Editing Talk:Purple Coin

Is this even official? {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}
:Yes it is. check out the levels on every galaxy. {{Unsigned|Mariofanical}}


There are also purple coins in Super Mario World. When you hit a P-Switch, they don't transform.

==How?==
How is the Purple Coin theme a remix of the Gusty Garden Galaxy theme? - [[User:Billtn|Bill-tendo]] 22:20, 30 January 2012 (EST)

If you listen, you can hear that the 1st section is repeated, there is a quiet interlude, and the 3rd section is clearly heard in the Gusty Garden theme.


==Possible Reference==

You know how the purple coins have stars on them like in SM64? I think this could be a possible reference to the fact that if you get 100 coins in SM64, you get a star, because you need 100 purple coins for a star. Maybe we should add this to trivia?    [[User:EmperorLuigi115]]

I'll leave this open for someone to reply, but if nobody replies in 13 days, I'll make the change. Feel free to reply saying you want me to do it instantly. [[User:EmperorLuigi115]][[File:WiiU NewMarioU 3 char03 E3.png|35px]][[File:GoldFlower.png|35px]][[File:3DS NewMario2 2 char01 E3.png|35px]][[File:LMDMart5.png |35px]]

It could be a combination of Red and Blue coins missions, because you got a time limit for Red Coins and Blue Coins are hidden. [[User:Kayak254]]

== ''Mario Hoops 3-on-3'' information ==

I noticed there's a section in the history section about ''Mario Hoops 3-on-3''. I legitimately cannot see how the linked article correlate to the topic of this article other than "it's a coin that's purple". The section is also extremely badly written. I haven't played the game, so I can't actually judge this very well. If somebody, preferably somebody who has played the game, could inform me whether it should stay or not, then that would be helpful. In fact, if you leave a message here explaining why they shouldn't be here, then you're free to remove the information yourself. {{User:RandomYoshi/sig}} 10:49, 15 December 2015 (EST)
:From what I have remembered, purple coins are used to make the slot turn in [[Jr. Street]]. You can get those like the coins from Hoops 3-on-3; you dribble on a ? Panel with a possibility to get one. Once you score a point, if you have a purple coin, you operate a slot, which can increase your score. Honestly, splitting this article off because it operates differently doesn't sit all well with me; with that logic, the coins from Super Mario 64 need to get split from their incarnation in 2D games as they are used for healing yourself rather than points. Same deal with blue coins and red coins. So I think the opening sentence needs to be rephrased to accommodate the purple coin's appearance in a different game. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 22:59, 17 December 2015 (EST)
::Well scratch what I said. They have their own official name called the "Slot Coin". So I say we can delete that section and add a "This article is about" thingabob in the top of the page. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:03, 17 December 2015 (EST)
:::That solved the problem aptly. {{User:RandomYoshi/sig}} 05:24, 18 December 2015 (EST)

==Split Purple Coin from ''Super Mario Run'' and Purple Coin from ''Super Mario Galaxy''==
{{TPP}}
Just because both coins are purple doesn't make them the same item. One acts like a collectible, while the other is a mandatory part of the level. They don't even have the same design. I'm pretty sure the developers of ''Super Mario Run'' just picked three random colors for their bonus coins; they weren't trying to reference ''Galaxy'' in any way.

'''Proposer''': {{User|Andymii}}<br>
'''Deadline''': January 2, 2017, 23:59 GMT

====Support====
#{{User|Andymii}} Per proposal.
#{{User|3D Player 2010}} While I think that we use some degree of limiting to when we split colored coin articles, I think that the coins from Super Mario Run function way too differently from any colored coins in other games to warrant shared articles.
#{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} Even though two items may have the same item, one functions differently than the other. One is required to beat the level, while the other is optional. Per 3D Player 2010.
#{{User|Alex95}} Per all

====Oppose====
#{{User|Yoshi the Space Station Manager}} 3D games have different mechanics from the 2D games, even in the same series. This is no exception.
#{{User|LudwigVon}} I’m against this split. Sometimes, Coins haves different appearances in the games they appear in. If we split this, because of the different design we would need to make an article for each different design they have. If we split this because of the different mechanic, we would need to make an article for each different usage of coins. Too much general to give them plenty of different articles.
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} I feel this article would function better when all mechanics are merged into one article like, you know, how the rest of the coins operate. [[Yellow Coin]], [[Blue Coin]], and [[Red Coins]] all have different mechanics in the different games they appear in. Red Coins for example, serve as collectibles in [[Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]], serve as a different type of collectible in [[Super Mario Bros. Deluxe|Super Mario Bros. DMX]], serve as collectibles for obtaining special items after Red Rings are touched in the New Super Mario Bros. series, and operate the slot machine in [[Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon]]''. And that's talking about only Red Coins. Blue Coins operate very differently than they do in [[Super Mario 64]], [[Super Mario Sunshine]], [[Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games]], and [[Mario Pinball Land]]. Yellow Coins serve as points, health points, and currency. I think splitting this article because it functions slightly differently (still as a collectible item, so not that much differently) opens up doorways for all the other colored coins splitting off because they function very differently from each other. I think this article is better suited as a catch-all article for all purple coins unless purple coins function radically differently and you can argue that they do not.

====Comments====
I'm iffy on this. Should we split the ''Yoshi's Island'' and ''Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon'' incarnations of [[Red Coin]] even though they look different and have a different functions? {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 16:24, 19 December 2016 (EST)

In my opinion, yes. Like I said, in this case I'm pretty sure the developers weren't thinking of bringing back a SMG item. Their similarities are coincidental; there is no evidence to show that they are meant to be the same. Nickels are not quarters just because they are the same color. --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 16:29, 19 December 2016 (EST)
:It's not that, but why can't this page just be a page about Purple-colored coins just as how [[Red Coin]]s are about red-colored coins, [[Blue Coin]]s are blue-colored coins? The very general idea, exceptions likely apply. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:00, 19 December 2016 (EST)
::Are we really doing things that way? I'm not very comfortable grouping unrelated items together just because they look the same, especially when they have completely different functionalities. Pages need a concise topic; we can't just have pages that are a compilation of vaguely similar objects. See [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Bubble&type=revision&diff=1763611&oldid=1753998 this link] for a good example of what I mean. --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 17:08, 19 December 2016 (EST)
:::Bubble is a generic subject, not like the example I listed here, so those have a different level of what we can or can't allow on. Anyhow, what about [[Green Star]] (bear with me, I opposed merging that one...), [[Blue Coin]], [[Blue Shell]], [[Green Banana]], [[Green Fireball]], and [[Blue Space]]? Pages on nongeneric objects like these don't have a concise topic either. I know these Purple Coins have a different appearance, but so do the aforementioned Blue Coins and Red Coins, and those things I listed all have different functions throughout different games. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:16, 19 December 2016 (EST)
:::Additionally, this article has a little something about Purple Coins in ''Super Mario World''. Are we going to say that they should be removed so we don't want readers to think that the Galaxy incarnation is a nod to a pre-release element from an SNES game? {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:18, 19 December 2016 (EST)
::::In my opinion, I don't think the ''Super Mario World'' sentence makes much sense in the article, but I'm not as worried because its a trivia (we should make it clear they aren't the same kind of coin by calling the Super Mario World coin "a purple colored-coin," or something similar). Canon-wise, Blue Spaces are clearly meant to be the same thing in each game, so that deserves its own article. But the developers almost certainly did not intend these two types of Purple Coins to be the same, so nor should we. (The same applies to [[Blue Shell]], [[Blue Coin]], etc.) --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 17:27, 19 December 2016 (EST)
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 ==Split Purple Coin from ''Super Mario Run'' and Purple Coin from ''Super Mario Galaxy''==
-{{Settled TPP}}
+{{TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|failed|3-11|don't split}}
 Just because both coins are purple doesn't make them the same item. One acts like a collectible, while the other is a mandatory part of the level. They don't even have the same design. I'm pretty sure the developers of ''Super Mario Run'' just picked three random colors for their bonus coins; they weren't trying to reference ''Galaxy'' in any way.
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 #{{User|Andymii}} Per proposal.
 #{{User|3D Player 2010}} While I think that we use some degree of limiting to when we split colored coin articles, I think that the coins from Super Mario Run function way too differently from any colored coins in other games to warrant shared articles.
+#{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} Even though two items may have the same item, one functions differently than the other. One is required to beat the level, while the other is optional. Per 3D Player 2010.
 #{{User|Alex95}} Per all
-<s>#{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} Even though two items may have the same name, one functions differently than the other. One is required to beat the level, while the other is optional. Not to mention the designs are different too. It's kind of like the Coin Rings from ''Super Mario 3D World.'' Per 3D Player 2010.</s>
 ====Oppose====
 #{{User|Yoshi the Space Station Manager}} 3D games have different mechanics from the 2D games, even in the same series. This is no exception.
 #{{User|LudwigVon}} I’m against this split. Sometimes, Coins haves different appearances in the games they appear in. If we split this, because of the different design we would need to make an article for each different design they have. If we split this because of the different mechanic, we would need to make an article for each different usage of coins. Too much general to give them plenty of different articles.
-#{{User|Baby Luigi}} I feel this article would function better when all mechanics are merged into one article like, you know, how the rest of the coins operate. [[Yellow Coin]], [[Blue Coin]], and [[Red Coins]] all have different mechanics in the different games they appear in. Red Coins for example, serve as collectibles in [[Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]], serve as a different type of collectible in [[Super Mario Bros. Deluxe|Super Mario Bros. DMX]], serve as collectibles for obtaining special items after Red Rings are touched in the New Super Mario Bros. series, and operate the slot machine in [[Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon]]. And that's talking about only Red Coins. Blue Coins operate very differently than they do in [[Super Mario 64]], [[Super Mario Sunshine]], [[Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games]], and [[Mario Pinball Land]]. Yellow Coins serve as points, health points, and currency. I think splitting this article because it functions slightly differently (still as a collectible item, so not that much differently) opens up doorways for all the other colored coins splitting off because they function very differently from each other. I think this article is better suited as a catch-all article for all purple coins unless purple coins function radically differently and you can argue that they do not.
+#{{User|Baby Luigi}} I feel this article would function better when all mechanics are merged into one article like, you know, how the rest of the coins operate. [[Yellow Coin]], [[Blue Coin]], and [[Red Coins]] all have different mechanics in the different games they appear in. Red Coins for example, serve as collectibles in [[Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island]], serve as a different type of collectible in [[Super Mario Bros. Deluxe|Super Mario Bros. DMX]], serve as collectibles for obtaining special items after Red Rings are touched in the New Super Mario Bros. series, and operate the slot machine in [[Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon]]''. And that's talking about only Red Coins. Blue Coins operate very differently than they do in [[Super Mario 64]], [[Super Mario Sunshine]], [[Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games]], and [[Mario Pinball Land]]. Yellow Coins serve as points, health points, and currency. I think splitting this article because it functions slightly differently (still as a collectible item, so not that much differently) opens up doorways for all the other colored coins splitting off because they function very differently from each other. I think this article is better suited as a catch-all article for all purple coins unless purple coins function radically differently and you can argue that they do not.
-#{{user|Mario jc}} Per LudwigVon and Baby Luigi. If anything, the ''Pink'' Coins from Mario Run should be separate from the [[Pink Coin]]s from Mario Maker.
-#{{user|Wildgoosespeeder}} No confusion. No split. I hate topics that split off like [[Green Star]] once did with [[Green Star (Super Mario 3D World)]]. Awkward to type. There has to be a fundamental difference between the items that have the same name, like [[Gold Ring]] and [[Gold Ring (New Super Mario Bros. 2)]].
-#{{user|Shokora}} &ndash; Per all.
-#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per all, especially [[User:Mario jc|Mario jc]].
-#{{user|A51 Trooper}} &ndash; Per all.
-#{{User|Luigi 64DD}} Per Baby Luigi and Mario jc.
-#{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} Initially I supported this proposal, as you can see from that strikethrough at the top of the page. Now, I'm opposing it. Why? Well, the purple coins in Super Mario Run and Super Mario Galaxy are both collectibles and they're required to get 100%, while the '''''pink''''' coins in Super Mario Maker are used for a key, like the Super Mario 3D World Key Coins and the ones in Super Mario Run are used as a major collectible. Using the pink and purple example again, the pink coins have different designs between the two games and the purple coin designs are almost identical between the two, except Super Mario Run has eyes on it. In other words, per all.
-#{{User|Marioguy}} Per all.
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 :::Additionally, this article has a little something about Purple Coins in ''Super Mario World''. Are we going to say that they should be removed so we don't want readers to think that the Galaxy incarnation is a nod to a pre-release element from an SNES game? {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:18, 19 December 2016 (EST)
 ::::In my opinion, I don't think the ''Super Mario World'' sentence makes much sense in the article, but I'm not as worried because its a trivia (we should make it clear they aren't the same kind of coin by calling the Super Mario World coin "a purple colored-coin," or something similar). Canon-wise, Blue Spaces are clearly meant to be the same thing in each game, so that deserves its own article. But the developers almost certainly did not intend these two types of Purple Coins to be the same, so nor should we. (The same applies to [[Blue Shell]], [[Blue Coin]], etc.) --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 17:27, 19 December 2016 (EST)
-:::::Perhaps so, but your second argument isn't as great since ''[[MarioWiki:Canoncity|there is no canon in the Mario series]]'' and the article has ''New Super Mario Bros.'' information mixed with ''Mario Party''. I'm sure the developers didn't intend the coins to be a reference from a past game, but that's not my point. My point is that we don't need to split similar elements based on function (much less mass split those articles I've mentioned), especially when it's based on the flimsy idea that they need to be kept separate from their past appearances. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 14:41, 25 December 2016 (EST)
-@Mario jc Sure, the Pink Coins in ''Super Mario Run'' and ''Super Mario Maker'' have a different design and act differently. That's a good reason to split the two of them. But why not the '''''Purple''''' Coins? They have a different design and they act differently, like the Pink Coins and the Coin Rings from SM64, 3D Land and 3D World. I'm curious to find out more... Sorry if I sounded like I didn't make any sense. &ndash; [[User:Owencrazyboy9|Owencrazyboy9]] ([[User talk:Owencrazyboy9|talk]]) 21:29, 19 December 2016 (EST)
-:SMM's [[Pink Coin]] seems more like its own kind of coin that they named "Pink Coin" (even though it looks more red than pink), rather than an aptly named generic Pink Coin that encompasses all pink-coloured Coins; whereas [[Purple Coin]] is more like the latter. At least that's how I see it. Also, both Purple Coins have stars on them (except SMR's ones have eyes), so their designs are really not that different. {{user:Mario jc/sig}} 00:26, 20 December 2016 (EST)
-::::That's completely coincidental. ''All'' the Challenge Coins have a star with eyes on it. Also, how is a Purple Coin from ''Super Mario Galaxy'' similar to a Purple Coin from ''Super Mario Run''? --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 00:32, 20 December 2016 (EST)
-Why not just use the [[Challenge Coin]] article as an article for Super Mario Run information? {{User:3D Player 2010/sig}} 22:30, 19 December 2016 (EST)
-:They are clearly different coins. They are in different positions. I even notice changes in the levels, and this is just the first world. (A GameXplain video showcases this.) {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 22:50, 19 December 2016 (EST)
-::If you agree that they are different coins, then what's your reason for not supporting this proposal? --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 22:59, 19 December 2016 (EST)
-:::I am talking about the game, not what this proposal is asking. I should of said, they are clearly different from each other. I guess I thought that they would put 1 and 1 together to make 1 and make 1 not 2 like the regular calculation. (Note that I have high math skills.) {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 23:04, 19 December 2016 (EST)
-::::I don't understand what you're trying to say... could you state it less confusingly? --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 00:07, 20 December 2016 (EST)
-:::::The individual color coins are different from each other so that they should not all be under Challenge Coin and Super Mario Run but nowhere else. (I am not talking about Super Mario Run's being different enough to be separate from Super Mario Galaxy's in the statement.) {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 00:12, 20 December 2016 (EST)
-::::::From what I'm understanding, you're saying that the individual challenge coins each deserve their own article. In fact, you just said verbatim that the purple coins from ''Super Mario Run'' are different enough to be split from the purple coins in ''Super Mario Galaxy.'' From this I gather you should be supporting this proposal??? Why exactly do you oppose? Your argument on 2D/3D mechanics isn't making much sense to me. --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 00:17, 20 December 2016 (EST)
-:::::::First, I wasn't even talking to you about the difference between the Challenge Coins in the first place. Second, even though the purple coin is different from the pink and black coins but not different from Super Mario Galaxy's. Third, I may refer to them as two separate things, but that doesn't they are separate things. I am referring them as two separate things because of the proposal. {{User:Yoshi the Space Station Manager/sig}} 12:45, 20 December 2016 (EST)
-@Wildgoosespeeder: There ''is'' a major fundamental difference between Purple Coins in SMG and Purple Coins in ''Super Mario Run'' – one is a Challenge Coin, and one is a Galaxy item. The only similarity is that they are both technically coins that are colored purple, but as I said before, nickels are not dimes just because they are the same color. The fact that splitting will make it harder to type shouldn't be a reason to split. --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 00:36, 20 December 2016 (EST)
-==Color Problems==
-When I play ''Super Mario Run'' on my iPad, Purple Coins look like Blue Coins to me. The function of the coins are the same, but the color-it looks more Blue than Purple. What could be causing this problem? [[User:Mari0fan100|Mari0fan100]] ([[User talk:Mari0fan100|talk]]) 21:08, 16 January 2019 (EST)