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So, in the original SMB manual, pipes are described as pots, ''actual'' Piranha Plants in pots appear as enemies in SML2, and many of the appearances here seem a tad generic in conception. If [[Mario Kart: Double Dash!!|Chain Chomp]] and [[Mario Kart DS|Bullet Bill]] can be an enemy and an item at the same time, so can Piranha Plant. At the very least, maybe merge everything that doesn't have the distinct JP name associated with it. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:46, March 14, 2020 (EDT) | So, in the original SMB manual, pipes are described as pots, ''actual'' Piranha Plants in pots appear as enemies in SML2, and many of the appearances here seem a tad generic in conception. If [[Mario Kart: Double Dash!!|Chain Chomp]] and [[Mario Kart DS|Bullet Bill]] can be an enemy and an item at the same time, so can Piranha Plant. At the very least, maybe merge everything that doesn't have the distinct JP name associated with it. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 13:46, March 14, 2020 (EDT) | ||
:Yeah, I agree with at least a partial merge. Piranha Plants basically behave the same whether they're in a pot, a pipe, or just planted in the ground. At the very least I'd like to see the generic instances of potted Piranha Plants merged (Super Show, Mario Party, Rabbids, Smash, Tennis Aces) and leave this page as being only for its context as an item, although a full merge would be fine too. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:51, March 14, 2020 (EDT) | :Yeah, I agree with at least a partial merge. Piranha Plants basically behave the same whether they're in a pot, a pipe, or just planted in the ground. At the very least I'd like to see the generic instances of potted Piranha Plants merged (Super Show, Mario Party, Rabbids, Smash, Tennis Aces) and leave this page as being only for its context as an item, although a full merge would be fine too. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 13:51, March 14, 2020 (EDT) | ||
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To be blunt, this page in its current state is bad. While it was originally created to cover the item from 3D World, as often happens it ended up being a page covering every generic instance of a Piranha Plant appearing in a pot. An article for that purpose doesn't need to exist, as Piranha Plants behave effectively the same whether they're in a pipe, a pot, or just planted in the ground, and if unchained Chain Chomps are on the way out, we don't need to keep this and it should be merged with Piranha Plant entirely, with the exception of its appearance in Mario Tennis Aces which would be merged to Fire Piranha Plant instead. Alternatively, we trim this article down to only cover potted Piranha Plants as an item, leaving only 3D World, the Mario Kart series, and Treasure Tracker. While this isn't entirely consistent with how we treat other enemies-turned-items such as Bullet Bill, Chain Chomp, and Boo, it would return this article to its original intended state and make it more useful than a generic catch-all. I'm personally fine with either option, as long as something is done. | To be blunt, this page in its current state is bad. While it was originally created to cover the item from 3D World, as often happens it ended up being a page covering every generic instance of a Piranha Plant appearing in a pot. An article for that purpose doesn't need to exist, as Piranha Plants behave effectively the same whether they're in a pipe, a pot, or just planted in the ground, and if unchained Chain Chomps are on the way out, we don't need to keep this and it should be merged with Piranha Plant entirely, with the exception of its appearance in Mario Tennis Aces which would be merged to Fire Piranha Plant instead. Alternatively, we trim this article down to only cover potted Piranha Plants as an item, leaving only 3D World, the Mario Kart series, and Treasure Tracker. While this isn't entirely consistent with how we treat other enemies-turned-items such as Bullet Bill, Chain Chomp, and Boo, it would return this article to its original intended state and make it more useful than a generic catch-all. I'm personally fine with either option, as long as something is done. | ||
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#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} If "this isn't entirely consistent with how we treat other enemies-turned-items", then I don't believe it needs to be an exception. Yes, there is a unique Japanese name for ''Super Mario 3D World'', but I think that's more the result of the game's guide authors differentiating from its role as an enemy: in the ''Mario Kart'' series appearance, it's [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HljJvwifETg&t=1m18s Packun Flower], which may suggest that it's a one-off. There's already a fair bit of overlap if the rest of the info on the page is any indication, and as explained, a Piranha Plant is still a Piranha Plant regardless of where it grows | #{{User|LinkTheLefty}} If "this isn't entirely consistent with how we treat other enemies-turned-items", then I don't believe it needs to be an exception. Yes, there is a unique Japanese name for ''Super Mario 3D World'', but I think that's more the result of the game's guide authors differentiating from its role as an enemy: in the ''Mario Kart'' series appearance, it's [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HljJvwifETg&t=1m18s Packun Flower], which may suggest that it's a one-off. There's already a fair bit of overlap if the rest of the info on the page is any indication, and as explained, a Piranha Plant is still a Piranha Plant regardless of where it grows. | ||
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#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per all. | #{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per all. | ||
#{{User|bwburke94}} Per all. | #{{User|bwburke94}} Per all. | ||
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Another thing that is important to note is that it looks like an earlier MKAGP game had a ''pink'' potted Piranha as an item, though I do not know the exact context of it. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:59, April 3, 2020 (EDT) | Another thing that is important to note is that it looks like an earlier MKAGP game had a ''pink'' potted Piranha as an item, though I do not know the exact context of it. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:59, April 3, 2020 (EDT) | ||
:<s>If you're talking about GP DX, I noticed and it would stay here unless we find out it's not an item. For now, I'm assuming it is one.</s> [[Piranha_Plant#Mario_Kart_Arcade_GP_subseries|Yep, it's an item]]. Not quite the same function as Mario Kart 8, but close enough that I think it can be moved here. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 17:40, April 3, 2020 (EDT) | :<s>If you're talking about GP DX, I noticed and it would stay here unless we find out it's not an item. For now, I'm assuming it is one.</s> [[Piranha_Plant#Mario_Kart_Arcade_GP_subseries|Yep, it's an item]]. Not quite the same function as Mario Kart 8, but close enough that I think it can be moved here. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 17:40, April 3, 2020 (EDT) | ||
