Editing Talk:Nintendo Land

==Characters?==
Does this game also contain the characters like Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Link, Samus, Mr. Game & Watch and such, does one play as a Mii, or isn't that confirmed at all? {{User:Toad'ShyGuy/sig}}

:Nothing has been fully confirmed, however the minigames which have been made public do not feature any of the characters, only [[Mii]]s. Elements from the series background is what is borrowed, not the actual characters themselves. {{User:JORDAN DEBONO/sig}} 12:15, 24 August 2012 (EDT)

== Chase Mii and Battle Mii ==

I think the 2 Demos shown at E3 2011, Chase Mii (Mario themed) and Battle Mii (Metroid themed) might be the games to the currently unannounced Mario and Metroid games. --[[User:MarioMaster2011|MarioMaster2011]] ([[User talk:MarioMaster2011|talk]]) 23:14, 24 July 2012 (EDT)

:It might be but this is guess work unfortunately. No official sources have claimed this so we cannot add it. However, if you do know of a source proving this, feel free to share it with us. {{User:JORDAN DEBONO/sig}} 12:16, 24 August 2012 (EDT)
::Both of those are indeed gonna be in the game, under the titles Mario Chase and Metroid Blast!! [[User:DK Fan|DK Fan]]

== Release Date ==

IGN have put up a release date for this game. Even though most probably a fake, IGN is an official source ''(kinda)'' so what are your views about this. Here's the link to where this is claimed: [http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/06/05/nintendo-land-gameplay-demo-e3-2012] ''Look at the right of the page where the box art is present.'' {{User:JORDAN DEBONO/sig}} 12:15, 24 August 2012 (EDT)

==Is this everything?==

I'm really surprised that Pokémon and Star Fox aren't in here. Do we have confirmation if this are all the minigames? {{User:Toad'ShyGuy/sig}}

Yes. [[File:KoopaTroopa!.png|35px]] [[User:MegaKoopa|<span style="font-family:Verdana; font-size:18px; color:#302b7a;">MegaKoopa</span>]] [[User talk: MegaKoopa|<span style="font-family:Verdana; font-size:10px; color:#496dd1;">Talk</span>]] 15:39, 14 September 2012 (EDT)

:I meant more, like, if we had, ''where is it confirmed?'' :/ {{User:Toad'ShyGuy/sig}}

::I don't know but i think these are all the minigames, and there's also an image showing the icons representing all the minigames. <span style="border: 2px solid cyan; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 2em; -moz-border-radius-topright: 1em; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 1em; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 2em; background-color: darkblue; padding: 5px;"> [[File:Booemblem.png|30px]]<font face="none">[[User:DohIMissed|<span style="font-family:Goo Puff"><font size="3"><big>{{color|Doh|dodgerblue}}</big></font></span>]][[User talk:DohIMissed|<span style="font-family:Goo Puff"><font size="3">{{color|IMissed|cyan}}</font></span>]]</font>[[File:Booemblem.png|30px]]</span>

[[File:NintendoLandIcons.jpg]]

== Octopus Dance ==

Since we have a fair amount of detail regarding Game & Watch, including [[Octopus]], why don't we go ahead and create the article for Octopus Dance as well. The only other NIWA wiki to create would be Nwiki but we all know how chillaxed they are about making necessary articles. {{User:JORDAN DEBONO/sig}} 05:19, 30 September 2012 (EDT)
:Octopus dance does not qualify for an article since it is not related to the mario version of Octopus instead it is related to the original game & watch version which isn't related to mario. {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}}

== Articles for all atractions ==

Should we create articles for all atractions, including those who aren't Mario-related? I mean, if we have articles for non-Mario locations (such as Smash Bros. stages, like [[Hanenbow]]) why we couldn't heve articles for all atractions?

{{User:Byllant/sig}}

:I would say no. Unlike ''Smash Bros.'', where ''Mario'' characters fight on those stages and face those characters, the rest of the attractions in ''Nintendo Land'' don't interact with the ''Mario'' elements in any way, at least not that I'm aware of. -- [[User:1337star|1337star]] <sup>([[User talk:1337star|Mailbox SP]])</sup> 01:11, 14 November 2012 (EST)

::I think we should have articles for all of the attractions. We can't just leave a game only half-covered.

::{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 00:15, 17 November 2012 (EST)

:::Sorry but I'm in agreement with 1337star. No Mario elements interact with the other attractions. Plus we've got external links for all the other minigames (apart from Metroid Blast) so we haven't left anything amiss. You might then bring up the argument as to why [[Octopus Dance]] was created but then you have to realize that we already have a lot of info about [[Octopus]] and [[Game & Watch]] so we might as well make it. {{User:JORDAN DEBONO/sig}} 00:58, 17 November 2012 (EST)
::::This game falls in line with ''[[Captain Rainbow]]'' so the mario elements should get articles but nothing else will. {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}}

If it is the Octopus that relates to the ''Mario'' series, then tell me why we won't fully cover ''[[Game & Watch Collection 2]]''.

{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 01:01, 17 November 2012 (EST)
:Because it's not related to Mario in that context because no mario characters appear. {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}}

Understood. Then are we going to allow the article [[Octopus Dance]]? Personally I think we should cover all attractions. [[MarioWiki:Coverage#Crossovers|MarioWiki:Coverage]] says that we cover all information in a crossover, ''"However, we can only cover information in the crossover and cannot add additional content from the other previously established franchises."''; that won't be a problem, as we would only cover the attractions.

{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 01:10, 17 November 2012 (EST)
:No we should not cover octopus because it is not related to mario much like how we don't have articles on everything from ''[[Captain Rainbow]]'' nor do we cover anything from the Mario basketball game for the gamecube or the skiing game for the gamecube. {{User|Marshal Dan Troop}}

::YoshiKing make a TPP about this now that more people have entered the argument. {{User:JORDAN DEBONO/sig}} 01:15, 17 November 2012 (EST)

==Create articles for non-Mario attractions==
{{SettledTPP}}

<span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">Moved to {{color-link|MarioWiki:Proposals|grey}}</span>

For the sake of resolving the discussion above, I'm reaching a decision through a TPP. It has been discussed that we shouldn't create articles for the [[Nintendo Land#Minigames|Minigames]] in ''Nintendo Land'' that don't relate to the ''Mario'' series. But our [[MarioWiki:Coverage#Crossovers|coverage policy]] says that we cover ''all'' information in a crossover that mixes ''Mario'' with another series, but it is limited to the information from the crossover and we can't talk about additional info from the other series. We currently cover only four of the twelve minigames, [[Octopus Dance|one of them]] not being directly related to ''Mario''. I see this as illogical as we shouldn't leave a game half covered and rely on other NIWA sites for further info on the uncovered minigames (one of them isn't even covered by a NIWA site). And then we fully cover crossovers like the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]] and the [[Mario & Sonic (series)|''Mario & Sonic'' series]]. As discussed above, we don't fully cover ''[[Captain Rainbow]]'' but the policy says we can, so why not ''Nintendo Land''?

'''Proposer:''' {{User|YoshiKong}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' December 1, 2012 23:59 GMT

===Support===
#{{User|YoshiKong}} Per my arguments above.
#{{User|JORDAN DEBONO}} I agree that the articles should be made, however not as one single page. We don't have a collective name for all the minigames so it won't really make sense. Also the external hyperlinks to the other NIWA wiki articles should still remain.

===Oppose===

===Comments===
Well I'm totally undecided. I like it when we create new articles but then again we have all the links we need to other NIWA wikis. They have the articles so we don't need them ourselves. I need to see some other views before I make a decision. {{User:JORDAN DEBONO/sig}} 02:14, 17 November 2012 (EST)

:I was thinking of also alternatively proposing for a single page which covers all of the minigames, similar to the [[Subspace Army]] article with links to external sites for further info.

:{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 02:44, 17 November 2012 (EST)


I think this should count as a full crossover, like ''SSB'', ''[[Itadaki Street DS]]'' or ''[[Mario Hoops 3-on-3]]'', and so, all the minigames should get pages, including the stuff that's not directly part of the ''Mario''-derived content in the game. However, I don't think a TPP is appropriate for a major coverage decision, so this should be moved to [[MarioWiki:Proposals]] instead. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 12:42, 17 November 2012 (EST)

== Minigame short decriptions ==

Should the descriptions for the minigames be changed to the ones found in the booklet of Nintendo Land. They're as concise as the present ones so they won't look out of place and after all they're official. I can change them if you like. What d'you think ?? {{User:JORDAN DEBONO/sig}} 16:39, 1 December 2012 (EST)

:Maybes long as they are complete and they highlight all the basics about the game, including characters involved and what the aim of the game is. But it should be noted that we currently include info on references, like for example on the ''Octopus Dance'' minigame, first thing we say that it is based on the Game & Watch game Octopus. And on ''Luigi's Ghost Mansion'', we say that it is a reference to the ''Luigi's Mansion'' games. I think such info should be kept on the article. Does the manual have this stuff? 

:{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 19:33, 1 December 2012 (EST)

::No it doesn't go into detail like that. The manual talks about the minigames from a tourist attraction point of view, as if it is a real theme park. Ok then doesn't matter; thanks for replying. {{User:JORDAN DEBONO/sig}} 11:58, 3 December 2012 (EST)
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 ==Characters?==
 Does this game also contain the characters like Mario, Luigi, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Link, Samus, Mr. Game & Watch and such, does one play as a Mii, or isn't that confirmed at all? {{User:Toad'ShyGuy/sig}}
 :Nothing has been fully confirmed, however the minigames which have been made public do not feature any of the characters, only [[Mii]]s. Elements from the series background is what is borrowed, not the actual characters themselves. {{User:JORDAN DEBONO/sig}} 12:15, 24 August 2012 (EDT)
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 I'm really surprised that Pokémon and Star Fox aren't in here. Do we have confirmation if this are all the minigames? {{User:Toad'ShyGuy/sig}}
-Yes. [[File:SPM KoopaTroopa.png|35px]] [[User:MegaKoopa|<span style="font-family:Verdana; font-size:18px; color:#302b7a;">MegaKoopa</span>]] [[User talk: MegaKoopa|<span style="font-family:Verdana; font-size:10px; color:#496dd1;">Talk</span>]] 15:39, 14 September 2012 (EDT)
+Yes. [[File:KoopaTroopa!.png|35px]] [[User:MegaKoopa|<span style="font-family:Verdana; font-size:18px; color:#302b7a;">MegaKoopa</span>]] [[User talk: MegaKoopa|<span style="font-family:Verdana; font-size:10px; color:#496dd1;">Talk</span>]] 15:39, 14 September 2012 (EDT)
 :I meant more, like, if we had, ''where is it confirmed?'' :/ {{User:Toad'ShyGuy/sig}}
-::I don't know but i think these are all the minigames, and there's also an image showing the icons representing all the minigames. <span style="border: 2px solid cyan; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 2em; -moz-border-radius-topright: 1em; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 1em; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 2em; background-color: darkblue; padding: 5px;"> [[File:Booemblem.png|30px]]<font face="none">[[User:DohIMissed|<span style="font-family:Goo Puff"><font size="3"><big>{{color|dodgerblue|Doh}}</big></font></span>]][[User talk:DohIMissed|<span style="font-family:Goo Puff"><font size="3">{{color|cyan|IMissed}}</font></span>]]</font>[[File:Booemblem.png|30px]]</span>
+::I don't know but i think these are all the minigames, and there's also an image showing the icons representing all the minigames. <span style="border: 2px solid cyan; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 2em; -moz-border-radius-topright: 1em; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 1em; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 2em; background-color: darkblue; padding: 5px;"> [[File:Booemblem.png|30px]]<font face="none">[[User:DohIMissed|<span style="font-family:Goo Puff"><font size="3"><big>{{color|Doh|dodgerblue}}</big></font></span>]][[User talk:DohIMissed|<span style="font-family:Goo Puff"><font size="3">{{color|IMissed|cyan}}</font></span>]]</font>[[File:Booemblem.png|30px]]</span>
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 == Octopus Dance ==
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 ==Create articles for non-Mario attractions==
-{{Settled TPP}}
+{{SettledTPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|gray|move to {{color link|grey|MarioWiki:Proposals}}}}
+<span style="color:grey;font-family:Comic Sans MS;font-size:150%">Moved to {{color-link|MarioWiki:Proposals|grey}}</span>
 For the sake of resolving the discussion above, I'm reaching a decision through a TPP. It has been discussed that we shouldn't create articles for the [[Nintendo Land#Minigames|Minigames]] in ''Nintendo Land'' that don't relate to the ''Mario'' series. But our [[MarioWiki:Coverage#Crossovers|coverage policy]] says that we cover ''all'' information in a crossover that mixes ''Mario'' with another series, but it is limited to the information from the crossover and we can't talk about additional info from the other series. We currently cover only four of the twelve minigames, [[Octopus Dance|one of them]] not being directly related to ''Mario''. I see this as illogical as we shouldn't leave a game half covered and rely on other NIWA sites for further info on the uncovered minigames (one of them isn't even covered by a NIWA site). And then we fully cover crossovers like the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]] and the [[Mario & Sonic (series)|''Mario & Sonic'' series]]. As discussed above, we don't fully cover ''[[Captain Rainbow]]'' but the policy says we can, so why not ''Nintendo Land''?
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 ::No it doesn't go into detail like that. The manual talks about the minigames from a tourist attraction point of view, as if it is a real theme park. Ok then doesn't matter; thanks for replying. {{User:JORDAN DEBONO/sig}} 11:58, 3 December 2012 (EST)
-==Create ''List of Nintendo Land staff'' article==
-{{Settled TPP}}
-{{Proposal outcome|passed|4-1|create article}}
-(I'm currently working on it [[User:Mariotime11/drafts|here]].) The reason I am setting up this proposal is because [[Nintendo Land]] is a generic Nintendo game, and not one specific to the ''Mario'' series, and I want to see what people think of this.
-'''Proposer''': {{User|Mariotime11}}<br>
-'''Deadline''': April 9, 2013 23:59 GMT
-===Support===
-#{{User|Mariotime11}} Per my proposal.
-#{{User|Walkazo}} - Staff pages are just extensions of the main article (in fact, they ''used'' to be subpages), so it's not the same as creating completely separate articles for the in-game subjects from a partial-coverage game. We already have a gallery for the page; a staff page is no different.
-#{{User|King Pikante}} Per all.
-#{{User|BabyLuigiOnFire}} Per all
-===Oppose===
-#{{user|NSY}} If we are not doing full coverage of this, then no.
-===Comments===
-Just use {{tem|Talk}}--{{User|BowserJunior}}
-This doesn't warrant a proposal. The Super Smash Bros. series all have staff articles of their own. Besides, why not include Nintendo Land staff anyway? {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}}
-:We fully cover SSB games because the characters interact with each other. They don't in Nintendo Land. {{User:Banon/sig}} 17:50, 31 March 2013 (EDT)
-::I still don't see why not {{User:BabyLuigiOnFire/sig}} 23:09, 2 April 2013 (EDT)
-:::I don't have an opinion about this proposal, I was just giving you the official reason :) {{User:Banon/sig}} 16:26, 4 April 2013 (EDT)
-== Full coverage? ==
-Why doesn't Nintendo Land have full coverage? I feel it's just as much of a crossover as other games like SSB or Mario & Sonic. --{{User:SuperYoshiBros/sig}} 10:16, 13 February 2015 (EST)
-:See [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/31#Reverse decision to make pages for the non-Mario attraction in Nintendo Land|here]].
-:-[[User:Toa 95|Toa 95]] ([[User talk:Toa 95|talk]])
-== Monita article ==
-I feel like someone should write an article about Monita; she is after all, the host of the game and appears in many of its attractions to offer tutorials. If nobody else is willing to do it, let me know; I can do it. --[[User:WigglyWiggler|WigglyWiggler]] ([[User talk:WigglyWiggler|talk]]) 17:50, May 11, 2019 (EDT)
-:[[Talk:Monita]]. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 17:51, May 11, 2019 (EDT)
-::Just read it. Thanks. --[[User:WigglyWiggler|WigglyWiggler]] ([[User talk:WigglyWiggler|talk]]) 19:32, May 11, 2019 (EDT)
-== Single Player Attraction Wiimote stuff ==
-I described what a wiimote player can do in each single player game. If each attraction ever gets its own detailed page, what I put is probably better there, but until then, I think its the best for them to be here.
-- [[Theonlymanalive3]] Feb, 13 2024