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==Split Super Mario World and Mario Clash enemies into separate articles== | ==Split Super Mario World and Mario Clash enemies into separate articles== | ||
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As if the Galoomba confusion wasn't enough, the "Winged Galoombas" in ''Mario Clash'' are not only referred to as [http://nintendoagemedia.com/elements_nocache/284D55D8-CF1D-7AA0-029539BC19DEF8C1.jpg "Para-Goombas"] in the manual, but are given another name in the Japanese version, [http://nintendoagemedia.com/elements_nocache/21B26D2A-CF1D-7AA0-05CBE115DD51AF9B.jpg "Sharp Winged Galoomba"]. Since the growth of spikes on their head would also be an indication that they're really another sub-species of Galoomba, that should be reflected with a split. On the other hand, if they're instead deemed one and the same, then naming policy dictates both articles would be called "Para-Goomba" (since manuals trump most other potential sources). | As if the Galoomba confusion wasn't enough, the "Winged Galoombas" in ''Mario Clash'' are not only referred to as [http://nintendoagemedia.com/elements_nocache/284D55D8-CF1D-7AA0-029539BC19DEF8C1.jpg "Para-Goombas"] in the manual, but are given another name in the Japanese version, [http://nintendoagemedia.com/elements_nocache/21B26D2A-CF1D-7AA0-05CBE115DD51AF9B.jpg "Sharp Winged Galoomba"]. Since the growth of spikes on their head would also be an indication that they're really another sub-species of Galoomba, that should be reflected with a split. On the other hand, if they're instead deemed one and the same, then naming policy dictates both articles would be called "Para-Goomba" (since manuals trump most other potential sources). | ||
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#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} Per proposal. | #{{User|LinkTheLefty}} Per proposal. | ||
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:If it weren't for the name stuff, I'd say just split it since it's clearly a different thing (I was already thinking of splitting it myself). Anyway, tbh, I kinda feel like the conjectural names would be better off not being used at all for ''any'' of these pages since it just adds another layer of confusion, and it's actually against policy: while "Winged Galoomba" and "Para-Galoomba" are extrapolated from plain "Galoomba", they're still conjectural, and shouldn't overrule the actual names. So then the pages would be "Winged Goomba (''Super Mario World'')", "Para-Goomba (''Super Mario World'')" and "Para-Goomba (''Mario Clash'')". After all, if we're using logic rather than canon for the names, the ''Mario Clash'' one would be something along the lines of "Sharp Winged Goomba" (like how a [[Spiky Parabuzzy]] is a [[Parabuzzy]] with a spike, but taking the Japanese name into account), and that's getting ''very'' conjectural and harder to defend beyond "but it makes sense". - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 13:10, 8 January 2015 (EST) | :If it weren't for the name stuff, I'd say just split it since it's clearly a different thing (I was already thinking of splitting it myself). Anyway, tbh, I kinda feel like the conjectural names would be better off not being used at all for ''any'' of these pages since it just adds another layer of confusion, and it's actually against policy: while "Winged Galoomba" and "Para-Galoomba" are extrapolated from plain "Galoomba", they're still conjectural, and shouldn't overrule the actual names. So then the pages would be "Winged Goomba (''Super Mario World'')", "Para-Goomba (''Super Mario World'')" and "Para-Goomba (''Mario Clash'')". After all, if we're using logic rather than canon for the names, the ''Mario Clash'' one would be something along the lines of "Sharp Winged Goomba" (like how a [[Spiky Parabuzzy]] is a [[Parabuzzy]] with a spike, but taking the Japanese name into account), and that's getting ''very'' conjectural and harder to defend beyond "but it makes sense". - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 13:10, 8 January 2015 (EST) | ||
::I was wondering why those articles were made with conjectural names, and I agree that they should be changed to Para-Goomba and Winged Goomba (does that require another proposal to override the one I pointed out, or should that go ahead and be fixed to comply with policy?). As far as Winged Goomba goes, though, I don't think actual Paragoombas were ever called that - I believe that's a leftover from when the Winged Goomba information was on that page, so an identifier probably isn't necessary. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 14:29, 8 January 2015 (EST) | ::I was wondering why those articles were made with conjectural names, and I agree that they should be changed to Para-Goomba and Winged Goomba (does that require another proposal to override the one I pointed out, or should that go ahead and be fixed to comply with policy?). As far as Winged Goomba goes, though, I don't think actual Paragoombas were ever called that - I believe that's a leftover from when the Winged Goomba information was on that page, so an identifier probably isn't necessary. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 14:29, 8 January 2015 (EST) | ||
