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==Talk Page Proposal: DSi and 3DS. Split or Merge==
==Talk Page Proposal: DSi and 3DS. Split or Merge==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{SettledTPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|11-0-0|have each one into its own page}}
As you can see, the 3DS has its own page, while the DSi hasn't. As the name says, both are part of the 3DS series, and none of them is a "minor" update to the series (the DS Lite is), so, for consistency, both should have its own pages, or both should be in this page.<br>
As you can see, the 3DS has its own page, while the DSi hasn't. As the name says, both are part of the 3DS series, and none of them is a "minor" update to the series (the DS Lite is), so, for consistency, both should have its own pages, or both should be in this page.<br>
'''Proposer:''' {{user|Tucayo}}<br>
'''Proposer:''' {{user|Tucayo}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' October 20th. 11:45pm (UCT)
'''Deadline:''' October 20th. 11:45pm (UCT)


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===Have each one into its own page===
===Have each one into its own page===
#{{user|Tucayo}} - Per me
#{{user|Tucayo}} - Per me
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{{User:GamingGal9/sig}}
{{User:GamingGal9/sig}}
:Yes, DSi XL will go in the 3DS page :) --{{User:Tucayo/sig}} 19:59, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, DSi XL will go in the 3DS page :) --{{User:Tucayo/sig}} 19:59, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
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See? The Nintendo 3DS isn't another addition in the DS series --[[User:Internetakias|Internetakias]] 15:36, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
See? The Nintendo 3DS isn't another addition in the DS series --[[User:Internetakias|Internetakias]] 15:36, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
==Game icons==
==Game icons==
{{talk}}
{{multiframe|http://i.imgur.com/x4qpC.png|align=none|size=256}}Should we add game icons from the starting screen to the articles? {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}
{{multiframe|http://i.imgur.com/x4qpC.png|align=none|size=256}}Should we add game icons from the starting screen to the articles? {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}


I'm not sure.  I agree with on the game's pages itself, but on the DS page?  I'm debating....--[[User:Toad85|Toad85]] 07:00, 1 August 2011 (EDT)
I made a proposal on it, [[Mariowiki:Proposals#DS icons|see here]]. {{User:Lakituthequick/sig}} 06:40, 20 August 2011 (EDT)


== Talk Page Proposal:  Removing Nintendo 3DS ==
== Talk Page Proposal:  Removing Nintendo 3DS ==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|12-8|remove}}
I personally think that the 3ds has no place on this page.  It is not a "remake" of the DS, like the Gamecube is not a remake of the N64.  I say to delete this info, or edit it to debunk any connection other than name and backwards compatibility.  Either that, or we should but the successor to every console on it's page.  That means Gamecube on N64 page, N64 on SNES page, Game Boy on Game and Watch page. Obviously that is a bad idea.  So how about we take off the Nintendo 3DS information.  It's not like it's part of the DS series.
I personally think that the 3ds has no place on this page.  It is not a "remake" of the DS, like the Gamecube is not a remake of the N64.  I say to delete this info, or edit it to debunk any connection other than name and backwards compatibility.  Either that, or we should but the successor to every console on it's page.  That means Gamecube on N64 page, N64 on SNES page, Game Boy on Game and Watch page. Obviously that is a bad idea.  So how about we take off the Nintendo 3DS information.  It's not like it's part of the DS series.


'''Proposer''': {{User|Toad85}}<br>
''Proposer'': {{User|Toad85}}
'''Deadline''': August 14, 2011, 23:59 GMT.
 
''Deadline'': August 14, 2011, 23:59 GMT.


===Support===
===Support===
#{{User|Toad85}} Per my own proposal
#{{User|Toad85}} Per my own proposal
#{{User|Goomba's Shoe15}} per proposal
#{{User|ThirdMarioBro}} According to the stock market news, Nintendo 3DS is supposedly a completely new console and gets its own lifespan and everything, so it's pretty much a successor other than a remake.
#{{User|Conanshinichi}} Per All.
#{{User|Smarty54242}} It's a successor because the new games can't be played on a DS.
#{{User|Bowser's luma}} Per ThirdMarioBro and Smarty54242.
#{{User|Walkazo}} - Different generation, different controls, different features, different handhelds. This is already acknowledged by the fact that the 3DS has a separate page, so having a blurb about it here makes little sense and is inconsistent with all the other families of consoles. If we're going by name alone, by that logic, the SNES should be discussed on the NES page, the Wii U on Wii, and both the GBC and GBA on the Game Boy page, which adds up to a lot of redundant repetition. (And in response to come of the comments, merging any of these fundamental consoles would be a serious mistake and should not even be an option.) If someone wants to read about the next generation of console, there are multiple links to its very own page on its predecessor's article, even without a sub-section and {{tem|main}}.
#{{User|Nabber}} - Sure, it's an evolution, but it's one giant step of an evolution. If we oppose this, we may as well move this article into the [[Game Boy]] article.
#{{User|Hypnotoad}} - I thought of some things to say here, but Walkazo covers all of my points, particularly the Wii U -> Wii thing; so per Walkazo.
#{{User|robokoopa}} - per #{{User|Nabber}}
#{{User|Iamthedude}} -per Nabber and Walkazo
#{{User|BoygeyMario}} Per all. There's a MAJOR difference between teh 2.


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#{{user|SWFlash}} Nintendo 3DS is a spin-off from the DS family, like Gamebody Advance is a spinn-off from Gameboy.
#{{User|Superfiremario}} Per SW.
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per above.
#{{User|Supremo78}} Per SWFlash.
#{{user|mario Bros.!}} Per all.
#{{User|M&SG}} - Console spin-offs get to be mentioned on their predecessor articles.
#{{User|Reddragon19k}} First of all, the 3DS is a spin-off to its regular one and second, it is a per all!!
#{{User|Zero777}} Why only 3DS, why not DS Lite or Dsi [XL]?


===Comments===
===Comments===
The 3DS is basically a DS spin-off, just like how the Game Boy Color is a Game Boy spin-off. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 08:15, 1 August 2011 (EDT)
:Is the SNES an NES spin-off?  Or is the Wii U a Wii spin-off?  Just because it has "DS" in the title doesn't necessarially mean it's part of that series.--[[User:Toad85|Toad85]] 09:19, 1 August 2011 (EDT)
Opposers: Why is there no information on the Gameboy Advance or the Gameboy Color in the Gameboy article and no information of the Gameboy Advance in the Gameboy Color article? Lack of information or something else? {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 14:59, 1 August 2011 (EDT)
:The GBA is its own separate line, featuring a completely different appearance from its predecessors, while the 3DS retains the basic design of its predecessors with slight modifications. Now that you mention it, I think that the GBC would do well merged to the Game Boy. Alternatively, we could create an article on the Game Boy line and put everything up to the Micro (starting with the Game Boy) in it. {{User:Mario4Ever/sig}}
But the Gameboy Color can support Gameboy games while it's not the other way around. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 16:49, 1 August 2011 (EDT)
:All successive handhelds to date have been backwards-compatible with their predecessors' software (when the software differs), but the predecessors don't need to be able to play their successors' software to be in the same article, as the 3DS's current placement demonstrates. {{User:Mario4Ever/sig}}
::The 3DS and DS are, in fact, not alike whatsoever bar the name, appearance from the outside, and the fact that they are a game console.  If you look at the inside of the console and the pre-packaged features, you can barely picture it coming from the original DS line.  Besides, the Wii-U looks alot like the Wii, are they the same console in any way other than that?--[[User:Toad85|Toad85]] 07:12, 2 August 2011 (EDT)
:::I'm aware of the pre-packaged features. DSi has an internet browser and a shop containing software but is still mentioned in the DS article. The 3DS has improvements (as is to be expected with successors). The fact that it still uses the dual screens, has DS in its name, and overall retains identical button placement to its predecessors indicates that the 3DS is not entirely separate from the DS line. As for the Wii U, it uses an entirely different controller, so it's a bit more than just modifying things slightly as is done with the 3DS. {{User:Mario4Ever/sig}}
I could see why the [[Game Boy Color]] can be merged into [[Game Boy]] because the only difference is that it is in colour however , 3DS isn't a DS just  3D, there are loads of extra features that make it diferent which include:
*{{Button|3ds|Stick}} Slide Pad
*Wider Top Screen
*AR Cards
*[[Virtual Console]]
*{{Button|3ds|home}} Home Buton
... you get the point {{User:Conanshinichi/sig}}
I think it's pretty set that it's getting removed. {{User:Toad85/sig}}
== Discontinued? ==
I don't think the Nintendo DS Lite has been discontinued. Is there any proof about this? {{User:Akfamilyhome/sig}} 05:30, 31 December 2011 (EST)
== dsi pics in the ds article. ==
Since the dsi has it's own article now, shouldn't we put those pics of the dsi in it's [[Nintendo DSi|own page?]]
{{User:SUPERZ/Sig2}}
== What does DS stand for? ==
Acoording to Nintendo.com, DS can also stand for Dual Screens. The FAQ of the website says:
To our developers, it stands for "Developers' System," since we believe it gives game creators brand new tools which will lead to more innovative games for the world's players.
It can also stand for "Dual Screen."
Perhaps you can mention that in the article?
--[[User:VirtualBoy Girl|VirtualBoy Girl]] ([[User talk:VirtualBoy Girl|talk]]) 23:49, 11 November 2012 (EST)
== Two things ==
Looking at the "Models" section DS Lite, DSi and DSi XL are mentioned, but not the original Ds. Why is that? or the the models section only a list over remakes (should in that case be called "remakes")
I am also doubting the usefulness of the Game Gallery section as it does not list nearly close to all the DS games, wouldn't it be better to rather link to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_DS_games this]
:Regarding the first question, the DS is mentioned in the opening paragraphs of the article, and the beginning of the article also includes a picture. To discuss it under the Models header would be redundant and therefore unnecessary. Regarding the second question, no, it wouldn't be better because as editors of a ''Mario'' encyclopedia, we're concerned with the ''Mario'' and ''Mario''-related games released on consoles. The game gallery depicts all of the ''Mario''-related games released for the DS. {{User:Mario4Ever/sig}} 15:50, 29 April 2013 (EDT)
== Collector's Nintendo DS Lite ==
I'ev found another Mario DS hardware : http://www.mariowiigames.com/images/Nintendo%20DS%20Lite%20Ltd%20Ed%20Red%20Mario%20with%20New%20Super%20Mario%20Bros%20.jpg
:--[[Special:Contributions/78.244.221.34|78.244.221.34]] 07:06, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
== Game Card was removed ==
Out of all DS games, which other ones have a "Game Card was removed" message besides ''[[Mario Kart DS]]'' and ''[[starfywiki:Densetsu no Starfy 4|Densetsu no Starfy 4]]''/''[[starfywiki:The Legendary Starfy|The Legendary Starfy]]''? I've already seen messages like that in both games. {{User:MeerkatMario/sig}} 16:34, 20 July 2015 (EDT)
:Not sure, but I don't know why this would be noteworthy in this article. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 18:14, 20 July 2015 (EDT)

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