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==Merge Orbs that share names with pre-existing ''Mario Party'' series items with those items==
==Merge Orbs that share names with pre-existing ''Mario Party'' series items with those items==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|9-0|Merge these orbs with their item counterparts}}


When items were first introduced as a mechanic in the ''[[Mario Party (series)|Mario Party]]'' series, they were just that, items, ranging from classic Mario items such as the [[Mushroom]] to new additions like the [[Skeleton Key]]. Come ''[[Mario Party 5]]'', items were reworked into [[Orb]]s, then known as Capsules, which were basically the same as pre-existing items, except that they came in a small plastic orb (probably to fit with the gacha-like [[capsule machine]]s added in the same game) and could sometimes be thrown onto spaces. Unsurprisingly, a lot of established items returned as Orbs: the Mushroom became the [[Mushroom Orb]], the [[Warp Pipe#Mario Party 4|Warp Pipe]] became the [[Warp Pipe Orb]], and the [[Poison Mushroom#Mario Party series|Cursed Mushroom]] became the [[Cursed Mushroom Orb]]. It must be emphasized that these Orbs are virtually identical in name, appearance, and effect to their ordinary item counterparts, except that they are contained within a plastic ball. The fact that the wiki currently considers these orbs to be ontologically distinct from the regular items they are based on is a little silly to me, and certainly hurts readability and regularly violates [[SMW:Once and only once]], since these Orbs will (understandably) be mentioned on the articles of their non-Orb counterparts as well.
When items were first introduced as a mechanic in the ''[[Mario Party (series)|Mario Party]]'' series, they were just that, items, ranging from classic Mario items such as the [[Mushroom]] to new additions like the [[Skeleton Key]]. Come ''[[Mario Party 5]]'', items were reworked into [[Orb]]s, then known as Capsules, which were basically the same as pre-existing items, except that they came in a small plastic orb (probably to fit with the gacha-like [[capsule machine]]s added in the same game) and could sometimes be thrown onto spaces. Unsurprisingly, a lot of established items returned as Orbs: the Mushroom became the [[Mushroom Orb]], the [[Warp Pipe#Mario Party 4|Warp Pipe]] became the [[Warp Pipe Orb]], and the [[Poison Mushroom#Mario Party series|Cursed Mushroom]] became the [[Cursed Mushroom Orb]]. It must be emphasized that these Orbs are virtually identical in name, appearance, and effect to their ordinary item counterparts, except that they are contained within a plastic ball. The fact that the wiki currently considers these orbs to be ontologically distinct from the regular items they are based on is a little silly to me, and certainly hurts readability and regularly violates [[SMW:Once and only once]], since these Orbs will (understandably) be mentioned on the articles of their non-Orb counterparts as well.
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#{{User|Tails777}} Pretty much a reverse idea from something [[Talk:Super Mushroom#Moving some info|I brought up a while back]]. So yeah, I can agree to this.
#{{User|Tails777}} Pretty much a reverse idea from something [[Talk:Super Mushroom#Moving some info|I brought up a while back]]. So yeah, I can agree to this.
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per "once and only once".
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per "once and only once".
#{{User|EvieMaybe}} per proposal


===Oppose: Don't merge these Orbs===
===Oppose: Don't merge these Orbs===

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