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::::::It's not against policy, but one of the earliest conversations might have sparked from the idea of splitting Koopa Troopas and Koopa Paratroopas based on shell color, which was a [[Talk:Koopa_Troopa#Split_Red_Koopa_Troopa_and_Green_Koopa_Troopa|failed proposal]]. That said, if ''Donkey Kong 64'''s Purple Klaptrap has a size difference with standard Klaptrap, then it does admittedly seem to be a bit more involved than most other recolored enemies, but the fact that purple/red Klaptraps exist elsewhere still makes me lean towards support. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 23:30, 8 September 2018 (EDT) | ::::::It's not against policy, but one of the earliest conversations might have sparked from the idea of splitting Koopa Troopas and Koopa Paratroopas based on shell color, which was a [[Talk:Koopa_Troopa#Split_Red_Koopa_Troopa_and_Green_Koopa_Troopa|failed proposal]]. That said, if ''Donkey Kong 64'''s Purple Klaptrap has a size difference with standard Klaptrap, then it does admittedly seem to be a bit more involved than most other recolored enemies, but the fact that purple/red Klaptraps exist elsewhere still makes me lean towards support. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 23:30, 8 September 2018 (EDT) | ||
:::::::I've gotten every banana in that game. ONE Purple Klaptrap was seemingly larger in gameplay, and it is found in an area entered while Tiny is tiny. Therefore, it's just normal sized. And of course, the thing about N64 and GCN games is that size parameters could be abused anyways. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:02, 9 September 2018 (EDT) | :::::::I've gotten every banana in that game. ONE Purple Klaptrap was seemingly larger in gameplay, and it is found in an area entered while Tiny is tiny. Therefore, it's just normal sized. And of course, the thing about N64 and GCN games is that size parameters could be abused anyways. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:02, 9 September 2018 (EDT) | ||
::::::::There is this part from page 33 the Nintendo Power guide ("Tiny’s Shell Game" in Jungle Japes): "''As a mini-monkey, Tiny can enter the beehive, use oranges to blow up the giant Klaptrap in the room with the Tiny Switch, then pound the switch. The next room also has two purple Klaptraps and another Tiny Switch. That switch opens the final room with the Golden Banana and an angry duo of a bee and a giant Klaptrap.''" So it seems like the writer considers it a giant (at least relative to the player character), but it also doesn't use "Purple Klaptrap" as the enemy's proper name. (Also, it would seem on further inspection that the idea to keep various enemy colors merged may have stemmed from an [[MarioWiki:Proposals/ | ::::::::There is this part from page 33 the Nintendo Power guide ("Tiny’s Shell Game" in Jungle Japes): "''As a mini-monkey, Tiny can enter the beehive, use oranges to blow up the giant Klaptrap in the room with the Tiny Switch, then pound the switch. The next room also has two purple Klaptraps and another Tiny Switch. That switch opens the final room with the Golden Banana and an angry duo of a bee and a giant Klaptrap.''" So it seems like the writer considers it a giant (at least relative to the player character), but it also doesn't use "Purple Klaptrap" as the enemy's proper name. (Also, it would seem on further inspection that the idea to keep various enemy colors merged may have stemmed from an [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_18#Split_the_colored_enemies|older proposal]].) [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 20:56, 9 September 2018 (EDT) | ||
:::::::::Anyways, like I said, N64 games had a tendency to screw around with size parameters (take a look at ''Banjo-Kazooie'' or ''Ocarina of Time'', for example). The game also features about 4 different sizes of [[Gnawty]] around Cranky's lab in Jungle Japes, and there's a seemingly-large [[Zinger]] in the same hive the large purple Klaptrap is found. The only one that really should be split is the oversized Kosha (known by the wiki as "Giant Viking Kremling"), since it doesn't respawn and causes a unique effect across Crystal Caverns while it still exists. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:32, 9 September 2018 (EDT) | :::::::::Anyways, like I said, N64 games had a tendency to screw around with size parameters (take a look at ''Banjo-Kazooie'' or ''Ocarina of Time'', for example). The game also features about 4 different sizes of [[Gnawty]] around Cranky's lab in Jungle Japes, and there's a seemingly-large [[Zinger]] in the same hive the large purple Klaptrap is found. The only one that really should be split is the oversized Kosha (known by the wiki as "Giant Viking Kremling"), since it doesn't respawn and causes a unique effect across Crystal Caverns while it still exists. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:32, 9 September 2018 (EDT) | ||
::::::::::Something I want to add is that, even though this article's creation predates [[MarioWiki:Proposals/ | ::::::::::Something I want to add is that, even though this article's creation predates [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_18#Split_the_colored_enemies|those]] [[Talk:Koopa_Troopa#Split_Red_Koopa_Troopa_and_Green_Koopa_Troopa|proposals]], it was under the conjectural "Big Klaptrap" title, so it technically broke the initial color proposal when it was moved to Purple Klaptrap instead of merged to Klaptrap. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 15:16, 22 September 2018 (EDT) | ||
:::::::::::I know that, but it was flawed even then, as small-sized purple Klaptraps exist in the game, and large green ones can be seen in a cutscene. Either way, someone still needs to contact Greg Mayles about this game's enemies at some point, as this old PRIMA guide is very clearly beyond flawed. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:36, 22 September 2018 (EDT) | :::::::::::I know that, but it was flawed even then, as small-sized purple Klaptraps exist in the game, and large green ones can be seen in a cutscene. Either way, someone still needs to contact Greg Mayles about this game's enemies at some point, as this old PRIMA guide is very clearly beyond flawed. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 17:36, 22 September 2018 (EDT) | ||
