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== Move to Note Block == | == Move to Note Block == | ||
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It's the modern name from these blocks, from ''[[Mario Golf: World Tour]]'', ''[[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS]]'', and ''[[Super Mario Maker]]''. Conversely, the only time they are called "Jump Blocks" is in the manual for ''[[Super Mario World]]''. | It's the modern name from these blocks, from ''[[Mario Golf: World Tour]]'', ''[[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS]]'', and ''[[Super Mario Maker]]''. Conversely, the only time they are called "Jump Blocks" is in the manual for ''[[Super Mario World]]''. | ||
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== Split '''Note Block''' and '''Music Block''' == | == Split '''Note Block''' and '''Music Block''' == | ||
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On the top of the page, there is a suggestion for this page to be split into '''Note Block''' and '''Music Block'''. I believe that we should follow through with this, because they are two seperate objects with different functions. One of the reasons for splitting being that there might be a list of all the Music Block sounds which would not necessarily belong on the original Note Block page. | On the top of the page, there is a suggestion for this page to be split into '''Note Block''' and '''Music Block'''. I believe that we should follow through with this, because they are two seperate objects with different functions. One of the reasons for splitting being that there might be a list of all the Music Block sounds which would not necessarily belong on the original Note Block page. | ||
(EDIT: "Music Block" is referring to the orange/pink Note Block in ''Super Mario Maker'' that is often used in music levels by the community.) | (EDIT: "Music Block" is referring to the orange/pink Note Block in ''Super Mario Maker'' that is often used in music levels by the community.) | ||
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==Split into [[Note Block]], {{fake link|Jump Block (New Super Mario Bros. Wii)}} and {{fake link|Jump Block (Mario & Wario)}}== | ==Split into [[Note Block]], {{fake link|Jump Block (New Super Mario Bros. Wii)}} and {{fake link|Jump Block (Mario & Wario)}}== | ||
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I know these objects have the same name in many instruction booklets / official guides. I also know that the internal name of the Note Blocks remained "Jump Block" in NSMBU. But, in addition to a different design, the ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]'' Jump Blocks do not emit musical notes and have no objects in them. For this reason I propose to separate them. | I know these objects have the same name in many instruction booklets / official guides. I also know that the internal name of the Note Blocks remained "Jump Block" in NSMBU. But, in addition to a different design, the ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]'' Jump Blocks do not emit musical notes and have no objects in them. For this reason I propose to separate them. | ||
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#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} I might agree with possibly doing something about the Jump Block from ''Mario & Wario'' since it's essentially all but a springboard, but I strongly disagree with splitting the ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' Jump Block since it is the same exact object that has been redesigned and not replaced, not just from a demonstrable development standpoint but also in its basic chronological design evolution. 1) Despite Nintendo Power (maybe coincidentally) using term "Note Block" in early issues, it was consistently referred to as a "Jump Block" in the original instruction booklets (including the SNES and Wii releases of ''Super Mario All-Stars'' and the GBA ''Super Mario Advance'' games) as well as later ''Super Mario Advance'' series guides; the fact that it had the note on it was an incidental marker as the jumping characteristic was its purpose and namesake. 2) The ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' appearance comes from a time when the "Note Block" name did not completely overtake the "Jump Block" name officially, so a modern redesign attempt was not out of the question and, as evidenced by its asset reuse in ''New Super Mario Bros. U'', is functionally identical to the original block - admittedly, some ''Mario Party'' games overlap with the time frame that the blocks were standardized back to their more iconic design in the ''Super Mario'' series, but this can be very easily chalked up to development teams not communicating with each other as both versions are never seen together. 3) The blocks don't always reveal power-ups or emit aesthetic notes or musical sounds in every game (''Super Mario World'', for example), so that's a moot point. | #{{User|LinkTheLefty}} I might agree with possibly doing something about the Jump Block from ''Mario & Wario'' since it's essentially all but a springboard, but I strongly disagree with splitting the ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' Jump Block since it is the same exact object that has been redesigned and not replaced, not just from a demonstrable development standpoint but also in its basic chronological design evolution. 1) Despite Nintendo Power (maybe coincidentally) using term "Note Block" in early issues, it was consistently referred to as a "Jump Block" in the original instruction booklets (including the SNES and Wii releases of ''Super Mario All-Stars'' and the GBA ''Super Mario Advance'' games) as well as later ''Super Mario Advance'' series guides; the fact that it had the note on it was an incidental marker as the jumping characteristic was its purpose and namesake. 2) The ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' appearance comes from a time when the "Note Block" name did not completely overtake the "Jump Block" name officially, so a modern redesign attempt was not out of the question and, as evidenced by its asset reuse in ''New Super Mario Bros. U'', is functionally identical to the original block - admittedly, some ''Mario Party'' games overlap with the time frame that the blocks were standardized back to their more iconic design in the ''Super Mario'' series, but this can be very easily chalked up to development teams not communicating with each other as both versions are never seen together. 3) The blocks don't always reveal power-ups or emit aesthetic notes or musical sounds in every game (''Super Mario World'', for example), so that's a moot point. | ||
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By the way, the information on Mario Party 9 and Island Tour should also be moved to the NSMBWii page once this passes. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 20:04, July 10, 2019 (EDT) | By the way, the information on Mario Party 9 and Island Tour should also be moved to the NSMBWii page once this passes. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 20:04, July 10, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:Should have been a multi-option proposal. What are the New Super Mario Bros. Wii's Japanese name? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:14, July 11, 2019 (EDT) | :Should have been a multi-option proposal. What are the New Super Mario Bros. Wii's Japanese name? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 12:14, July 11, 2019 (EDT) | ||
::It's the original name as seen [[Note Block#Names in other languages|here]]. As an aside, there is at least one World-e course with a title that references Note Blocks but, as the ''Super Mario Advance 4'' manual | ::It's the original name as seen [[Note Block#Names in other languages|here]]. As an aside, there is at least one World-e course with a title that references Note Blocks but, as the ''Super Mario Advance 4'' manual instead refers to them as Jump Blocks, it seems to be a descriptor rather than a name in this context and regardless it didn't officially catch on at the time. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 12:45, July 11, 2019 (EDT) | ||
