Tayce T]], [[List of Zess T. recipes by ingredient|Zess T]], [[List of Saffron and Dyllis Recipes by ingredient|Saffron and Dyllis]])== | ||
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What I said on the [http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=29237.msg1664324#msg1664324 forums] is basically all I'd like to say on the subject. To put it simply, the pages are useless. Besides all the problems with the articles themselves, like the vast number of missing images and the terrible formatting, they're redundant due to the other recipe pages we have, which compiles all of the same information in a simpler format, and I simply do not see anyone specifically looking for what combinations could be made with a single item. Personally, I would rather have what items were needed to create an item I want than have that information scattered across multiple sections ''or'' see which items that item itself could create. If I wanted something related to, say, Life Shrooms, I'd either go to its actual page (the individual pages all cover the same info as the "recipe by ingredients" pages, so no information would be lost) or the main Recipe page; sorting them by ingredients is simply an unnecessary step. | What I said on the [http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=29237.msg1664324#msg1664324 forums] is basically all I'd like to say on the subject. To put it simply, the pages are useless. Besides all the problems with the articles themselves, like the vast number of missing images and the terrible formatting, they're redundant due to the other recipe pages we have, which compiles all of the same information in a simpler format, and I simply do not see anyone specifically looking for what combinations could be made with a single item. Personally, I would rather have what items were needed to create an item I want than have that information scattered across multiple sections ''or'' see which items that item itself could create. If I wanted something related to, say, Life Shrooms, I'd either go to its actual page (the individual pages all cover the same info as the "recipe by ingredients" pages, so no information would be lost) or the main Recipe page; sorting them by ingredients is simply an unnecessary step. | ||
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== Delete this page. (while keeping the standalone List of 'chef' recipes) == | == Delete this page. (while keeping the standalone List of 'chef' recipes) == | ||
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Okay hear me, this page is a mess. Putting all the recipes from all the different games in one page is messy, [[List of Tayce T. recipes|The]] [[List of Zess T. recipes|Standalone]] [[List of Saffron and Dyllis recipes|lists]] are far more organized, and more updated. Besides, very few recipes are actually shared by multiple chefs. It's redundant and useless. Even some items are named differently per name, having them separated is the best. | Okay hear me, this page is a mess. Putting all the recipes from all the different games in one page is messy, [[List of Tayce T. recipes|The]] [[List of Zess T. recipes|Standalone]] [[List of Saffron and Dyllis recipes|lists]] are far more organized, and more updated. Besides, very few recipes are actually shared by multiple chefs. It's redundant and useless. Even some items are named differently per name, having them separated is the best. | ||
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==Move the chef-based pages to game-based titles== | ==Move the chef-based pages to game-based titles== | ||
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We currently have the pages [[List of Tayce T. recipes]], [[List of Zess T. recipes]], and [[List of Saffron and Dyllis recipes]]. With the middle game's subject getting a remake with some notable differences in its various systems, including recipes, and for consistency with other game-specific lists, I propose we rename these pages to {{fake link|List of ''Paper Mario'' recipes}} and so on to better allow for a separate page. Honestly, the fact that the third of those includes recipes from ''two'' characters is a bit eyebrow-raising in and of itself. Note that this will not affect the layout of the {{tem|Recipes}} navtemp, just the links. | We currently have the pages [[List of Tayce T. recipes]], [[List of Zess T. recipes]], and [[List of Saffron and Dyllis recipes]]. With the middle game's subject getting a remake with some notable differences in its various systems, including recipes, and for consistency with other game-specific lists, I propose we rename these pages to {{fake link|List of ''Paper Mario'' recipes}} and so on to better allow for a separate page. Honestly, the fact that the third of those includes recipes from ''two'' characters is a bit eyebrow-raising in and of itself. Note that this will not affect the layout of the {{tem|Recipes}} navtemp, just the links. | ||
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===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per | #{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per | ||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
==Merge the corresponding "chef-named meal" items to singular pages== | ==Merge the corresponding "chef-named meal" items to singular pages== | ||
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Across the first three ''Paper Mario'' games, there are certain recipes named after the chef who makes them (the exception being the localization for, ironically, the ''first'' game, though the original JP script still has this format) that are for all intents and purposes the same item, which are spread awkwardly across two or three pages while only sometimes linking to the others. Occasionally, the numbers of what is restored are different, but that happens with most of the non-Mushroom or -Syrup items across the games. Here's a list: | Across the first three ''Paper Mario'' games, there are certain recipes named after the chef who makes them (the exception being the localization for, ironically, the ''first'' game, though the original JP script still has this format) that are for all intents and purposes the same item, which are spread awkwardly across two or three pages while only sometimes linking to the others. Occasionally, the numbers of what is restored are different, but that happens with most of the non-Mushroom or -Syrup items across the games. Here's a list: | ||
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#{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per | #{{user|Doc von Schmeltwick}} - Per | ||
#{{user|Blinker}} Per proposal. | #{{user|Blinker}} Per proposal. | ||
===Support: Newest first (not counting TTYD remake: Dyllis Dinner, Dyllis Special, Dyllis Deluxe, Zess Cookie, Dyllis Dynamite)=== | ===Support: Newest first (not counting TTYD remake: Dyllis Dinner, Dyllis Special, Dyllis Deluxe, Zess Cookie, Dyllis Dynamite)=== | ||
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===Oppose: Leave them split=== | ===Oppose: Leave them split=== | ||
#{{User|Hewer}} Eh, I feel like these are probably better off split considering the naming confusion caused by merging them. They seem to me more like multiple similar items than versions of the same item, and [[Talk:Grab Block#Merge White Block with Grab Block | #{{User|Hewer}} Eh, I feel like these are probably better off split considering the naming confusion caused by merging them. They seem to me more like multiple similar items than versions of the same item, and [[Talk:Grab Block#Merge White Block with Grab Block|similar]] [[Talk:Mushroom Genie#Re-merge Mushroom Genie and Genie of the Lamp|doesn't mean]] [[Talk:Poison Mushroom#Merge Rotten Mushroom into this page|the same]]. It's also odd to be merging items like this regardless of different names, but also exclude certain items from the merge because...their names are different. | ||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||