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==Pink Fuzzy== | ==Pink Fuzzy== | ||
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It would definitely make sense to move this article to Pink Fuzzy. If the enemy was only used in two games and had different names in those games, then the newest game's name should be chosen for the article. It's the same case as with [[Green Fuzzy]]. {{User:VOIDTHIS/sig}} 2:35, 27 May 2018 (CEST) | It would definitely make sense to move this article to Pink Fuzzy. If the enemy was only used in two games and had different names in those games, then the newest game's name should be chosen for the article. It's the same case as with [[Green Fuzzy]]. {{User:VOIDTHIS/sig}} 2:35, 27 May 2018 (CEST) | ||
:Are they really the same species? If the only trait they have in common is color and that they are both derived from Fuzzies, I feel like we can split it. Flower Fuzzies are pretty clearly defined by their ability to drain, well, Flowers. [[Special:Contributions/208.95.51.107|208.95.51.107]] 01:06, 19 October 2018 (EDT) | :Are they really the same species? If the only trait they have in common is color and that they are both derived from Fuzzies, I feel like we can split it. Flower Fuzzies are pretty clearly defined by their ability to drain, well, Flowers. [[Special:Contributions/208.95.51.107|208.95.51.107]] 01:06, 19 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
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==Split Flower Fuzzy and Pink Fuzzy== | ==Split Flower Fuzzy and Pink Fuzzy== | ||
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The only reason why these enemies share a page is because the wiki assumed SPM's Pink Fuzzies were a rename, similar to what happened to [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive | The only reason why these enemies share a page is because the wiki assumed SPM's Pink Fuzzies were a rename, similar to what happened to [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 47#Merge Redundant Paper Mario Items|various items in the same game]]. To be fair, it makes sense: both enemies look identical, and since SPM doesn't have FP, it's logical that Flower Fuzzies would get a name change and lose their main gimmick. However, considering they also have different Japanese names, it seems more likely to me that this is simply a reused design (albeit probably as a callback to TTYD), but ''not'' the same enemy. At this point, the ''only'' thing these two Fuzzies have in common is their color, which doesn't make them the same thing (see [[Jungle Fuzzy]] and [[Gold Fuzzy]]). | ||
'''Proposer:''' {{User|Niiue}}<br> | '''Proposer:''' {{User|Niiue}}<br> | ||
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===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
#{{User|Niiue}} Per proposal. | #{{User|Niiue}} Per proposal. | ||
#{{User|Doc von Schmeltwick}} If they wanted a previous stronger Fuzzy, it's not like they didn't have [[Green Fuzzy|a stronger one that had gone through an English name change and never had anything to do with flowers]], as well as [[Gold Fuzzy|''another'' stronger one that also didn't have any sort of parasitic ability anyway]]. There would be literally no reason to use Flower Fuzzy specifically and then change its name due to the name being irrelevant when better alternatives existed. | |||
#{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per all. | #{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per all. | ||
#{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per all. | #{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per all. | ||
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#{{User|Alex95}} - Per proposal. | #{{User|Alex95}} - Per proposal. | ||
#{{User|Power Flotzo}} - Per all. | #{{User|Power Flotzo}} - Per all. | ||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
{{User|LinkTheLefty}} Graphically, [[:File:SPMPinkFuzzy.png|Pink Fuzzy]] looks exactly the same as [[:File:Pink Fuzzyball.png|Flower Fuzzy]], just with more standard, blackened outlines for the eyes and mouth (note that Gold Fuzzy has the same design difference between the [[:File:PMTTYD Gold Fuzzy Sprite.png|sprite]] and [[:File:PMTTYD Gold Fuzzy Artwork.png|artwork]], so for all intents and purposes, Flower Fuzzy and Pink Fuzzy are identical). There's really no need for the ''Super Paper Mario'' developers to use Gold Fuzzy (which was a boss instead of a regular enemy) because the Fuzzies' general parasitic sucking trait was removed by then and only came up in the first two ''Paper Mario'' games. That's why Flower Fuzzy necessitated renaming after its color like most Fuzzies: its old name specifically referred to an attack method which was also removed in gameplay. Additionally, Pink Fuzzy's filename (<tt>e_chorobon_f</tt>) is based on Flower Fuzzy's (<tt>c_chorobon_f</tt>), just with the first letter changed to reflect updated file structure. As for why they'd even bother turning Flower Fuzzy into Pink Fuzzy in the first place, my guess is there may have been an internal mandate to retroactively erase parasitic characteristics since it never existed elsewhere. | |||
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Addendum: This can also be considered a similar situation to Pokey Mummy and Poison Pokey, since they took what was essentially the same enemy and changed its name because it didn't make sense in the new context, effectively making a new replacement enemy. (Why they didn't do this with "Moon" Cleft in SPM is anyone's guess, coulda just named them Cleft....) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:47, March 1, 2020 (EST) | Addendum: This can also be considered a similar situation to Pokey Mummy and Poison Pokey, since they took what was essentially the same enemy and changed its name because it didn't make sense in the new context, effectively making a new replacement enemy. (Why they didn't do this with "Moon" Cleft in SPM is anyone's guess, coulda just named them Cleft....) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:47, March 1, 2020 (EST) | ||
