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==Split Purple Coin from ''Super Mario Run'' and Purple Coin from ''Super Mario Galaxy''==
==Split Purple Coin from ''Super Mario Run'' and Purple Coin from ''Super Mario Galaxy''==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|failed|3-11|don't split}}
Just because both coins are purple doesn't make them the same item. One acts like a collectible, while the other is a mandatory part of the level. They don't even have the same design. I'm pretty sure the developers of ''Super Mario Run'' just picked three random colors for their bonus coins; they weren't trying to reference ''Galaxy'' in any way.
Just because both coins are purple doesn't make them the same item. One acts like a collectible, while the other is a mandatory part of the level. They don't even have the same design. I'm pretty sure the developers of ''Super Mario Run'' just picked three random colors for their bonus coins; they weren't trying to reference ''Galaxy'' in any way.


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#{{User|Andymii}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Andymii}} Per proposal.
#{{User|3D Player 2010}} While I think that we use some degree of limiting to when we split colored coin articles, I think that the coins from Super Mario Run function way too differently from any colored coins in other games to warrant shared articles.
#{{User|3D Player 2010}} While I think that we use some degree of limiting to when we split colored coin articles, I think that the coins from Super Mario Run function way too differently from any colored coins in other games to warrant shared articles.
#{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} Even though two items may have the same name, one functions differently than the other. One is required to beat the level, while the other is optional. Not to mention the designs are different too. It's kind of like the Coin Rings from ''Super Mario 3D World.'' Per 3D Player 2010.
#{{User|Alex95}} Per all
#{{User|Alex95}} Per all
<s>#{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} Even though two items may have the same name, one functions differently than the other. One is required to beat the level, while the other is optional. Not to mention the designs are different too. It's kind of like the Coin Rings from ''Super Mario 3D World.'' Per 3D Player 2010.</s>


====Oppose====
====Oppose====
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#{{user|Wildgoosespeeder}} No confusion. No split. I hate topics that split off like [[Green Star]] once did with [[Green Star (Super Mario 3D World)]]. Awkward to type. There has to be a fundamental difference between the items that have the same name, like [[Gold Ring]] and [[Gold Ring (New Super Mario Bros. 2)]].
#{{user|Wildgoosespeeder}} No confusion. No split. I hate topics that split off like [[Green Star]] once did with [[Green Star (Super Mario 3D World)]]. Awkward to type. There has to be a fundamental difference between the items that have the same name, like [[Gold Ring]] and [[Gold Ring (New Super Mario Bros. 2)]].
#{{user|Shokora}} &ndash; Per all.
#{{user|Shokora}} &ndash; Per all.
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per all, especially [[User:Mario jc|Mario jc]].
#{{user|A51 Trooper}} &ndash; Per all.
#{{User|Luigi 64DD}} Per Baby Luigi and Mario jc.
#{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} Initially I supported this proposal, as you can see from that strikethrough at the top of the page. Now, I'm opposing it. Why? Well, the purple coins in Super Mario Run and Super Mario Galaxy are both collectibles and they're required to get 100%, while the '''''pink''''' coins in Super Mario Maker are used for a key, like the Super Mario 3D World Key Coins and the ones in Super Mario Run are used as a major collectible. Using the pink and purple example again, the pink coins have different designs between the two games and the purple coin designs are almost identical between the two, except Super Mario Run has eyes on it. In other words, per all.
#{{User|Marioguy}} Per all.


====Comments====
====Comments====
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:::Additionally, this article has a little something about Purple Coins in ''Super Mario World''. Are we going to say that they should be removed so we don't want readers to think that the Galaxy incarnation is a nod to a pre-release element from an SNES game? {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:18, 19 December 2016 (EST)
:::Additionally, this article has a little something about Purple Coins in ''Super Mario World''. Are we going to say that they should be removed so we don't want readers to think that the Galaxy incarnation is a nod to a pre-release element from an SNES game? {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:18, 19 December 2016 (EST)
::::In my opinion, I don't think the ''Super Mario World'' sentence makes much sense in the article, but I'm not as worried because its a trivia (we should make it clear they aren't the same kind of coin by calling the Super Mario World coin "a purple colored-coin," or something similar). Canon-wise, Blue Spaces are clearly meant to be the same thing in each game, so that deserves its own article. But the developers almost certainly did not intend these two types of Purple Coins to be the same, so nor should we. (The same applies to [[Blue Shell]], [[Blue Coin]], etc.) --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 17:27, 19 December 2016 (EST)
::::In my opinion, I don't think the ''Super Mario World'' sentence makes much sense in the article, but I'm not as worried because its a trivia (we should make it clear they aren't the same kind of coin by calling the Super Mario World coin "a purple colored-coin," or something similar). Canon-wise, Blue Spaces are clearly meant to be the same thing in each game, so that deserves its own article. But the developers almost certainly did not intend these two types of Purple Coins to be the same, so nor should we. (The same applies to [[Blue Shell]], [[Blue Coin]], etc.) --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 17:27, 19 December 2016 (EST)
:::::Perhaps so, but your second argument isn't as great since ''[[MarioWiki:Canoncity|there is no canon in the Mario series]]'' and the article has ''New Super Mario Bros.'' information mixed with ''Mario Party''. I'm sure the developers didn't intend the coins to be a reference from a past game, but that's not my point. My point is that we don't need to split similar elements based on function (much less mass split those articles I've mentioned), especially when it's based on the flimsy idea that they need to be kept separate from their past appearances. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 14:41, 25 December 2016 (EST)
@Mario jc Sure, the Pink Coins in ''Super Mario Run'' and ''Super Mario Maker'' have a different design and act differently. That's a good reason to split the two of them. But why not the '''''Purple''''' Coins? They have a different design and they act differently, like the Pink Coins and the Coin Rings from SM64, 3D Land and 3D World. I'm curious to find out more... Sorry if I sounded like I didn't make any sense. &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy9|Owencrazyboy9]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy9|talk]]) 21:29, 19 December 2016 (EST)
@Mario jc Sure, the Pink Coins in ''Super Mario Run'' and ''Super Mario Maker'' have a different design and act differently. That's a good reason to split the two of them. But why not the '''''Purple''''' Coins? They have a different design and they act differently, like the Pink Coins and the Coin Rings from SM64, 3D Land and 3D World. I'm curious to find out more... Sorry if I sounded like I didn't make any sense. &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy9|Owencrazyboy9]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy9|talk]]) 21:29, 19 December 2016 (EST)
:SMM's [[Pink Coin]] seems more like its own kind of coin that they named "Pink Coin" (even though it looks more red than pink), rather than an aptly named generic Pink Coin that encompasses all pink-coloured Coins; whereas [[Purple Coin]] is more like the latter. At least that's how I see it. Also, both Purple Coins have stars on them (except SMR's ones have eyes), so their designs are really not that different. {{user:Mario jc/sig}} 00:26, 20 December 2016 (EST)
:SMM's [[Pink Coin]] seems more like its own kind of coin that they named "Pink Coin" (even though it looks more red than pink), rather than an aptly named generic Pink Coin that encompasses all pink-coloured Coins; whereas [[Purple Coin]] is more like the latter. At least that's how I see it. Also, both Purple Coins have stars on them (except SMR's ones have eyes), so their designs are really not that different. {{user:Mario jc/sig}} 00:26, 20 December 2016 (EST)
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:::::The individual color coins are different from each other so that they should not all be under Challenge Coin and Super Mario Run but nowhere else. (I am not talking about Super Mario Run's being different enough to be separate from Super Mario Galaxy's in the statement.) {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 00:12, 20 December 2016 (EST)
:::::The individual color coins are different from each other so that they should not all be under Challenge Coin and Super Mario Run but nowhere else. (I am not talking about Super Mario Run's being different enough to be separate from Super Mario Galaxy's in the statement.) {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 00:12, 20 December 2016 (EST)
::::::From what I'm understanding, you're saying that the individual challenge coins each deserve their own article. In fact, you just said verbatim that the purple coins from ''Super Mario Run'' are different enough to be split from the purple coins in ''Super Mario Galaxy.'' From this I gather you should be supporting this proposal??? Why exactly do you oppose? Your argument on 2D/3D mechanics isn't making much sense to me. --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 00:17, 20 December 2016 (EST)
::::::From what I'm understanding, you're saying that the individual challenge coins each deserve their own article. In fact, you just said verbatim that the purple coins from ''Super Mario Run'' are different enough to be split from the purple coins in ''Super Mario Galaxy.'' From this I gather you should be supporting this proposal??? Why exactly do you oppose? Your argument on 2D/3D mechanics isn't making much sense to me. --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 00:17, 20 December 2016 (EST)
:::::::First, I wasn't even talking to you about the difference between the Challenge Coins in the first place. Second, even though the purple coin is different from the pink and black coins but not different from Super Mario Galaxy's. Third, I may refer to them as two separate things, but that doesn't they are separate things. I am referring them as two separate things because of the proposal. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 12:45, 20 December 2016 (EST)


@Wildgoosespeeder: There ''is'' a major fundamental difference between Purple Coins in SMG and Purple Coins in ''Super Mario Run'' – one is a Challenge Coin, and one is a Galaxy item. The only similarity is that they are both technically coins that are colored purple, but as I said before, nickels are not dimes just because they are the same color. The fact that splitting will make it harder to type shouldn't be a reason to split. --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 00:36, 20 December 2016 (EST)
@Wildgoosespeeder: There ''is'' a major fundamental difference between Purple Coins in SMG and Purple Coins in ''Super Mario Run'' – one is a Challenge Coin, and one is a Galaxy item. The only similarity is that they are both technically coins that are colored purple, but as I said before, nickels are not dimes just because they are the same color. The fact that splitting will make it harder to type shouldn't be a reason to split. --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 00:36, 20 December 2016 (EST)
==Color Problems==
When I play ''Super Mario Run'' on my iPad, Purple Coins look like Blue Coins to me. The function of the coins are the same, but the color-it looks more Blue than Purple. What could be causing this problem? [[User:Mari0fan100|Mari0fan100]] ([[User talk:Mari0fan100|talk]]) 21:08, 16 January 2019 (EST)

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