Editing Talk:Poison fog

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The Pokemon Trainer highly resembles Ash, I know he wasn't the Pokemon trainer, but I thought it was a necessary Redirect in case Ash was mistaken as the trainer.

{{User:The real yoshi/sig}}
:Highly resembles? I'm sorry, but I don't see much of a resemblance, aside from the standard traits shared by most Pokemon protagonists. [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] 13:04, 20 May 2012 (EDT)

ALL my friends took him for Ash so I see this as necessary. Otherwise, I'd scold all the few (but there aren't only a few) that take him as Ash.

{{User:The real yoshi/sig}}
:I could see someone getting confused and thinking it was Ash but I don't think very many people would. {{User|Raven Effect}}
::The hair color is different, the eye color is different, and both the style and color of clothing are different. This isn't Ash. Therefore, there's no reason to have a redirect to the trainer called such. {{User:Mario4Ever/sig}}

Hey, could I start a proposal? To keep or to not?

{{User:The real yoshi/sig}}
:Go ahead. [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] 16:38, 20 May 2012 (EDT)

===Keep or Delete Ash===
{{TPP}}

There is a disagreement between whether to keep Ash as a redirect to the Pokemon or to not.

'''Proposer''': {{User|The real yoshi}}<br>
'''Deadline''': June 3, 2012 23:59 GMT

====Keep====
#{{User|The real yoshi}} I think Ash looks close enough to the Pokemon Trainer to be a necessary redirect. I want to keep it because of the resemblance to Ash that the Pokemon trainer has to Ash and the fact all my friends thought he was Ash.  
#{{User|Super Spike}} Ash looks almost like the Pokemon Trainer so it should be a redirect.

====Delete====
#{{User|Raven Effect}} They aren't similar at all now that I think about it other then being pokemon trainers.
#{{User|GreenDisaster}} There are few points of resemblance between Ash and Red.
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per my comment above.
#{{User|Humbug}} Although Ash may look kind of similar to Pokémon Trainer, they're separate people. Per M4E.
#{{User|Commander Code-8}} The pokemon trainer is never referred to as Ash in Brawl at all.
#{{User|Darth Vader}} Per GreenDisaster
#{{User|LeftyGreenMario}} Per all, and people usually don't go to MarioWiki to search for Ash Ketchum anyway.
#{{User|Tails777}} Ash doesn't even appear in the Mario series. Per all.
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Per all.

====Comments==== 
This is not how you properly format a proposal. All the coding is on the main proposals page. Also, add <nowiki>{{TPP}}</nowiki> to the top of your proposal. [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] 17:06, 20 May 2012 (EDT)
:It's not just adding the template. Under the rules section, there is the format that should be followed for a proposal. [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] 17:41, 20 May 2012 (EDT)
::And you also need a reason as to why you want to keep this article. [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] 20:12, 21 May 2012 (EDT)
:Commander, just because the Pokemon trainer isn't referred to as Ash I'm talking about the people who want to '''LEARN''' about [[SSBB]]; Not the ones who '''KNOW''' most about it. Plus, some people just take a quick look at the game. So, it doesn't matter whether the Trainer is referred as Ash or not, it matters more on who would mistake the Trainer for Ash, you see? {{User|The real yoshi}}
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 The Pokemon Trainer highly resembles Ash, I know he wasn't the Pokemon trainer, but I thought it was a necessary Redirect in case Ash was mistaken as the trainer.
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 ===Keep or Delete Ash===
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-{{Proposal outcome|failed|2-12|do not keep}}
 There is a disagreement between whether to keep Ash as a redirect to the Pokemon or to not.
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 #{{User|Tails777}} Ash doesn't even appear in the Mario series. Per all.
 #{{User|Walkazo}} - Per all.
-#{{User|Fawfulfury65}} It's speculation that the Pokemon Trainer is Ash.
-#{{User|MarioSmasher}} You can't confuse Ash Ketchum with Red. They're trainers, but they're not the same…
-#{{User|Vommack}}Per all.
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 ::And you also need a reason as to why you want to keep this article. [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] 20:12, 21 May 2012 (EDT)
 :Commander, just because the Pokemon trainer isn't referred to as Ash I'm talking about the people who want to '''LEARN''' about [[SSBB]]; Not the ones who '''KNOW''' most about it. Plus, some people just take a quick look at the game. So, it doesn't matter whether the Trainer is referred as Ash or not, it matters more on who would mistake the Trainer for Ash, you see? {{User|The real yoshi}}
-::But nobody will confuse the two because they are very few physical traits that both Red and Ash have. You don't even have to be a Pokemon fan to know that the character in SSBB is not Ash. [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] 21:03, 24 May 2012 (EDT)
-:'''NOBODY''' will confuse Ash and Red huh? I asked [[User:Luigi the Invincible|Luigi the Invincible]], (Yes, in person. He is my classmate.) and here is our conversation:
-(Note: I am ''Ryan'' Luigi is ''Hayden'')
-'''Ryan''':So Hayden, you know about the Pokemon Trainer in Brawl, right?
-'''Hayden''':You mean Ash?
-Never mind you're right GreenDisaster, '''Nodody''' will confuse the two. Too bad for me, nobody will. *cries* *cries* *cries*
-{{User|The real yoshi}}
-:Melodramatic, much? [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] 17:54, 3 June 2012 (EDT)
-:But, nobody will? That is a little strange considering that I just showed you how someone who did mistake them. If it was too obvious (quask to Yoshi) then you could say nobody will mistake them. I think you were just trying to make me give up.
-{{User|The real yoshi}}
-::Alright, what is about five people or so compared to the hundreds of people that come to the wiki? Just because the people you know didn't know, it doesn't mean everyone else won't know. Most of the other users agree with me on that, so don't dump it on me. Besides, the proposal is already over and the redirect has been deleted. [[User:GreenDisaster|GreenDisaster]] 20:23, 4 June 2012 (EDT)
-You'll never know.
-{{User|The real yoshi}}
-== Are Poison Fog and Ash Really the Same Thing? ==
-Should these two really be considered the same? First, they both have different names. Also, ash is something naturally created by a volcano, while the poison fog seems to be artificially generated by the tower. They're even different colors. They do behave similarly, though, and are both "toxic clouds." Are there enough differences to warrant a split, or should they be kept as is for now? [[File:DarkBowserBIS.png|35px]][[User:DarkBowser777|<span style="font-family:serif;color:darkblue">DarkBowser777</span>]]([[User talk:DarkBowser777|talk]])[[File:Dreamy Bowser idle.png|35px]] 14:27, August 25, 2022 (EDT)